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Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-05 by Simon

Hi guys,

I just received my MD and i'm wondering if  they
sent a brand new Sps-1 or a refurbished.

There are a few small scratches under the screen
and in the back. It really looks like it was
used. There was some dust/dirt  also.
The second knob is really hard to turn
compared to the other knobs, but that might be
"normal".

But wait it gets worst.
I was following the quick start guide
and after just a minute of playing,
all lights stayed on after pressing
any buttons. Also, when i
turned knobs, it changed the value all by
itself to the higher value, clockwise.
OS is 1.12b

Thank you Elektron for wasting
my time.  

Simon

Re: Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-05 by Mind Mechanic

Why don't you talk to Elektron rather than try to smear them on the 
list?  Perhaps, as a last ditch effort, if they DON'T help you, you 
can feel free to post on here... But if you "just received" it then 
I'm certain you haven't tried to get support yet.

  Next time *THINK* before you type!



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> 
wrote:
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> Hi guys,
> 
> I just received my MD and i'm wondering if  they
> sent a brand new Sps-1 or a refurbished.
> 
> There are a few small scratches under the screen
> and in the back. It really looks like it was
> used. There was some dust/dirt  also.
> The second knob is really hard to turn
> compared to the other knobs, but that might be
> "normal".
> 
> But wait it gets worst.
> I was following the quick start guide
> and after just a minute of playing,
> all lights stayed on after pressing
> any buttons. Also, when i
> turned knobs, it changed the value all by
> itself to the higher value, clockwise.
> OS is 1.12b
> 
> Thank you Elektron for wasting
> my time.  
> 
> Simon

Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-05 by Chris Thomas

Yo check the screen its probably just the plastic. I was hella pissed  
when I got mine cuz it looked like it was scratched with a brillo pad.  
Nonetheless, the plastic was just on there so well that i couldn't even  
tell.

-Chris
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On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 04:33  PM, Simon wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I just received my MD and i'm wondering if  they
> sent a brand new Sps-1 or a refurbished.
>
> There are a few small scratches under the screen
> and in the back. It really looks like it was
> used. There was some dust/dirt  also.
> The second knob is really hard to turn
> compared to the other knobs, but that might be
> "normal".
>
> But wait it gets worst.
> I was following the quick start guide
> and after just a minute of playing,
> all lights stayed on after pressing
> any buttons. Also, when i
> turned knobs, it changed the value all by
> itself to the higher value, clockwise.
> OS is 1.12b
>
> Thank you Elektron for wasting
> my time.
>
> Simon
>
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Re: [elektron] Re: Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-05 by simon leclerc

I sent an email to Elektron first.
I also sent an eMail to this group cause Elektron
is closed at this moment and i thought that someone might
have an answer for the OS problem.
I recall that some people had the same problem
or a similar "almost DOD" when they got
their MD. 

It's fun that you decide to join in now, but
where were you when i asked a few
easy questions that never got any answers ?

Next time just shut up if don't have anything
intelligent to say, smart ass.





on 05/05/03 5:20 PM, Mind Mechanic at machanic@... wrote:


 Why don't you talk to Elektron rather than try to smear them on the
list?  Perhaps, as a last ditch effort, if they DON'T help you, you
can feel free to post on here... But if you "just received" it then
I'm certain you haven't tried to get support yet.

 Next time *THINK* before you type!



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I just received my MD and i'm wondering if  they
> sent a brand new Sps-1 or a refurbished.
> 
> There are a few small scratches under the screen
> and in the back. It really looks like it was
> used. There was some dust/dirt  also.
> The second knob is really hard to turn
> compared to the other knobs, but that might be
> "normal".
> 
> But wait it gets worst.
> I was following the quick start guide
> and after just a minute of playing,
> all lights stayed on after pressing
> any buttons. Also, when i
> turned knobs, it changed the value all by
> itself to the higher value, clockwise.
> OS is 1.12b
> 
> Thank you Elektron for wasting
> my time.  
> 
> Simon


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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-05 by simon leclerc

Please guys, gimme some credits.
Of course it's not the plastic, i removed it
and the screen is fine. It's below the
screen,  some small scratches.

I appreciate the effort Chris ;)

on 05/05/03 6:04 PM, Chris Thomas at crap@... wrote:

Yo check the screen its probably just the plastic. I was hella pissed
when I got mine cuz it looked like it was scratched with a brillo pad.
Nonetheless, the plastic was just on there so well that i couldn't even
tell.

-Chris

On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 04:33  PM, Simon wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I just received my MD and i'm wondering if  they
> sent a brand new Sps-1 or a refurbished.
>
> There are a few small scratches under the screen
> and in the back. It really looks like it was
> used. There was some dust/dirt  also.
> The second knob is really hard to turn
> compared to the other knobs, but that might be
> "normal".
>
> But wait it gets worst.
> I was following the quick start guide
> and after just a minute of playing,
> all lights stayed on after pressing
> any buttons. Also, when i
> turned knobs, it changed the value all by
> itself to the higher value, clockwise.
> OS is 1.12b
>
> Thank you Elektron for wasting
> my time.
>
> Simon
>
>
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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-05 by Janne G:son Berg

On Mon May 05 2003, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@...> wrote:

> Please guys, gimme some credits.
> Of course it's not the plastic, i removed it
> and the screen is fine. It's below the
> screen,  some small scratches.

Hmm... it _could_ be due to the fix for the separate outputs, if
Elektron does that themselves nowadays? The screen might accidentially
have become scratched and noone noticed. They have probably fixed that
in the PCB layout nowadays though.

I went to Elektron with my MD last friday, and got the separate
outputs fixed. The first time ever my MD was opened (this resulted in
some wear and tear on the screws)! Some cutting of the PCB was needed,
and then some soldering. No. Don't ask me what was actually done, I do
not know enough of electronics to tell you.

About the MD suddenly lightning all LEDs, no idea. I take that nothing
happened when you switched it on again? 

/Janne

Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-05 by aeon

On 5/5/03 5:28 PM, "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@...> wrote:

> I went to Elektron with my MD last friday, and got the separate
> outputs fixed. The first time ever my MD was opened (this resulted in
> some wear and tear on the screws)! Some cutting of the PCB was needed,
> and then some soldering. No. Don't ask me what was actually done, I do
> not know enough of electronics to tell you.

what range of serial numbers require this fix?


wondering,
aeon

Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by simon leclerc

Thank you for your help Janne, appreciated.

"About the MD suddenly lightning all LEDs, no idea. I take that nothing
happened when you switched it on again?"

Yes it was working when i swiched it on again.
After a minute or so, the same problem occured.
You can hear a high Freq buzz.
Now it's back in the box.

I heard of this problem a few times on this forum
(an other almost  DOA stories)
but i thought it was definitely considered a *fixed*
problem. I guess not.
Do they at least verify the units before then ship it
across the world ?

Thanks again,

Simon



on 05/05/03 6:28 PM, Janne G:son Berg at d3berg@... wrote:

On Mon May 05 2003, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@...> wrote:

> Please guys, gimme some credits.
> Of course it's not the plastic, i removed it
> and the screen is fine. It's below the
> screen,  some small scratches.

Hmm... it _could_ be due to the fix for the separate outputs, if
Elektron does that themselves nowadays? The screen might accidentially
have become scratched and noone noticed. They have probably fixed that
in the PCB layout nowadays though.

I went to Elektron with my MD last friday, and got the separate
outputs fixed. The first time ever my MD was opened (this resulted in
some wear and tear on the screws)! Some cutting of the PCB was needed,
and then some soldering. No. Don't ask me what was actually done, I do
not know enough of electronics to tell you.

About the MD suddenly lightning all LEDs, no idea. I take that nothing
happened when you switched it on again?

/Janne

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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by digitalwank@mac.com

On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 08:03  PM, simon leclerc wrote:

> Yes it was working when i swiched it on again.
> After a minute or so, the same problem occured.
> You can hear a high Freq buzz.
> Now it's back in the box.

Have you tried doing a reset?  Hold down the function key when you 
power it on, and then navigate from there.  You'll lose any 
patterns/kits but that doesn't sound like a problem for you.

Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by digitalwank@mac.com

Has anyone else had to do this?  How long did it take to get it back?  
I've been using the separate outputs to trigger my Simmons SDS-800 so I 
haven't been concerned with the sound quality, but I recently wanted to 
route the BD out and it became an issue.
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On 5/5/03 5:28 PM, "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@...> wrote:

> I went to Elektron with my MD last friday, and got the separate
> outputs fixed. The first time ever my MD was opened (this resulted in
> some wear and tear on the screws)! Some cutting of the PCB was needed,
> and then some soldering. No. Don't ask me what was actually done, I do
> not know enough of electronics to tell you.

Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by simon leclerc

Thanks man,

But i'm going to wait to hear what
TechSupport have to say about it
b4 for doing a reset. Althought
i probably won't care for
the original patterns/kits, i
heard it's a good way (faster) to start
making your own kits.

I'm still in shock so i'm going wait b4
making any sudden move ;)

Simon

on 05/05/03 8:47 PM, digitalwank@... at digitalwank@... wrote:

On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 08:03  PM, simon leclerc wrote:

> Yes it was working when i swiched it on again.
> After a minute or so, the same problem occured.
> You can hear a high Freq buzz.
> Now it's back in the box.

Have you tried doing a reset?  Hold down the function key when you
power it on, and then navigate from there.  You'll lose any
patterns/kits but that doesn't sound like a problem for you.


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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by I've got a LASER, Earthman!

le 06/05/2003 00:28, Janne G:son Berg à d3berg@... a écrit :

> About the MD suddenly lightning all LEDs, no idea. I take that nothing
> happened when you switched it on again?

OS bug, mine did this until I did a soft reset etc.
the M4 also get "stuck", and nothing worksŠ
After that it was also starting up only once on 2 tries (one ok, one not,
very regularly)

It should not happen in 1.12bŠ Mine is still _not_ in 1.12b :-/

Denis U]

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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by simon leclerc

If i do a reset, will i loose the
original patterns/kits or just mine ?
Of course i didnt have time to built my own
but kits/patterns but
b4 doing a reset, i want to know what
i will lose by doind so.

Thanks



on 05/05/03 9:20 PM, I've got a LASER, Earthman! at
lepetitmartien@... wrote:

le 06/05/2003 00:28, Janne G:son Berg à d3berg@... a écrit :

> About the MD suddenly lightning all LEDs, no idea. I take that nothing
> happened when you switched it on again?

OS bug, mine did this until I did a soft reset etc.
the M4 also get "stuck", and nothing worksŠ
After that it was also starting up only once on 2 tries (one ok, one not,
very regularly)

It should not happen in 1.12bŠ Mine is still _not_ in 1.12b :-/

Denis U]

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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by digitalwank@mac.com

I'm not sure if you'll lose the original kits/patterns but I do know  
they're not worth worrying about.  They're not terrible but they're not  
really interesting either, just the run of the mill presets.  If I were  
you I'd try the reset and see what happens.  I still have the original  
patterns and kits, if you really want to hear them I'll see about  
uploading them somewhere :)
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On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 10:07  PM, simon leclerc wrote:

> If i do a reset, will i loose the
> original patterns/kits or just mine ?
> Of course i didnt have time to built my own
> but kits/patterns but
> b4 doing a reset, i want to know what
> i will lose by doind so.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> on 05/05/03 9:20 PM, I've got a LASER, Earthman! at
> lepetitmartien@... wrote:
>
> le 06/05/2003 00:28, Janne G:son Berg à d3berg@dtek.chalmers.se a  
> écrit :
>
>> About the MD suddenly lightning all LEDs, no idea. I take that nothing
>> happened when you switched it on again?
>
> OS bug, mine did this until I did a soft reset etc.
> the M4 also get "stuck", and nothing works…
> After that it was also starting up only once on 2 tries (one ok, one  
> not,
> very regularly)
>
> It should not happen in 1.12b… Mine is still _not_ in 1.12b :-/
>
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MD-->SDS-->MD

2003-05-06 by oldmanfury

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, digitalwank@m... wrote:
> I've been using the separate outputs to trigger my Simmons SDS-800

I thought about doing this (even posted to this group awhile back 
about it), but found a 'better' solution.  $55 for a midi to SDS 
trigger converter.  Now I can use the MD to trigger my SDS-8 and SDS-
400, which I route through the A/B inputs and process with the MD.  
It is quite the setup. 

http://www.dinsync.com/

-gerald

Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by Brandon Daniel

On Mon, 5 May 2003 digitalwank@... wrote:

>
> I'm not sure if you'll lose the original kits/patterns but I do know
> they're not worth worrying about.

True, and if they DO get wiped you'll find the procedure to initialize
them back in your manual ;0)

-Brandon
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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by simon leclerc

Thanks  digitalwank + Brandon for the Reset Info.
I'm still going to wait a bit for Elektron respond
cause i might return the unit now.

I have to talk to them about the Knobs as well.
I know there were upgraded at some point because
they were to hard to turn. Well, mine are ridicously
hard to turn and it's also pretty hard to press on it
to get faster increments.  If this is the second
version, did you have to use a wrench to turn
the knobs on the first version ?

I just don't understand, i'm sorry.



on 05/05/03 10:29 PM, Brandon Daniel at bdu@... wrote:

On Mon, 5 May 2003 digitalwank@... wrote:

>
> I'm not sure if you'll lose the original kits/patterns but I do know
> they're not worth worrying about.

True, and if they DO get wiped you'll find the procedure to initialize
them back in your manual ;0)

-Brandon
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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by teenwoolph@aol.com

When i got my first sid, the thing crashed every time i turned it on.  
They'll sort it out fot you.


In a message dated 5/5/03 4:35:22 PM, Simonvolt@... writes:

>Hi guys,
>
>
>
>I just received my MD and i'm wondering if  they
>
>sent a brand new Sps-1 or a refurbished.
>
>
>
>There are a few small scratches under the screen
>
>and in the back. It really looks like it was
>
>used. There was some dust/dirt  also.
>
>The second knob is really hard to turn
>
>compared to the other knobs, but that might be
>
>"normal".
>
>
>
>But wait it gets worst.
>
>I was following the quick start guide
>
>and after just a minute of playing,
>
>all lights stayed on after pressing
>
>any buttons. Also, when i
>
>turned knobs, it changed the value all by
>
>itself to the higher value, clockwise.
>
>OS is 1.12b
>
>
>
>Thank you Elektron for wasting
>
>my time.  
>
>
>
>Simon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by simon leclerc

I expected a better experience, that's all.

on 06/05/03 12:55 AM, teenwoolph@... at teenwoolph@... wrote:

When i got my first sid, the thing crashed every time i turned it on.
They'll sort it out fot you.


In a message dated 5/5/03 4:35:22 PM, Simonvolt@... writes:

>Hi guys,
>
>
>
>I just received my MD and i'm wondering if  they
>
>sent a brand new Sps-1 or a refurbished.
>
>
>
>There are a few small scratches under the screen
>
>and in the back. It really looks like it was
>
>used. There was some dust/dirt  also.
>
>The second knob is really hard to turn
>
>compared to the other knobs, but that might be
>
>"normal".
>
>
>
>But wait it gets worst.
>
>I was following the quick start guide
>
>and after just a minute of playing,
>
>all lights stayed on after pressing
>
>any buttons. Also, when i
>
>turned knobs, it changed the value all by
>
>itself to the higher value, clockwise.
>
>OS is 1.12b
>
>
>
>Thank you Elektron for wasting
>
>my time.  
>
>
>
>Simon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by Federico Ciapi

Martedì, 6 Mag 2003, alle 04:07 Europe/Rome, simon leclerc ha scritto:

> If i do a reset, will i loose the
> original patterns/kits or just mine ?


With a "soft reset" you won't loose anything.

Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by simon leclerc

Thanks Federico 

on 06/05/03 7:01 AM, Federico Ciapi at federico.ciapi@tin.it wrote:


Martedì, 6 Mag 2003, alle 04:07 Europe/Rome, simon leclerc ha scritto:

> If i do a reset, will i loose the
> original patterns/kits or just mine ?


With a "soft reset" you won't loose anything.


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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-06 by simon leclerc

Hey guys,

I apologize for the way i handle
the MD adventure so far. I have to admit
that i'm not a very stable human being.
At least i'm honest.
So...

I  just did a soft reset.
After a few minutes, same problem.
So i did a factory reset, same problem.

It's hard cause i was kind of finally starting to
enjoy the MD. I had time to try parameters lock
and FX. The Reverb seems good/efficient and
the delay looks promising. But that's all
i was able to test. The UI seems great indeed.

I guess i will have to reinstall  the OS.
I'll wait for tech support first.

Thanks to everyone who generously tried
to help me,

Simon



on 05/05/03 9:20 PM, I've got a LASER, Earthman! at
lepetitmartien@... wrote:

le 06/05/2003 00:28, Janne G:son Berg à d3berg@... a écrit :

> About the MD suddenly lightning all LEDs, no idea. I take that nothing
> happened when you switched it on again?

OS bug, mine did this until I did a soft reset etc.
the M4 also get "stuck", and nothing worksŠ
After that it was also starting up only once on 2 tries (one ok, one not,
very regularly)

It should not happen in 1.12bŠ Mine is still _not_ in 1.12b :-/

Denis U]

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Re: [elektron] Just received my MD, IS THIS A JOKE ?

2003-05-08 by Janne G:son Berg

On Mon May 05 2003, digitalwank@... <digitalwank@...> wrote:

> Has anyone else had to do this?  How long did it take to get it back?  
> I've been using the separate outputs to trigger my Simmons SDS-800 so I 
> haven't been concerned with the sound quality, but I recently wanted to 
> route the BD out and it became an issue.

The actual modification takes about 30 minutes with soldering and
such. How long does it take for shipping it to Elektron and back? A
week or so?

/Janne

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