le 10/06/2003 00:07, deeplfo à deeplfo@... a écrit :
> real tube outputs,
Say Marketing.
It's just an overdrive with a 12AX7, nothing to jump and scream there.
It is _not_ a real audio path in class A with discrete circuits everywhere.
> ribbon controller
THAT is cool
But I'm still wondering upon the demo in video you can see on Sonicstate.
The guys was moving like mad on his ribbon controler but I couldn't relate
it to anything in the so polished demo we were hearing. (fake on a ribbon
not in the OS already or I'm deaf or...)
> and a host of other features typical of the Electribe units.
Physical modeling. Korg is _good_ at that (just sold my Z1, boohooooooo :-/
If you take Roland with his sample based boxes, everything is so squached
into ROMs that it sound the same. No problem to marry sound together, but no
personnality either.
> So, for the money it seems that the MX would be more
> versatile, not so much in sound design , but more so in the everyday
> use department.
The MX is more "complete" if you are looking for some current "dance"
(anything with bass, lead, drums). MD can only partly compete in this area.
But the MD has spice in unknown territories :D
>Anyone would care to comment on the everday usage of
> the MD within their setup?
Sequencing notepad
Electronic noise module
For drums I use something else ;)
(but I'm a spoiled weirdo)
le 10/06/2003 00:58, Raj à rajah_patel@... a écrit :
> there is an analog synth as well
Say Virtual Analogue. :P
it is _not_ the same ;)
le 10/06/2003 01:13, Matt Picone à matman@... a écrit :
> "Tube driver stage" is about as relevant to quality of sound as a decal
> on the box would be. Well, no because it can actually worsen things.
> It's a gimmick. It won't sound any better than a cheap solid state
> pedal.
gimme my old overdrive boy! :D
> The design of the circuit is everything, and I can assure you, its core
> engine, even pumped through a 65¢ tube, won't sound nearly as *alive* as
> the all-digital machine drum.
In this case, the 65 ¢ is not the problem, but the tranformers before and
after These are the problems. (and a good transformer has a cost).
For the ones here who want the real thing, try metasonix. This guy knows a
thing or two on tubes.
http://www.metasonix.com
Electribes are physical modeling based
MD is PM and Samples. Both are digital throughout. The point of the 12AX7 is
to give it an edge (fat, coloration, overdrive AND NOISE)(noise can be a
good thing) once the digital is muted into analogue.
They follow the trend of tube here and there, even in your washing machine.
Just a matter of a MD setting trends, and an electribe following others.
> Korg have basically no chance of competing with a company like Elektron
> when it comes to quality.
Given the record of Elektron these last monthhmmm
I'd say Elektron is trying to be innovative but they have quality control
problems. Korg is very efficient factory wise, but as a big company must not
too much innovate (what was their last real synth? Prophecy? Z1?)
Electribes are in a groove box market set for all-in-one boxes.
Elektron maked unique instruments. But not all-in-one instruments by
definition. It's take one thing, add everything possible to make it the best
and voilà.
After what you do with the limitations of the boxes is up to your skill and
imagination. And the graal of originality is not necessarily in the marketed
fomated stuff or the performer oriented one, but in the player and what
eventually he will pour into the audio path beside his brain.
Denis U] writing tooooo much ;)
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