Elektron Musical Instruments

I downloaded all three files for OS 1.12b to my Mac. Using Logic and or Digital Performer, I can't get the uzipped .mid file to work. The info gets received by the Machinedrum, but ir reports an error at the end.

I don't know what to do with the .syx files - no program seems able to load them

le 28/03/2003 17:15, jweisbin2 à jweisbin@... a écrit :

> I downloaded all three files for OS 1.12b to my Mac. Using Logic and or
> Digital Performer, I can't get the uzipped .mid file to work. The info gets
> received by the Machinedrum, but ir reports an error at the end.

uh oh

> I don't know what to do with the .syx files - no program seems able to load
> them

;)

If you're on OS9, use ZipIt, (in OS X I don't know) and open the .zip file
with it, then CHANGE the line feed setting at the right of the window and
unzip.

It should work if it's not a problem relative to sysex but a line feed in
the archive that destroy it whil unziping.

Else use a sysex utility

OS 9: ooops should work from your sequencer else try SysEx 452
On OS X:
http://pete.yandell.com/links/index.html
=> sysex librarian works smoooothly
(used at the french importer to update MDs)

When you unzip something on a mac and it doesn't work right away after,
first try always the line feed trick, 99% of the time, it's the source of
the problem :-/

Denis U]

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hey folks,

I just got my MD this week. amazing machine. right now
I am using it to sync up the sequencers in my Evolver
and Nord Modular, making some music without a computer
for the first time in a long time ;)

one question. I have combed the manual and can't seem
to find anything specific on this: is there a way to
disable the MD from sending MIDI note messages while
having it continue to send MIDI clock, stop and start
messages? 

I saw a suggestion for someone using the MD with a
soft-sequencer to use MIDI filtering in the software
or the MIDI interface. but since I am using neither of
these (just a direct serial MIDI-In/MIDI-Thru chain
with the hardware), I was hoping there was a way to
disable this from within the MD itself.

I suppose one way around it would be to not use any
internal sounds on the MD for the 4 base MIDI
channels... but that sets me back to 12 parts only
with the MD and doesn't seem like a fair way to do
it...

am I screwed here? do I need to ask Elektron to
implement this in a future OS update?

any help appreciated.

cheers,
kevin

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le 29/03/2003 22:17, not known à spectralab1@... a écrit :

> one question. I have combed the manual and can't seem
> to find anything specific on this: is there a way to
> disable the MD from sending MIDI note messages while
> having it continue to send MIDI clock, stop and start
> messages? 
> 
> I saw a suggestion for someone using the MD with a
> soft-sequencer to use MIDI filtering in the software
> or the MIDI interface. but since I am using neither of
> these (just a direct serial MIDI-In/MIDI-Thru chain
> with the hardware), I was hoping there was a way to
> disable this from within the MD itself.
> 
> I suppose one way around it would be to not use any
> internal sounds on the MD for the 4 base MIDI
> channels... but that sets me back to 12 parts only
> with the MD and doesn't seem like a fair way to do
> it...
> 
> am I screwed here? do I need to ask Elektron to
> implement this in a future OS update?



Denis U]

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lepetitmartien           M.I.C.                http://www.macmusic.org

Sorry, I hit the send before writing anything :-/

le 29/03/2003 22:17, not known à spectralab1@... a écrit :

> one question. I have combed the manual and can't seem
> to find anything specific on this: is there a way to
> disable the MD from sending MIDI note messages while
> having it continue to send MIDI clock, stop and start
> messages? 

There's a section on that (don't have the manual before my eyes but there is
somethingŠ)

> I saw a suggestion for someone using the MD with a
> soft-sequencer to use MIDI filtering in the software
> or the MIDI interface. but since I am using neither of
> these (just a direct serial MIDI-In/MIDI-Thru chain
> with the hardware), I was hoping there was a way to
> disable this from within the MD itself.

Else you can use a midi filter, but it's expensive if it's a box made
properly.

> I suppose one way around it would be to not use any
> internal sounds on the MD for the 4 base MIDI
> channels... but that sets me back to 12 parts only
> with the MD and doesn't seem like a fair way to do
> it...

The midi filter box would be a better solution than screwing voices for
nothing. There is a DIY solution at http://www.ucapps.de/index.html
follow MIDIfilter/processor in case.

Denis U]

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lepetitmartien           M.I.C.                http://www.macmusic.org

On 3/29/03 3:17 PM, "not known"
<spectralab1@...> wrote:

> one question. I have combed the manual and can't seem
> to find anything specific on this: is there a way to
> disable the MD from sending MIDI note messages while
> having it continue to send MIDI clock, stop and start
> messages? 

not that I know of, but given the fact that you may
control the channels on which it transmits such data,
I simply set the range such that the MD and the
receiving device(s) do not match, either by adjusting
the MD, or the device(s) in question.

> I suppose one way around it would be to not use any
> internal sounds on the MD for the 4 base MIDI
> channels... but that sets me back to 12 parts only
> with the MD and doesn't seem like a fair way to do
> it...

?

> am I screwed here? do I need to ask Elektron to
> implement this in a future OS update?

I guess I do not understand what you are asking,
based on your last paragraph.

The MD uses 4 MIDI channels total for all parts...
if you set it to, say, 1-4, then you may set other
devices to 5-16 and have no problems.

If this has not answered your question, please
ask again with more detail as to what you wish
to achieve...I am not sure I fully understood you.


cheers,
aeon

You might waant to also go into global and the MIDI mapping menu.  It should have corresponding notes to the drum parts.  You should probably set these to --.  It's in the manual about this menu.  Say it says C.  You have to change it to -- and press enter/yes.  Do this to all 16.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, not known <spectralab1@y...> wrote:

> hey folks,
> 
> I just got my MD this week. amazing machine. right now
> I am using it to sync up the sequencers in my Evolver
> and Nord Modular, making some music without a computer
> for the first time in a long time ;)
> 
> one question. I have combed the manual and can't seem
> to find anything specific on this: is there a way to
> disable the MD from sending MIDI note messages while
> having it continue to send MIDI clock, stop and start
> messages? 
> 
> I saw a suggestion for someone using the MD with a
> soft-sequencer to use MIDI filtering in the software
> or the MIDI interface. but since I am using neither of
> these (just a direct serial MIDI-In/MIDI-Thru chain
> with the hardware), I was hoping there was a way to
> disable this from within the MD itself.
> 
> I suppose one way around it would be to not use any
> internal sounds on the MD for the 4 base MIDI
> channels... but that sets me back to 12 parts only
> with the MD and doesn't seem like a fair way to do
> it...
> 
> am I screwed here? do I need to ask Elektron to
> implement this in a future OS update?
> 
> any help appreciated.
> 
> cheers,
> kevin
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

I had the same problem using a the mid-file on vst 5.1 and a mac, but when I lowered the speed of the sequencer to 70 bpm.
It didn't give any erors at all.

OS 1.12b works fine now.

Hope this works for you too.

greetz Jeroen from holland

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  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] can't updtae OS to 1.12b


  le 28/03/2003 17:15, jweisbin2 à jweisbin@... a écrit :

  > I downloaded all three files for OS 1.12b to my Mac. Using Logic and or
  > Digital Performer, I can't get the uzipped .mid file to work. The info gets
  > received by the Machinedrum, but ir reports an error at the end.

  uh oh

  > I don't know what to do with the .syx files - no program seems able to load
  > them

  ;)

  If you're on OS9, use ZipIt, (in OS X I don't know) and open the .zip file
  with it, then CHANGE the line feed setting at the right of the window and
  unzip.

  It should work if it's not a problem relative to sysex but a line feed in
  the archive that destroy it whil unziping.

  Else use a sysex utility

  OS 9: ooops should work from your sequencer else try SysEx 452
  On OS X:
  http://pete.yandell.com/links/index.html
  => sysex librarian works smoooothly
  (used at the french importer to update MDs)

  When you unzip something on a mac and it doesn't work right away after,
  first try always the line feed trick, 99% of the time, it's the source of
  the problem :-/

  Denis U]

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hello
where can i find new soundbanks for the machinedrum ?

Especially, i'm looking for big electro sounds.

Thanks.






>From: "Jeroen de Kruyf" <geronimo@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [elektron] can't updtae OS to 1.12b
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:57:20 +0200
>
>I had the same problem using a the mid-file on vst 5.1 and a mac, but when 
>I lowered the speed of the sequencer to 70 bpm.
>It didn't give any erors at all.
>
>OS 1.12b works fine now.
>
>Hope this works for you too.
>
>greetz Jeroen from holland
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: I've got a LASER, Earthman!
>   To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:35 AM
>   Subject: Re: [elektron] can't updtae OS to 1.12b
>
>
>   le 28/03/2003 17:15, jweisbin2 \ufffd jweisbin@... a \ufffdcrit :
>
>   > I downloaded all three files for OS 1.12b to my Mac. Using Logic and 
>or
>   > Digital Performer, I can't get the uzipped .mid file to work. The info 
>gets
>   > received by the Machinedrum, but ir reports an error at the end.
>
>   uh oh
>
>   > I don't know what to do with the .syx files - no program seems able to 
>load
>   > them
>
>   ;)
>
>   If you're on OS9, use ZipIt, (in OS X I don't know) and open the .zip 
>file
>   with it, then CHANGE the line feed setting at the right of the window 
>and
>   unzip.
>
>   It should work if it's not a problem relative to sysex but a line feed 
>in
>   the archive that destroy it whil unziping.
>
>   Else use a sysex utility
>
>   OS 9: ooops should work from your sequencer else try SysEx 452
>   On OS X:
>   http://pete.yandell.com/links/index.html
>   => sysex librarian works smoooothly
>   (used at the french importer to update MDs)
>
>   When you unzip something on a mac and it doesn't work right away after,
>   first try always the line feed trick, 99% of the time, it's the source 
>of
>   the problem :-/
>
>   Denis U]
>
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I also could not update to 1.l2b via the MIDI file (I used that 
method for the previous 3 or 4 updates with no problem); I had to use 
the SysEx file instead, which worked fine.

  When I tried the MIDI file, using the same method I've used on 
previous versions, as soon as it started playing I got an error.

  Maybe someone should inform Elektorn that the MIDI file is broken :)

>   When I tried the MIDI file, using the same method I've used on
> previous versions, as soon as it started playing I got an error.
>
>   Maybe someone should inform Elektorn that the MIDI file is broken :)

No it works, but the sequencer must be set at slow bpm (I was succesful 
with Logic set at 80 bpm)

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Federico Ciapi 
<federico.ciapi@t...> wrote:
> 
> No it works, but the sequencer must be set at slow bpm (I was 
> succesful with Logic set at 80 bpm)

  For past versions, I simply played it through Windows Media Player 
and it worked.  For this version I got the error.  So clearly, even 
though it works in certain situations, something is wrong compared to 
past versions.

>> No it works, but the sequencer must be set at slow bpm (I was
>> succesful with Logic set at 80 bpm)
>
>   For past versions, I simply played it through Windows Media Player
> and it worked.  For this version I got the error.  So clearly, even
> though it works in certain situations, something is wrong compared to
> past versions.
>

Yes, something must have changed.
I had to use slower bpm, and wasn't able to upgrade by sysex.

How do you send sys ex throught the Windows Media Player?  I would
like to know how to do this with midi too.  How do you set this up?

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mind Mechanic" <machanic@e...>
wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Federico Ciapi 
> <federico.ciapi@t...> wrote:
> > 
> > No it works, but the sequencer must be set at slow bpm (I was 
> > succesful with Logic set at 80 bpm)
> 
>   For past versions, I simply played it through Windows Media Player 
> and it worked.  For this version I got the error.  So clearly, even 
> though it works in certain situations, something is wrong compared to 
> past versions.

After being unable to upgrade using the midi file, I used an OS X sysex 
librarian to send the sysex file, and this worked. Thanks to all on the 
list.

Jim Weisbin
<jim@...>
http://www.savagetranscendental.com

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman" 
<endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:
> How do you send sys ex throught the Windows Media Player?  I would
> like to know how to do this with midi too.  How do you set this up?

  I never did Sys Ex through it; but it supports MIDI natively.  Just 
set up your default MIDI channel in Windows and then open a MIDI file 
in WMP and it plays it out through the channel.  Very simple.  Can't 
do much with it, but it's great for upgrades since I don't own any 
sequencer software.

No software sequencer here too.  Thanks.  I was feeling guilty about
using cracked software for these dumps.  I tried out all different
kinds of software sequencers and haven't figured out how to use them
with my gear.  I'll stick with the hardware for now.  But I still need
a sequencer that records live.  I had an mpc but it's too big for just
sequencing, I don't need the sampler.  Any good small sequencers out
there?

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mind Mechanic" <machanic@e...>
wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman" 
> <endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:
> > How do you send sys ex throught the Windows Media Player?  I would
> > like to know how to do this with midi too.  How do you set this up?
> 
>   I never did Sys Ex through it; but it supports MIDI natively.  Just 
> set up your default MIDI channel in Windows and then open a MIDI file 
> in WMP and it plays it out through the channel.  Very simple.  Can't 
> do much with it, but it's great for upgrades since I don't own any 
> sequencer software.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman" 
<endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:
> No software sequencer here too.  Thanks.  I was feeling guilty about
> using cracked software for these dumps.  I tried out all different
> kinds of software sequencers and haven't figured out how to use them
> with my gear.  I'll stick with the hardware for now.  But I still 
> need a sequencer that records live.  I had an mpc but it's too big 
> for just sequencing, I don't need the sampler.  Any good small 
> sequencers out there?

  Too big?  The sampler is pretty much non-existent... And those pads 
work quite well for controlling the MD :)

  Try it again!  And if you have any one-shot loops that you don't 
want to waste space for in another sampler, load 'em in.  The MPC, 
IMO, is a great sequencer.

Yeterday, for some reason I don\ufffdt know,
my Machinedrum resetted itself completely.

All KITs and were gone.

Anybody had this before?

Flo

Did you have installed the 1.12b ? Because Elektron said that this problem 
was fixed with it

At 18:09 03/04/2003 +0200, you wrote:

>Yeterday, for some reason I don´t know,
>my Machinedrum resetted itself completely.
>
>All KITs and were gone.
>
>Anybody had this before?
>
>Flo
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I just looked:
It shows A 1.12 on startup.
Shit.

It\ufffds a sad thing as you can imagine.


Flo




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Von: onosendai [mailto:onosendai@...]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. April 2003 18:19
An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [elektron] MD total reset


Did you have installed the 1.12b ? Because Elektron said that this problem
was fixed with it

At 18:09 03/04/2003 +0200, you wrote:


>Yeterday, for some reason I don\ufffdt know,
>my Machinedrum resetted itself completely.
>
>All KITs and were gone.
>
>Anybody had this before?
>
>Flo
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Splank!" <splank@z...> wrote:
> 
> It´s a sad thing as you can imagine.
> 

  Yeah it is...

  So, who out there backs their stuff up?

  I, for one, don't; I don't know how.

  What software do I need on a PC to do it, and how do I do it?  Can 
someone write a little tutorial?  I would be VERY appreciative, as 
I'm sure would others...

I know.  Even the two ins and two outs for midi was great.  I kind of 
regret it now, but I have to move from S. Korea to the States in the 
fall.  I have to move all my gear.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mind Mechanic" 
<machanic@e...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman" 
> <endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:
> > No software sequencer here too.  Thanks.  I was feeling guilty 
about
> > using cracked software for these dumps.  I tried out all different
> > kinds of software sequencers and haven't figured out how to use 
them
> > with my gear.  I'll stick with the hardware for now.  But I still 
> > need a sequencer that records live.  I had an mpc but it's too 
big 
> > for just sequencing, I don't need the sampler.  Any good small 
> > sequencers out there?
> 
>   Too big?  The sampler is pretty much non-existent... And those 
pads 

> work quite well for controlling the MD :)
> 
>   Try it again!  And if you have any one-shot loops that you don't 
> want to waste space for in another sampler, load 'em in.  The MPC, 
> IMO, is a great sequencer.

There is a little application called Dumpster.  I got it from the 
korgms2000 group.  You need a .dll file for it.  I don't know which 
one but it says which one when you try to start dumpster without it.  
Then you just jot what file it is, and search in google.com or 
something and download that little file.
It's pretty reliable.  Sometimes you have to keep starting the 
transfer with it, but it has never not worked for me.  I haven't 
tried loading to my MD much however. 

-- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mind Mechanic" <machanic@e...> 
wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Splank!" <splank@z...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > It´s a sad thing as you can imagine.
> > 
> 
>   Yeah it is...
> 
>   So, who out there backs their stuff up?
> 
>   I, for one, don't; I don't know how.
> 
>   What software do I need on a PC to do it, and how do I do it?  
Can 
> someone write a little tutorial?  I would be VERY appreciative, as 
> I'm sure would others...