Elektron Musical Instruments

We've been writing a lot of trance/dance/house type tracks lately for 
our upcoming shows (to encourage more dancing!).  I'm getting a bit 
tired of the old 4 on the floor with the "takatsss takatss takatss" of 
the open and closed hi hat pattern with the snare or clap on 2 and 4.  
Are there any other simple and effective dance beats out there?  
Everything I try, while cool to, seems to complex to be "great" in the 
minds of the masses...


"In the name of the Fader, the Synth and the Holy Groove."
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W. Brent Latta - wbl@...
Official Zero Crossing Website - http://www.zero-crossing.com
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Try some lfo on the decay of the BD.  Put some delayed claps on # 2 5
9 and 13.

Use a four bar loop.  Make thee 1st and 3rd similar and the 2nd and
4th similar.  Make the 4th bar more complex.  Have that snare on 2 and
4 but in the fourth bar have a snare with lower volume on #9.  More HH
on the 4th too. 

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, W. Brent Latta <wbl@c...> wrote:

> We've been writing a lot of trance/dance/house type tracks lately for 
> our upcoming shows (to encourage more dancing!).  I'm getting a bit 
> tired of the old 4 on the floor with the "takatsss takatss takatss" of 
> the open and closed hi hat pattern with the snare or clap on 2 and 4.  
> Are there any other simple and effective dance beats out there?  
> Everything I try, while cool to, seems to complex to be "great" in the 
> minds of the masses...
> 
> 
> "In the name of the Fader, the Synth and the Holy Groove."
> ________________________________________________
> W. Brent Latta - wbl@z...
> Official Zero Crossing Website - http://www.zero-crossing.com
> ________________________________________________
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > Are there any other simple and effective dance beats out there?  
> > Everything I try, while cool to, seems to complex to be "great" 
in the 
> > minds of the masses...

I'm suprised to see this question from a MD user.
It's such an inspiring machine...........

What i've been doing lately for the more accesable beats is 
experimenting a lot with toms. Make them a bit softer, longer and 
lower. Try different interactions between them, then you can move the 
other hits around them (kick, snare , hihat)
You'll be suprised how easy it is to make interesting beats with 
sounds very easy but are not the average 4 on the floor.

GRtz. Ronald.

I can post a few examples if interested.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, W. Brent Latta <wbl@c...> 
wrote:
> We've been writing a lot of trance/dance/house type tracks lately 
> for our upcoming shows (to encourage more dancing!).  I'm getting a 
> bit tired of the old 4 on the floor with the "takatsss takatss 
> takatss" of the open and closed hi hat pattern with the snare or 
> clap on 2 and 4.  Are there any other simple and effective dance 
> beats out there?  

  There are tons of different breakbeat patterns out there.  A simple 
2-step beat would work just fine, and it sounds funky and gets people 
going... Try it out! :)

  I have a book that you might want to check out.  It's called "Drum 
Machine Rhythm Dictionary", and it's by Sandy Feldstein.  Lots of 
good starter patterns in there.

>   There are tons of different breakbeat patterns out there.  A simple
> 2-step beat would work just fine, and it sounds funky and gets people
> going... Try it out! :)

Agree!
Stop that 4/4 BD boring thing and start making breakbeat!
(I also love house music, I'm just joking)

You might want to listen to the track I've talked about in a previous 
post, that has a good MD break.
It's on http://www.acme.dj/tunes.html (ok I won't bother you anymore 
with this)

>   I have a book that you might want to check out.  It's called "Drum
> Machine Rhythm Dictionary", and it's by Sandy Feldstein.  Lots of
> good starter patterns in there.

Other hint: learn some drums.
That will help much with drum creativity and make your drum patterns 
more "real".
And be creative, try new things! That's easy to do with a MD... that 
little beast just asks us to :-)

Don't misunderstand me, all.  I DO make my own beats with the MD and 
they are unique and creative.  Believe it or not, I sometimes feel that 
to get people moving your music must be a bit more accessible.  My 
musical world is big enough for both accessible and not-so-accessible 
music. :)

That said, thanks for the pointers.  I'll give them a try.  Also...can 
someone explain what 2-step is?  I have heard it for years, but I 
couldn't define it if I tried...

-b

On Friday, Aug 8, 2003, at 09:07 US/Pacific, Federico Ciapi wrote:

> >   There are tons of different breakbeat patterns out there.  A simple
> > 2-step beat would work just fine, and it sounds funky and gets people
> > going... Try it out! :)
>
> Agree!
> Stop that 4/4 BD boring thing and start making breakbeat!
> (I also love house music, I'm just joking)
>
> You might want to listen to the track I've talked about in a previous
> post, that has a good MD break.
> It's on http://www.acme.dj/tunes.html (ok I won't bother you anymore
> with this)
>
> >   I have a book that you might want to check out.  It's called "Drum
> > Machine Rhythm Dictionary", and it's by Sandy Feldstein.  Lots of
> > good starter patterns in there.
>
> Other hint: learn some drums.
> That will help much with drum creativity and make your drum patterns
> more "real".
> And be creative, try new things! That's easy to do with a MD... that
> little beast just asks us to :-)
>
>
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>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
"In the name of the Fader, the Synth and the Holy Groove."
________________________________________________
W. Brent Latta - wbl@...
Official Zero Crossing Website - http://www.zero-crossing.com
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, W. Brent Latta <wbl@c...> 
wrote:
> That said, thanks for the pointers.  I'll give them a try.  
> Also...can someone explain what 2-step is?  I have heard it for 
> years, but I couldn't define it if I tried...

  Start with this article:

  http://www.spinwarp.com/modules.php?
op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=90

(watch the wrap)

  Those are some good starter patterns to build on... Just make sure 
that you have a nice crisp snare.

Thanks!


On Saturday, Aug 9, 2003, at 10:38 US/Pacific, Mind Mechanic wrote:

> op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=90
>
"In the name of the Fader, the Synth and the Holy Groove."
________________________________________________
W. Brent Latta - wbl@...
Official Zero Crossing Website - http://www.zero-crossing.com
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