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Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-09 by Gert van Santen

steril707 wrote:
> Hello Guys..
> Did anybody found out a good way how to do string sounds on the MD?
> 
> i found some advice from nils odegaard on this in this forum, but
> its quite cryptic...

Why would anyone want to make string sounds on the MD??

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-09 by steril707

because its possible?

only posts that help please, not discussions on which gear should be 
used for what...


thank you..





> > Hello Guys..
> > Did anybody found out a good way how to do string sounds on the 
MD?
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> > i found some advice from nils odegaard on this in this forum, but
> > its quite cryptic...
> 
> Why would anyone want to make string sounds on the MD??
> 
> Gert
> www.waveworld.tv

Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-09 by W. Brent Latta

I made some strange string-type sounds using the EFM hi-hat...

-b


On Wednesday, Jul 9, 2003, at 04:45 US/Pacific, steril707 wrote:

> because its possible?
>
> only posts that help please, not discussions on which gear should be
> used for what...
>
>
> thank you..
>
>
>
>
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> > > Hello Guys..
> > > Did anybody found out a good way how to do string sounds on the
> MD?
> > >
> > > i found some advice from nils odegaard on this in this forum, but
> > > its quite cryptic...
> >
> > Why would anyone want to make string sounds on the MD??
> >
> > Gert
> > www.waveworld.tv
>
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Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-09 by lecz2003

Strings like this!
Check this out : get a impulse , send it to an external output such 
as C , connect the output directly into an inputmachine , give both , 
pulse and inputmachine delay (short 1 till 20 will work) now you got 
a phioscal modelled string sound , based on the karlpluss strong 
algohritm, good luck ! Cheerz LecZ
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Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-09 by steril707

i already tried using the gnd-sn a lot, but i always end up with 
kind of "bell"-type fm sounds, or some weird "rocket scientist" 
elektro tones...

please check out the Sarpsborg Tune on the elektron Website..that 
track was made by nils odegaard..
It amazing how those strings sound, and i would really like to 
recreate them.

a long time ago he stated in this forum, that the efm set is the key 
to this, but when i use it, i just get belltype fm sounds, but not 
string like sounds.

any other ideas?

greetz,
Steril

Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-09 by Janne G:son Berg

On Wed Jul 09 2003, steril707 <steril707@...> wrote:

> a long time ago he stated in this forum, that the efm set is the key 
> to this, but when i use it, i just get belltype fm sounds, but not 
> string like sounds.
> 
> any other ideas?

Use the lfo:s for adding more string like envelopes. Go for the
reverse lfos:s, apply them to filter width and such. Use the eq to
emulate the resonant frequencies of the violin body.

/Janne

P.S.
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg/sounds/99musik/99-md4-mp3-demo.mp3 
Adventures with the MD in the territory of houe music
D.S.

Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-09 by steril707

i already tried that alot off course..

nobody there who made some decent strings on the MD with a detailed 
roadmap to success?

like 

"EFM-HH; Decay 128; Pitch 98; Pan 89 etc......."


?????


greetz
Steril





--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg" 
<d3berg@d...> wrote:
> On Wed Jul 09 2003, steril707 <steril707@h...> wrote:
> 
> > a long time ago he stated in this forum, that the efm set is the 
key 
> > to this, but when i use it, i just get belltype fm sounds, but 
not 
> > string like sounds.
> > 
> > any other ideas?
> 
> Use the lfo:s for adding more string like envelopes. Go for the
> reverse lfos:s, apply them to filter width and such. Use the eq to
> emulate the resonant frequencies of the violin body.
> 
> /Janne
> 
> P.S.
> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg/sounds/99musik/99-md4-mp3-
demo.mp3 
> Adventures with the MD in the territory of houe music
> D.S.

Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-10 by endlessnessisticman

I make alot of synth sounds with the sampler machines.  I forget the 
3 letter name for it.  Just turn up the retriger.  Adjust pitch for a 
kind of filter effect, maybe phasing.  Use trigger time for note 
pitch.  Add a little start.  Adjust decay to your liking.  I remember 
using bass drum.  I think the higher sounding drum samples may be 
more string like.  Delay does not sound so good.

You may want to try to use the multi trigger possibility to make more 
strings.  Copy the same lead type sound and have one trigger maybe 
two for a more chord sound.  Adjust pitch.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, W. Brent Latta <wbl@c...> 
wrote:
> I made some strange string-type sounds using the EFM hi-hat...
> 
> -b
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, Jul 9, 2003, at 04:45 US/Pacific, steril707 wrote:
> 
> > because its possible?
> >
> > only posts that help please, not discussions on which gear should 
be
> > used for what...
> >
> >
> > thank you..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > Hello Guys..
> > > > Did anybody found out a good way how to do string sounds on 
the
> > MD?
> > > >
> > > > i found some advice from nils odegaard on this in this forum, 
but
> > > > its quite cryptic...
> > >
> > > Why would anyone want to make string sounds on the MD??
> > >
> > > Gert
> > > www.waveworld.tv
> >
> >
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Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-13 by Janne G:son Berg

On Wed Jul 09 2003, steril707 <steril707@...> wrote:
> i already tried that alot off course..
> 
> nobody there who made some decent strings on the MD with a detailed 
> roadmap to success?
> 
> like 
> 
> "EFM-HH; Decay 128; Pitch 98; Pan 89 etc......."

Ok. http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg/sounds/stringme.mp3 is my
first attempt at creating strings with the md. Some ploingy sound at
the start of the string sound, but you won't hear that in a full mix.

EFM-HH as a violin type sound
Pitch: 70
Decay: 96
Trem: 101
Tfrq: 64
Mod: 96
Mfrg: 96
Mdec: 127
Fb: 19 (very important parameter, vary this to get more life from the sound)

Cut the bass with the filter (Fltf: 64) and the highest treble as well
(Fltw: 71).

Dist: 64
Rev: 127 (with suitable reverb settings)

LFO-page:
Param: Fltw
Shp2: Inverted ramp
Updte: Trig
Speed: 34
Depth: 54
Shmix: 127

Parameters not mentioned should be at their original settings for the
EFM-HH machine. 

I hope this can be helpful when it comes to creating you own string sounds.

/Janne

P.S.
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg/sounds/downersbeat.mp3
Some weird hiphop-like beats made with the md
D.S.

Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-14 by Joe

> Ok. http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg/sounds/stringme.mp3 is my
> first attempt at creating strings with the md. Some ploingy sound at
> the start of the string sound, but you won't hear that in a
> full mix.

Great job with that track!  I like it when people create MD-only
tracks that make me happy I'm spending so much time writing with just
the MD :-)

As for your violin sound...I used a similar setup to create this:
http://www.cs.kent.edu/~jmelnyk/songs/MDonly.mp3 

The main differences between our setups are:
- LFO's; I combined both ramps to get a slow attack
- Mod/tremolo values; these were both at their presets
- AMD/AMF; I used these to get a bit more depth out of the sound

Other than that, they're pretty similar settings.

I'm very anxious to try your values and combine them with my
values.... I'm sure I'll get something interesting; knowing this
machine, that is.

Joe.

Re: [elektron] String sounds on the MD

2003-07-15 by Sr. Minimo

Hey Joe

Your track is very touching, it really moved me in a
day when I needed some sunshine.
thanks
flavio

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