Elektron Musical Instruments

I can't understand how the Elektron mailinglist has become the 
Machinedrum mailinglist.

Anyone here own a SidStation? Anyone here like the sounds it makes?

Where are all the SID lovers?!

I'm just in the middle of buying one! from a fellow
list member, no less. I'll comment more once it's in
my hands ;-)

--- Col Dee <coldee@...> wrote: 
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I can't understand how the Elektron mailinglist has
become the 
Machinedrum mailinglist.

Anyone here own a SidStation? Anyone here like the
sounds it makes?

Where are all the SID lovers?!


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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Col Dee" <coldee@m...> wrote:
> I can't understand how the Elektron mailinglist has become the 
> Machinedrum mailinglist.

It's a better machine :-)

> Anyone here own a SidStation? Anyone here like the sounds it makes?
> 
> Where are all the SID lovers?!

I love the SID!  It's a fantastic machine that makes noises you can't
help but fall in love with.  But honestly, amazing though it is I
think that the MD is a far greater achievement on Elektron's part. 
And since there's more room to explore in the MD than in the SID, I
think people just have more to talk about.  Not only that, but there's
a lot of "does it do *this*....please tell me before I drop $1100 on
it" type of questions related to the MD.

Either way, I'm sure the MD posts will begin to dwindle soon, in favor
of MonoMachine-related posts!

Joe.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Col Dee" <coldee@m...> wrote:
> I can't understand how the Elektron mailinglist has become the 
> Machinedrum mailinglist.
> 
> Anyone here own a SidStation? Anyone here like the sounds it makes?
> 
> Where are all the SID lovers?!

We are here...just quiet.  I personaly own a SidStation but not a 
MD.  I have never really gotten into the drum machine craze...I still 
use standard synths and samplers to make my noizes and sequence all 
my drumlines on my computer.  Maybe if I had the $ to spend I might 
never touch my computer drum sequencer software again but the MD (or 
any drum machine at all for that fact) is $ I just dont have :P

I am still waiting for someone to come out with a good visual editer 
for the SidStation.  I know its not that hard to edit on the unit 
itself but for me its hard to keep track of what is going on.  I need 
most (preferably all) of my controlls displayed at once so I can see 
how things are fitting together and whatnot...I am really bad at 
programing when I have to remember what every settin is in the patch 
I am editing...sure it sounds stupid but its true.

Ahhh the Mono-Machine...yet another machine to drool over with no 
$...Really I just need to breakdown and sell off my computer and get 
a real synth with a little more versatility...I own a Quasimidi Raven 
Max, an ESI-4000 turbo, and a SidStation...not the best combination 
if you want to make anything other than 80's dance music :P

-Pas

On Mon Jul 28 2003, Col Dee <coldee@...> wrote:

> I can't understand how the Elektron mailinglist has become the 
> Machinedrum mailinglist.

Since noone talks about the sidtation anymore. 

> Anyone here own a SidStation? Anyone here like the sounds it makes?

Not any more. I sold mine. Love the sounds, but I didn't use it and
thought that it was better to let someone who was going to use it buy
it. I have almost abanbdoned midi, only using cv/gate stuff nowadays
on machines with internal sequencers. The MD stays though, it's the
most inspiring piece of gear that I've gotten in four years.

> Where are all the SID lovers?!

http://remix.kwed.org/ :)

Seriously, about once a month a mail like this drops in. "Why isn't
there any talk about the SidStation anymore?". The reason for no
Sid-talk? Noone talks about the Sid. Start talking, and other people
will follow!

/Janne, now where is that MonoMachine?

I was so impressed with my MD I decided to buy (after a month of deliberation and 
intense financial juggling) the SIDstation.  
I can understand if people aren't into this synth as it has such a distinct rasping 
(Marmite) quality to it. It is more of a "bull in a china shop" compared to the MD which 
is a cross between Mr. Miyagi and The Terminator.  but since It arrived yesterday  the 
sounds have so far been nothing but inspiring. 
I am slowly going through the manual at the moment and am really interested in the 
possibilities of the Wavetable but until then.... one little question......

I seem to be having latency issues even when the SID is plugged directly into a midi 
keyboard. Is this part of the SID's "charm" or can it be rectified? I get the impression 
that alot of people sample the output and rather than playing it live.
thanks
ofthicktum



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@d...> wrote:

> On Mon Jul 28 2003, Col Dee <coldee@m...> wrote:
> 
> > I can't understand how the Elektron mailinglist has become the 
> > Machinedrum mailinglist.
> 
> Since noone talks about the sidtation anymore. 
> 
> > Anyone here own a SidStation? Anyone here like the sounds it makes?
> 
> Not any more. I sold mine. Love the sounds, but I didn't use it and
> thought that it was better to let someone who was going to use it buy
> it. I have almost abanbdoned midi, only using cv/gate stuff nowadays
> on machines with internal sequencers. The MD stays though, it's the
> most inspiring piece of gear that I've gotten in four years.
> 
> > Where are all the SID lovers?!
> 
> http://remix.kwed.org/ :)
> 
> Seriously, about once a month a mail like this drops in. "Why isn't
> there any talk about the SidStation anymore?". The reason for no
> Sid-talk? Noone talks about the Sid. Start talking, and other people
> will follow!
> 
> /Janne, now where is that MonoMachine?

> I seem to be having latency issues even when the SID is plugged 
> directly into a midi
> keyboard. Is this part of the SID's "charm" or can it be rectified? I 
> get the impression
> that alot of people sample the output and rather than playing it live.

It is part of the sid charm, but can be rectified :-)
The manual explains how to get rid of latency quite well.
If you're going to use a sequence, that will be easy: check the 
system->sync menu, make sure that source is ExtCl, speed 100hz and cut 
2, then add a negative delay of -20ms in the sequencer. Your sid will 
be synced.

If you want to use it live, then you can try to set hcut to 0 and use 
the "gate" option in the envelope.

The manual will clarify this better than me, look for sync and envelope.

I wouldn't sample the sid, you'd loose its analogue unpredictable 
character

> I was so impressed with my MD I decided to buy (after a month of 
deliberation and intense financial juggling) the SIDstation.  
> I can understand if people aren't into this synth as it has such a 
distinct rasping (Marmite) quality to it. It is more of a "bull in a 
china shop" compared to the MD which is a cross between Mr. Miyagi 
and The Terminator.  but since It arrived yesterday the sounds have 
so far been nothing but inspiring. 

If I had a sampler I'd go nuts with the SS (SidStation).

The other night I broke my own record, by recording about ten seconds 
of raw audio from the SS and then spent 4 or 5 hours taking little 
bits from it and making whole new sounds out of them in SoundForge. 
It sounds sad, but it's a functional exercise because it leaves me 
with a library of archived sounds to call upon!

I think it's testament to the unique and inspirational sound of the 
SidStation. I love the fact it is never quiet, it never stops, and 
with some lucky settings, you can leave it and the sound keeps 
evolving on its own for quite a long time.

I really consider the SS more of a "noise box", a generator of 
abstract and unorganised sounds, than a synthesiser per se. I've 
never used another machine that you could get so many unusual sounds 
out of from just ten seconds of improvised audio!

Mind you, I downloaded some mp3s of the Moog Voyager (done by a user, 
not the Moog site) and did the same thing, albeit with fewer 
worthwhile results...

yepp... i noticed people stop talking about the sid since the md was 
out. i own no md..so this group was not so interesting for me 
anymore. however i own the sid since the early days ( hehe... i 
remember that i had to write a personal email to electron , where i 
had to write things about myself and why i want the sid - they only 
sold it that way ) and i still love the sidstation. but i don´t 
really use it much in my normal music. i am more intoo deephouse and 
laidback stuff at the moment. but sidstation will stay in my house :)
i also get me some new synth..like the fs1r and the evolver - when 
you want to read something about the ss you should check out the 
early postings in this group... much stuff there. i also made some 
patches at the files area - i remember i uploaded a full soundbank 
with just freaky noise and drones - but removed it cuz nobody cares 
about it :/ anyway... sidstation4life :) phono


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "technoweeniepas" 
<heitert@h...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Col Dee" <coldee@m...> 
wrote:
> > I can't understand how the Elektron mailinglist has become the 
> > Machinedrum mailinglist.
> > 
> > Anyone here own a SidStation? Anyone here like the sounds it 
makes?
> > 
> > Where are all the SID lovers?!
> 
> We are here...just quiet.  I personaly own a SidStation but not a 
> MD.  I have never really gotten into the drum machine craze...I 
still 
> use standard synths and samplers to make my noizes and sequence all 
> my drumlines on my computer.  Maybe if I had the $ to spend I might 
> never touch my computer drum sequencer software again but the MD 
(or 
> any drum machine at all for that fact) is $ I just dont have :P
> 
> I am still waiting for someone to come out with a good visual 
editer 
> for the SidStation.  I know its not that hard to edit on the unit 
> itself but for me its hard to keep track of what is going on.  I 
need 
> most (preferably all) of my controlls displayed at once so I can 
see 
> how things are fitting together and whatnot...I am really bad at 
> programing when I have to remember what every settin is in the 
patch 
> I am editing...sure it sounds stupid but its true.
> 
> Ahhh the Mono-Machine...yet another machine to drool over with no 
> $...Really I just need to breakdown and sell off my computer and 
get 
> a real synth with a little more versatility...I own a Quasimidi 
Raven 

> Max, an ESI-4000 turbo, and a SidStation...not the best combination 
> if you want to make anything other than 80's dance music :P
> 
> -Pas