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2001-01-12 by Isaiah Mulz
Does antone on the list have any really cool tops or tricks they'd like to
share about their sidstations? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thank you,
isaiah
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Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com2001-01-12 by Janne G-son Berg
On Fri Jan 12 2001, Isaiah Mulz <screwysquirrel99@...> wrote:
> Does antone on the list have any really cool tops or tricks they'd like to
> share about their sidstations? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Drums through the external input. Change filter types and cutoff. And
hear the sound go crazy!
Otherwise I'd recommend a noisegate. And filtersweeps. The sidsound is
often quite "wide" in it's frequency range, so sometimes you have to
eq out top or bottom to make it sit better in your mix.
/Janne
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Penetrate me like our dog Elbrev \ufffdr snabba djur2001-01-12 by Ethan Bakshy
For crazy video game type effects, you can set the S/H on an LFO to somewhere between 2-5, and set it to modulate the vibrato. If you have a keyboard w/ wheels, disable the usual modwheel settings and have your mod wheel control the LFO add depth of the vibrato, and you can do very funky things with the sound. On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 03:47:29PM -0000, Isaiah Mulz wrote: > Does antone on the list have any really cool tops or tricks they'd like to > share about their sidstations? Any feedback would be appreciated. > Thank you, > isaiah > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > -- ethan ------- A sect or party is an elegant incognito devised to save a man from the vexation of thinking. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
2001-01-26 by sophalicus@home.com
--- In elektron-users@y..., Ethan Bakshy <ethan@e...> wrote: > For crazy video game type effects, you can set the S/H on an LFO to > somewhere between 2-5, and set it to modulate the vibrato. If you have > a keyboard w/ wheels, disable the usual modwheel settings and have your mod > wheel control the LFO add depth of the vibrato, and you can do very > funky things with the sound. > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 03:47:29PM -0000, Isaiah Mulz wrote: > > Does antone on the list have any really cool tops or tricks they'd like to > > share about their sidstations? Any feedback would be appreciated. > > Thank you, > > isaiah > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ethan > > ------- > A sect or party is an elegant incognito devised to save a man from the > vexation of thinking. > - Ralph Waldo Emerson i like to process sid noise to add a nice ambient noise effect, sometimes i'll sync up an oscilator lfo and have it pulsating in and out in time with a sequence. this is the noise i'm talking about. (tweak the time for a nice background effect) Daniel of elektron had the suggestion of using a y cable on the output of the sid and run one of the leads on the y end into the input for a feedback loop. i've yet to try that, but is a great idea. THe arps, lfo's and tables are the best means to achieve interesting sounds. Control Oscilator volume with the sustain envelope parameter. happy, happy --- christian
2001-01-26 by Ethan Bakshy
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 05:30:02PM -0000, sophalicus@... wrote: > --- In elektron-users@y..., Ethan Bakshy <ethan@e...> wrote: > > For crazy video game type effects, you can set the S/H on an LFO to > > somewhere between 2-5, and set it to modulate the vibrato. If you have > > a keyboard w/ wheels, disable the usual modwheel settings and have your mod > > wheel control the LFO add depth of the vibrato, and you can do very > > funky things with the sound. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 03:47:29PM -0000, Isaiah Mulz wrote: > > > Does antone on the list have any really cool tops or tricks they'd like to > > > share about their sidstations? Any feedback would be appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > isaiah > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ethan > > > > ------- > > A sect or party is an elegant incognito devised to save a man from the > > vexation of thinking. > > - Ralph Waldo Emerson > > i like to process sid noise to add a nice ambient noise effect, > sometimes i'll sync up an oscilator lfo and have it pulsating in and > out in time with a sequence. this is the noise i'm talking about. > (tweak the time for a nice background effect) Daniel of elektron had > the suggestion of using a y cable on the output of the sid and run one > of the leads on the y end into the input for a feedback loop. i've yet > to try that, but is a great idea. THe arps, lfo's and tables are the > best means to achieve interesting sounds. Control Oscilator volume with > the sustain envelope parameter. I've done something similar with my sid, but a little more controlled. I connected the sid on the audio in on my sampler, and one of the outs back to the input on the sid, and i could control the feedback by raising and lowering the input level volume. and i must say, the sid has very cool feedback that I've never really heard before. Try it with different filter + filter modulation settings. -- ethan ------- God is a comic with an audience that is too afraid to laugh
2001-01-27 by sophalicus@home.com
> I've done something similar with my sid, but a little more controlled. > I connected the sid on the audio in on my sampler, and one of the outs > back to the input on the sid, and i could control the feedback by > raising and lowering the input level volume. and i must say, the sid > has very cool feedback that I've never really heard before. Try it > with different filter + filter modulation settings. > > -- > > ethan > > ------- > God is a comic with an audience that is too afraid to laugh thanks for the tip. after i gave it some thought i realized you'd benefit most from being able to adjust the gain going back into the sid....i was thinking in terms of mixer/patchbay routing(or maybe a dedicated preamp...eh)....but the sampler idea is great and wouldn't take much patching to get working. cheers, christian
2001-01-27 by Daniel Hansson
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 sophalicus@... wrote: > thanks for the tip. after i gave it some thought i realized you'd > benefit most from being able to adjust the gain going back into the > sid....i was thinking in terms of mixer/patchbay routing(or maybe a > dedicated preamp...eh)....but the sampler idea is great and wouldn't > take much patching to get working. You might get a slightly different, more phasing-like effect, from routing through a sampler though. If the audio is going through AD/DA-conversion there is a slight delay. This is probably also very cool, but I think it would differ from the direct feedback I mentioned. This only gives a different (more distinct with more resonance) filter characteristics. Daniel
2001-01-27 by izik levy
connect the out to the in ? well that was my idea :) daniel >>>> ? hehe if you connect your output to your input of the SIDSTATION the sound actually get a bit more rough and panchy>> the filter also get a virtual +4 to add to the resonance :) so here you go :) >From: Ethan Bakshy <ethan@...> >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: sid tips >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:35:23 -0600 > >On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 05:30:02PM -0000, sophalicus@... wrote: > > --- In elektron-users@y..., Ethan Bakshy <ethan@e...> wrote: > > > For crazy video game type effects, you can set the S/H on an LFO to > > > somewhere between 2-5, and set it to modulate the vibrato. If you have > > > a keyboard w/ wheels, disable the usual modwheel settings and have >your mod > > > wheel control the LFO add depth of the vibrato, and you can do very > > > funky things with the sound. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 03:47:29PM -0000, Isaiah Mulz wrote: > > > > Does antone on the list have any really cool tops or tricks they'd >like to > > > > share about their sidstations? Any feedback would be appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > > > isaiah > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ethan > > > > > > ------- > > > A sect or party is an elegant incognito devised to save a man from the > > > vexation of thinking. > > > - Ralph Waldo Emerson > > > > i like to process sid noise to add a nice ambient noise effect, > > sometimes i'll sync up an oscilator lfo and have it pulsating in and > > out in time with a sequence. this is the noise i'm talking about. > > (tweak the time for a nice background effect) Daniel of elektron had > > the suggestion of using a y cable on the output of the sid and run one > > of the leads on the y end into the input for a feedback loop. i've yet > > to try that, but is a great idea. THe arps, lfo's and tables are the > > best means to achieve interesting sounds. Control Oscilator volume with > > the sustain envelope parameter. > >I've done something similar with my sid, but a little more controlled. >I connected the sid on the audio in on my sampler, and one of the outs >back to the input on the sid, and i could control the feedback by >raising and lowering the input level volume. and i must say, the sid >has very cool feedback that I've never really heard before. Try it >with different filter + filter modulation settings. > >-- > >ethan > >------- >God is a comic with an audience that is too afraid to laugh _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
2001-01-27 by izik levy
connect the out to the in ? well that was my idea :) daniel >>>> ? hehe if you connect your output to your input of the SIDSTATION the sound actually get a bit more rough and panchy>> the filter also get a virtual +4 to add to the resonance :) so here you go :) >From: Ethan Bakshy <ethan@...> >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: sid tips >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:35:23 -0600 > >On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 05:30:02PM -0000, sophalicus@... wrote: > > --- In elektron-users@y..., Ethan Bakshy <ethan@e...> wrote: > > > For crazy video game type effects, you can set the S/H on an LFO to > > > somewhere between 2-5, and set it to modulate the vibrato. If you have > > > a keyboard w/ wheels, disable the usual modwheel settings and have >your mod > > > wheel control the LFO add depth of the vibrato, and you can do very > > > funky things with the sound. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 03:47:29PM -0000, Isaiah Mulz wrote: > > > > Does antone on the list have any really cool tops or tricks they'd >like to > > > > share about their sidstations? Any feedback would be appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > > > isaiah > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ethan > > > > > > ------- > > > A sect or party is an elegant incognito devised to save a man from the > > > vexation of thinking. > > > - Ralph Waldo Emerson > > > > i like to process sid noise to add a nice ambient noise effect, > > sometimes i'll sync up an oscilator lfo and have it pulsating in and > > out in time with a sequence. this is the noise i'm talking about. > > (tweak the time for a nice background effect) Daniel of elektron had > > the suggestion of using a y cable on the output of the sid and run one > > of the leads on the y end into the input for a feedback loop. i've yet > > to try that, but is a great idea. THe arps, lfo's and tables are the > > best means to achieve interesting sounds. Control Oscilator volume with > > the sustain envelope parameter. > >I've done something similar with my sid, but a little more controlled. >I connected the sid on the audio in on my sampler, and one of the outs >back to the input on the sid, and i could control the feedback by >raising and lowering the input level volume. and i must say, the sid >has very cool feedback that I've never really heard before. Try it >with different filter + filter modulation settings. > >-- > >ethan > >------- >God is a comic with an audience that is too afraid to laugh _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
2001-01-28 by izik levy
didnt ment to send the same post twice m new to this ! but now i wonder who is the person that's gona blow the sidstation to the air :) by connecting an 18k sound system to the sid's input now that the secret went out :) sidstation + plug-ins = realy good bonding _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
2001-01-28 by splank!
Another cool Idea to control the "feedback input volume" would be to do it with AUX on your mixer. I think I´ll try that version, because I want to know how it sounds, when other sounds come in the feedback-mix too. Splank!----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Hansson
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: sid tips
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 sophalicus@... wrote:
> thanks for the tip. after i gave it some thought i realized you'd
> benefit most from being able to adjust the gain going back into the
> sid....i was thinking in terms of mixer/patchbay routing(or maybe a
> dedicated preamp...eh)....but the sampler idea is great and wouldn't
> take much patching to get working.
You might get a slightly different, more phasing-like effect, from routing
through a sampler though. If the audio is going through AD/DA-conversion
there is a slight delay. This is probably also very cool, but I think it
would differ from the direct feedback I mentioned. This only gives a
different (more distinct with more resonance) filter characteristics.
Daniel
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