Elektron Musical Instruments

hello user list!


i'm using the machinedrum with fruityloops studio 4.1 (yes, shoot me... ;)

i've set up a midi out track in fruity to trigger patterns on the md, not 
single drum hits.

when i set the md's sync source to external and set the master sync out in 
fruity, the md isn't really in the same bpm. i guess this happens b/c a pc 
is a bit unprecise when running such apps and doesn't have the exact bpm, 
the md is more accurate.

anyways, the song has 120 bpm in fruity, and when i run it, the md's bpm get 
updated with every beat, balancing between 128 and 115 bpm, that goes up and 
down but never really hits 120 bpm. you can imagine that the beat doesn't 
fit to well from time to time then...

i also tried to set the md's sync to internal and to 120 bpm and just 
trigger the drum pattern every 16 counts, but that is also too unprecise, 
sometimes the bd sounds like if hit twice at a time then.

i know that fruityloops isn't cubase, isn't reason, isn't any of these 
higher level killer music making apps, but i use it since years and it seems 
best for me (the studio edition even more).

so, can anybody help me?

greetings from austria,
gert


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Try setting the MD as the clocking device.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "sid -" <sledgemoor@h...> wrote:
> hello user list!
> 
> 
> i'm using the machinedrum with fruityloops studio 4.1 (yes, shoot
me... ;)
> 
> i've set up a midi out track in fruity to trigger patterns on the
md, not 
> single drum hits.
> 
> when i set the md's sync source to external and set the master sync
out in 
> fruity, the md isn't really in the same bpm. i guess this happens
b/c a pc 
> is a bit unprecise when running such apps and doesn't have the exact
bpm, 
> the md is more accurate.
> 
> anyways, the song has 120 bpm in fruity, and when i run it, the md's
bpm get 
> updated with every beat, balancing between 128 and 115 bpm, that
goes up and 
> down but never really hits 120 bpm. you can imagine that the beat
doesn't 
> fit to well from time to time then...
> 
> i also tried to set the md's sync to internal and to 120 bpm and just 
> trigger the drum pattern every 16 counts, but that is also too
unprecise, 
> sometimes the bd sounds like if hit twice at a time then.
> 
> i know that fruityloops isn't cubase, isn't reason, isn't any of these 
> higher level killer music making apps, but i use it since years and
it seems 
> best for me (the studio edition even more).
> 
> so, can anybody help me?
> 
> greetings from austria,
> gert
> 
> 
> \/\/\/\/     album out now -->
http://www.unsigned-bands.com/zerozillion/    

>   \/\/\/\/
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Die aktuellsten Computer News gibts auf MSN! http://www.msn.at/computer

le 23/05/2003 08:00, sid - à sledgemoor@... a écrit :

> hello user list!

I'm not a list, I'm just a number! ;)

> i'm using the machinedrum with fruityloops studio 4.1 (yes, shoot me... ;)

Vultures are circling alreadyŠ

> when i set the md's sync source to external and set the master sync out in
> fruity, the md isn't really in the same bpm. i guess this happens b/c a pc
> is a bit unprecise when running such apps and doesn't have the exact bpm,
> the md is more accurate.

Internal clock of MD is much more precise, definetly.
Remember that any slock coming from the computer will encounter latency
causes internally (not all softs are equal) and in the MIDI management (and
you can't do much against it, well, not much)

> anyways, the song has 120 bpm in fruity, and when i run it, the md's bpm get
> updated with every beat, balancing between 128 and 115 bpm, that goes up and
> down but never really hits 120 bpm. you can imagine that the beat doesn't
> fit to well from time to time then...
> 
> i also tried to set the md's sync to internal and to 120 bpm and just
> trigger the drum pattern every 16 counts, but that is also too unprecise,
> sometimes the bd sounds like if hit twice at a time then.
> 
> i know that fruityloops isn't cubase, isn't reason, isn't any of these
> higher level killer music making apps, but i use it since years and it seems
> best for me (the studio edition even more).

Timing and Cubase, interesting matterŠ ;)

Timing accurate is called Atari :D

One of the few things you can do save use the MD as the source of clocking
for everything is working on the MIDI set.

What is your MIDI interface? What's plugged on it ? do you have a lot of
things running in MIDI around your setup ?
Maybe MIDI timing can be bettered a littleŠ

> so, can anybody help me?

no ;)

> greetings from austria,

Bonjour de Paris :D

Denis U]

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