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Re: Send sample from Mac via midi dump with C6 soft

2009-01-28 by esynthesist

If the Emax-I supports SDS then it would be possible to make software 
which uses the standard MIDI ports to send/receive complete .EM1 
banks to/from the Emax. As far as I remember the Emax-II supports 
SDS, but I'm not sure about the Emax-I and I also don't know about 
the 12bit/16bit requirement (perhaps I will check this one of these 
days).

Anyway, in both cases you have to be aware that this operation mode 
will be VERY slow. Sending 512K of sample data across 31.25 kBaud 
lines will take some time (up to minutes...).
This software can be built for Windows, Mac and Linux, but at this 
point in time I don't have a "modern" Mac sitting here...
EMXP can be extended with this MIDI dump function, but I'd rather 
wait with this feature until the RS422 hardware project is finished 
(see other messages). The advantage of the RS422 is its speed. But 
once I write software for RS422, I can make it compatible with full 
(slow) MIDI SDS also.

Of course you can use already any MIDI scripting tool for Mac, but 
then you'll have to insert different MIDI instructions (manually ?) 
for each different .EM1/.EM2 bank. I guess this is not what 
musicians/producers call a great solution for getting a good flow in 
the production process :-)

Related to your panning (stereo field) issue: this is most probably 
caused by the difference in the Emax-I "Dual Voice" definition and 
the Emax-II "Stereo Voice" definition. If these settings are OFF, 
you'll not encounter any problem. 
But once they're ON, the translated results can have panning 
problems. I know that EMXP also suffers from this: I just translated 
my whole Emax-II library to Emax-I with EMXP and I have panning 
problems too. I was thinking about changing EMXP in such way that it 
doesn't set Dual Voice ON (Emax-I) when the Stereo Voice is ON (Emax-
II), but I'm still doubting because Emu itself is also translating 
these parameters like this (= when you save a bank on Emax-II into 
compressed format, like you did). 
Anyway: you could try to set Stereo Voice OFF before saving it to 
compressed format on an Emax-II, or you can switch Dual Voice OFF 
after loading it on an Emax-I.
But be aware that - by doing this - you *may* be solving panning 
problems but *may* also be introducing other important sound 
differences...

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "poumpoumchak" <cruising@...> wrote:
>
> Hello esynthesist,
> 
> Thanks for your answer. The idea to have a link between Mac/PC and 
the
> emax1 (andII) is really a great hope.
> As (many) a mac user(s) , I don't actually have solution to make any
> evolution in the Emax1/II banks or to import existing banks, and the
> old softs solutions are really difficult to use in a fluent studio
> working (I have dowloaded alchemy, olds macUU and lc475,630,g4.., 
but
> no more serial midi port).
> The little midi dump soft C6 permited me to send samples from my G5 
to
> the emaxII, and it was for me a really great victory : i was wayting
> for that since nearly 15 years : the last bank exchange i could made
> was between a Prophet 2000 and Mac Sound Designer such a long ago...
> And creating presets to manages these dump samples in the Emax is
> really not easy with a 2 lines display...
> So, the Rs422 adapter (usb?) would be really welcome an if EMXP 
could
> be used with, it would be a new life for the Emaxs...
> 
> I tried to make a little test last week : to mount the same bank 
from
> the EmaxII in the EIIIxp, EIVUltra, and in the Emax1 via compression
> and floppy save from the EmaxII. (This was to sample and compare 
> results in my Daw with a same midi file play).
> The compressed banks coming from the Emax II have a panning problem
> when I load them on the Emax1 : I have +- 85 % of the sound left and
> 15% right or the inverse, depending on the banks. Did I made wrong a
> step ? Is there a way to avoid this problem ?
> 
> Is it possible (with C6 or other soft) to send to the Emax1 samples
> via midi dump ? 
> Have these samples to be 12 bits ? I tried to send 16 bits samples 
and
> the Em1 sent me a handshaking problem answer. Is it because of the
> format, or the sds implementation ?
> 
> Thanks in advance (and long way to EMXP !)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >
> > Currently there's no way to transfer complete banks via MIDI 
sysex 
> > towards the Emax (I/II), except for the vintage "Sound Designer 
for 
> > Emax" Mac software which is capable of doing something like this 
but 
> > it only works for Emax-I.
> > Some members on this board were also trying to build a piece of 
> > hardware which can "replace" the RS422 ports of the old Mac, and 
> > which can be connected to a new PC or Mac. Once this is done, 
it's a 
> > simple thing to create software for both Windows and Mac which is 
> > able to do exactly what you're asking for.
> > But I didn't hear from those guys for some time anymore, so I 
assume 
> > their experiments are not successful :-)
> > As far as I know, Chickensys Translator does not support MIDI 
> > communication with any sampler. They focus on file- or disk based 
> > translations (like EMXP) but it's true that there's some delay on 
> > full support for the Emax-II. As far as I know the current 
version 
> > already supports Emax-II in "some way" (not Emax-I).   
> > 
> > By the way, Rei: I'm very sorry to hear that this is your opinion 
> > about EMXP... 
> > 
> > ///E-Synthesist 
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rei" <vjrei@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please, go over with your request to the people of chicken 
systems. 
> > I have been asking them 
> > > for ever to have suport for the emax II samplesr and they told 
me 
> > that by las October they 
> > > probably had something.
> > > 
> > > I believe that with preassure they can spend some good time 
into 
> > the emax compatibility 
> > > because the EMXP is too absurrb and I really need a Mac 
software as 
> > well just because the 
> > > emax still amazing!!!
> > >
> >
>

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