Elektron Musical Instruments

have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a patch when 
you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them both at 
the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in bed 
before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and audition 
patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely improve 
the ergonomics of this piece for the better.  Who here would like to 
see this?

... and maybe get rid of that terrble bug that sometimes totally 
erases all of my patches for no reason.

I would love this.  In a huge, huge way.

Daniel?  Is this possible?  You all seem to love to make UI just 
loverly.  ;-]

On Jan 25, 2004, at 6:06 PM, bachypham wrote:

> have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a patch when
> you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them both at
> the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in bed
> before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and audition
> patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely improve
> the ergonomics of this piece for the better.  Who here would like to
> see this?
>
> ... and maybe get rid of that terrble bug that sometimes totally
> erases all of my patches for no reason.
>
>
>
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That would be amazing.
Actuly i thought about it just the other day as i was in my bed 
after a night of serious sidstation programing :-)

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "bachypham" <bachypham@y...> 
wrote:
> have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a patch 
when 
> you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them both at 
> the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in bed 
> before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and 
audition 
> patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely 
improve 
> the ergonomics of this piece for the better.  Who here would like 
to 

> see this?
> 
> ... and maybe get rid of that terrble bug that sometimes totally 
> erases all of my patches for no reason.

Oooh - yes please!!!

Can I vote twice???

Dave

on 26/01/2004 17:12, bachypham at bachypham@... wrote:

> Yes! Yes! we need as many people as possible to voice their support.
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, damon <damon@m...> wrote:
>> > I would love this.  In a huge, huge way.
> 
>> > On Jan 25, 2004, at 6:06 PM, bachypham wrote:
>> > 
>>> > > have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a patch
> when
>>> > > you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them both
> at
>>> > > the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in bed
>>> > > before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and
> audition
>>> > > patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely
> improve
>>> > > the ergonomics of this piece for the better.  Who here would
> like to
>>> > > see this?



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Once more Yes vote.  I asked Elektron about how to do "free running"
patches once and they said there was no way.  This idea makes perfect
sense, as long as the hardware can detect multiple simultaneous key
presses (it may not be able to do that).

 - Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: bachypham [mailto:bachypham@...] 
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:12 PM
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] One final Sidstation request... please

Yes! Yes! we need as many people as possible to voice their support.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, damon <damon@m...> wrote:
> I would love this.  In a huge, huge way.
> 
> Daniel?  Is this possible?  You all seem to love to make UI just 
> loverly.  ;-]
> 
> On Jan 25, 2004, at 6:06 PM, bachypham wrote:
> 
> > have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a patch 
when
> > you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them both 
at
> > the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in bed
> > before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and 
audition
> > patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely 
improve
> > the ergonomics of this piece for the better.  Who here would 
like to
> > see this?
> >
> > ... and maybe get rid of that terrble bug that sometimes totally
> > erases all of my patches for no reason.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elektron-users/
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> >


 

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HaHa ! I vote for it tooooo !

( but to be serious - i don´t think there will be any update for 
sidstation in next time. This type of discussion is coming up from 
time to time now but electron seems to totally focus on their other 
products now. It would be nice when some third party people could 
tweak the station )

-phonphob






--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Dave <dave@e...> wrote:
> Oooh - yes please!!!
> 
> Can I vote twice???
> 
> Dave
> 
> on 26/01/2004 17:12, bachypham at bachypham@y... wrote:
> 
> > Yes! Yes! we need as many people as possible to voice their 
support.
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, damon <damon@m...> wrote:
> >> > I would love this.  In a huge, huge way.
> > 
> >> > On Jan 25, 2004, at 6:06 PM, bachypham wrote:
> >> > 
> >>> > > have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a 
patch
> > when
> >>> > > you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them 
both
> > at
> >>> > > the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in 
bed

> >>> > > before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and
> > audition
> >>> > > patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely
> > improve
> >>> > > the ergonomics of this piece for the better.  Who here would
> > like to
> >>> > > see this?
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Come on, Daniel -- prove this guy wrong.  Without the loyal legions of SIDstation users there wouldn't *be* an Elektron or an MD or a MnM today.

 - Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: phonophobie [mailto:sidstation@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 7:05 AM
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] One final Sidstation request... please

HaHa ! I vote for it tooooo !

( but to be serious - i don´t think there will be any update for 
sidstation in next time. This type of discussion is coming up from 
time to time now but electron seems to totally focus on their other 
products now. It would be nice when some third party people could 
tweak the station )

-phonphob






--- In elektron-users@...m, Dave <dave@e...> wrote:
> Oooh - yes please!!!
> 
> Can I vote twice???
> 
> Dave
> 
> on 26/01/2004 17:12, bachypham at bachypham@y... wrote:
> 
> > Yes! Yes! we need as many people as possible to voice their 
support.
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, damon <damon@m...> wrote:
> >> > I would love this.  In a huge, huge way.
> > 
> >> > On Jan 25, 2004, at 6:06 PM, bachypham wrote:
> >> > 
> >>> > > have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a 
patch
> > when
> >>> > > you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them 
both
> > at
> >>> > > the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in 
bed
> >>> > > before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and
> > audition
> >>> > > patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely
> > improve
> >>> > > the ergonomics of this piece for the better.  Who here would
> > like to
> >>> > > see this?
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


 


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I would love that functionality added to the sid. It would enable my next 
album "creating loops while i poops." No, seriously though, I think this is 
one of the few things that could improve the sidstation.

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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "bedpan cakewalk" 
<bedpan_cakewalk@h...> wrote:
> I would love that functionality added to the sid. It would enable 
my next 
> album "creating loops while i poops." 

Hehe,
with that name i think it will be a in top 10 charts ;) 
Someone should maybee midifice Britney Spears and connect it to the 
sidstation.... 

Just a thought about OS Updates requests; Maybee we all should write 
electron personally. I don´t think they are always reading in yahoo 
groups. And writing them an email garantee us an answer. I know i did 
so and they are writing back soon. Come on, let´s spam their maibox ;)

cheers
-phob phob

On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 12:05:15PM -0000, phonophobie wrote:
> It would be nice when some third party people could tweak the station

will there ever be a service manual?  schematics?  source code?

my sid was stolen last year, but I plan on getting another one soon and
would like to be able to keep it going indefinitely...

-- 
  Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@...
  "someday the industry will have throbbing frontal lobes and will be able
  to write provably correct software.  also, I want a pony." -- Zach Brown

Elektron has good support facilities in the US and the UK.  They also 
have reserves on hand for high quality SID chips, something I believe 
they've got the monopoly on (if they could find more, I'm sure they'd 
sell more SidStations).

Source code I'd bet they'd never release.  Tons of very usable IP that 
I'm sure made it in one form or another into the Monomachine.  The 
amount of work it'd take to deal with customers who fried their own Sid 
messing with the source hugely outweighs the benefit of releasing the 
source (which is none, except to perhaps 10 or 15 Sid owners, which is 
a gracious estimate.

On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Aaron J. Grier wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 12:05:15PM -0000, phonophobie wrote:
>> It would be nice when some third party people could tweak the station
>
> will there ever be a service manual?  schematics?  source code?
>
> my sid was stolen last year, but I plan on getting another one soon and
> would like to be able to keep it going indefinitely...
>
> -- 
>   Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | 
> agrier@...
>   "someday the industry will have throbbing frontal lobes and will be 
> able
>   to write provably correct software.  also, I want a pony." -- Zach 
> Brown
>
>
>
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "bachypham" <bachypham@y...> 
wrote:
> have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a patch when 
> you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them both at 
> the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in bed 
> before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and 
audition 
> patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely improve 
> the ergonomics of this piece for the better. 

Unfortunately the key scanning hardware doesn't allow more than one 
key to be read at a time.

Also, updating the SID-OS is nothing that could be done in an 
afternoon, and should be considered only if we'd get some major 
improvements. First I'd need to get into my old heavily optimated 8-
bit source code, do the changes, and make it pretty likely that I 
don't introduce any new bugs. That's more the common rule though, 
especially if I'd dig into the inner depths. 

Then when a new OS is released we'd get a hell with people running 
into problems with the upgrades. It seems as the SYSEX support in the 
MIDI drivers have detoriated over the years, we can see that with 
more people running into problems upgrading their Machinedrums over 
time. With the Machinedrum you always keep the latest successfully 
updated OS in memory, but the SidStation doesn't have the memory for 
this, so if you fail you'd be left with a dead unit and curse those 
damn Elektrons while paying the postage to and from Sweden. Sure, 
there is also the "emergency upgrade mode" that should be activated 
if the upgrade fails, but still the SYSEX upgrade of the SidStation 
is a delicate process that better not fail.

What I'm saying is that we'd better have a very good reason for 
getting everyone to upgrade. 

Daniel

hi daniel,
this sounds complicated to me. i wish it would be more fun to do some 
nice changes on the os. however i think it should be no problem to 
find good reasons to update the os. i have read and written a few 
suggestions here along with others. but it would not make me happy 
when my sidstation or elektron loses mind.
cheers ;)
phono  




--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_elektron" 
<daniel@e...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "bachypham" <bachypham@y...> 
> wrote:
> > have a function that triggers a root midi note to play a patch 
when 
> > you press the # and * keys at the same time- pressing them both 
at 
> > the same time again can turn it off.  That way I can lay in bed 
> > before I go to sleep with only my sidstation and create and 
> audition 
> > patches.  This one seemingly simple function would entirely 
improve 
> > the ergonomics of this piece for the better. 
> 
> Unfortunately the key scanning hardware doesn't allow more than one 
> key to be read at a time.
> 
> Also, updating the SID-OS is nothing that could be done in an 
> afternoon, and should be considered only if we'd get some major 
> improvements. First I'd need to get into my old heavily optimated 8-
> bit source code, do the changes, and make it pretty likely that I 
> don't introduce any new bugs. That's more the common rule though, 
> especially if I'd dig into the inner depths. 
> 
> Then when a new OS is released we'd get a hell with people running 
> into problems with the upgrades. It seems as the SYSEX support in 
the 
> MIDI drivers have detoriated over the years, we can see that with 
> more people running into problems upgrading their Machinedrums over 
> time. With the Machinedrum you always keep the latest successfully 
> updated OS in memory, but the SidStation doesn't have the memory 
for 

> this, so if you fail you'd be left with a dead unit and curse those 
> damn Elektrons while paying the postage to and from Sweden. Sure, 
> there is also the "emergency upgrade mode" that should be activated 
> if the upgrade fails, but still the SYSEX upgrade of the SidStation 
> is a delicate process that better not fail.
> 
> What I'm saying is that we'd better have a very good reason for 
> getting everyone to upgrade. 
> 
> Daniel