Elektron Musical Instruments

Ok, before I sell off all my non-essential belongings to be able to 
afford a MD, I have a few questions.

1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The 
Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a pain 
to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show using 
pattern edit.

2) while preforming in edit mode does the MD autosave the new 
patterns?

3) is there a PDF of the actual manual that I can look over before 
making such an expensive decision.


Thanks for all the help here guys, especialy those who answered my 
previous questions and helped me out, and or are trying to.

In case your wondering what Im going to sell off to afford this, none 
of it is musical, but here is a preliminary list.  NeoGeo, 
Playstation2, Cisco 1720 router maxed out on ram and flash with 1enet 
wic, canary fiber-optic hub, and whatever else I pull out of the 
closet that is taking up space.


Bryan

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 07:46  AM, ask wrote:

> 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The
> Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a pain
> to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show using
> pattern edit.

I believe so, but I've never used it to sequence any other gear.

> 2) while preforming in edit mode does the MD autosave the new
> patterns?

Yes.  But kits are never autosaved.

> 3) is there a PDF of the actual manual that I can look over before
> making such an expensive decision.

There's a copy on this page:

http://www.machinedrum.com/mdsupport.php

> In case your wondering what Im going to sell off to afford this, none
> of it is musical, but here is a preliminary list.  NeoGeo,
> Playstation2, Cisco 1720 router maxed out on ram and flash with 1enet
> wic, canary fiber-optic hub, and whatever else I pull out of the
> closet that is taking up space.

With the right circuit bends that Cisco could probably make some wicked 
sounds! :)

hth,
Corey

Thanks, that helps out a bit.

And I dont think you would want to be moding this cisco, they sell 
for 600USD on ebay and that is without the extras I have in it, the 
weird flash card was 250USD and the ram module another 150USD, and 
the 1enet wic was around 300USD.


Bryan



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Corey Appleby 
<digitalwank@m...> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 07:46  AM, ask wrote:
> 
> > 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The
> > Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a 
pain
> > to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show 
using
> > pattern edit.
> 
> I believe so, but I've never used it to sequence any other gear.
> 
> > 2) while preforming in edit mode does the MD autosave the new
> > patterns?
> 
> Yes.  But kits are never autosaved.
> 
> > 3) is there a PDF of the actual manual that I can look over before
> > making such an expensive decision.
> 
> There's a copy on this page:
> 
> http://www.machinedrum.com/mdsupport.php
> 
> > In case your wondering what Im going to sell off to afford this, 
none
> > of it is musical, but here is a preliminary list.  NeoGeo,
> > Playstation2, Cisco 1720 router maxed out on ram and flash with 
1enet
> > wic, canary fiber-optic hub, and whatever else I pull out of the
> > closet that is taking up space.
> 
> With the right circuit bends that Cisco could probably make some 
wicked 

> sounds! :)
> 
> hth,
> Corey

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "ask" <iceberg@t...> wrote:
> 
> 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The 
> Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a 
pain 
> to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show 
using 
> pattern edit.

Yes, midi is always send out (depending on the midi settings).
It's a very clever system because you can also send program changes 
wich will only happen once untill another is encountered. This way 
your connected gear won't reset the sound parameters every loop due 
to the program change.

Grtz Ronald.

Thanks, that is the closer, I just need to fish together the moeny 
and I'll be placing my order, hopefuly within the next 2 months.  
It's hard waiting though, anyone need to buy a kidney?


Bryan



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald" <info@r...> wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "ask" <iceberg@t...> wrote:
> > 
> > 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The 
> > Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a 
> pain 
> > to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show 
> using 
> > pattern edit.
> 
> Yes, midi is always send out (depending on the midi settings).
> It's a very clever system because you can also send program changes 
> wich will only happen once untill another is encountered. This way 
> your connected gear won't reset the sound parameters every loop due 
> to the program change.
> 
> Grtz Ronald.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "ask" <iceberg@t...> wrote:
> Ok, before I sell off all my non-essential belongings to be able to 
> afford a MD, I have a few questions.
> 
> 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The 
> Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a
> pain 
> to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show using 
> pattern edit.

yes, it sends MIDI data in pattern mode. which is what I almost always
use, even when sequencing other gear. (it makes the machine just a bit
more "live" to me.)

> 2) while preforming in edit mode does the MD autosave the new 
> patterns?

I don't know about "auto" save... see, if you are editing a pattern,
then you're in record mode. so all changes made during that mode are
saved.

what it *does* do that's nice is if you are editing sounds of a given
kit, it will save them between a restart. so you can edit a kit, turn
the machine off then turn it back on and continue editing without
having to save anything (because maybe you're not completely happy
with a sound yet). but as soon as you load another kit (or pattern),
the edited non-saved kit setting will be gone.

I hope you figure out a way to get it; it's a terrific machine :-)
Joe.