Emax

Hello Esynthesist,

Thanks for this good new ! I could not do the test myself : I have no
more soft at this time in the Mac able to save samples as 12 bits
lengh, and could not find any converter to 12 bits... and C6 does not
convert anything (it only sends Wav, Aiff, and Sns Files). I read
again the Emax1 manual and did not found anything speaking about midi
dump. I looked at midi-OX that would be interesting..but one more time
not for mac.

About the compatibility of the compressed banks from the EmaxII, I
made a new test today with a bank of single samples (with the device
dual  off) on the EmaxII when saving, and had again a strange panning
when loaded in the Emax1 (+-85% an+-15% again) I shall try tomorrow to
find the pan function in the E1 and understand why.

If you want me to test some softs evolutions on Mac, I can do it for
you (actually with a PPC Mac Pro 2 x 2,5Ghz)under os X.4.11, and soon
with Intel processor (just waiting for the next generation of Mac Pro)

A last question : what would permit the Ted Summers SCSI upgrade to do
for a Mac user ?

Thanks in advance




--- In emax@...m, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
>
> Today I checked if MIDI SDS is working fine on the Emax-I.
> And it does. 
> But the samples must be in 12-bit unsigned format. I don't know if C6 
> or any other sample dump software supports this. The tests I've done 
> were with MIDI-OX but that's not the best tool to do sample dumps 
> with :-)
> And I used the Emax Plus OS.
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >
> > If the Emax-I supports SDS then it would be possible to make 
> software 
> > which uses the standard MIDI ports to send/receive complete .EM1 
> > banks to/from the Emax. As far as I remember the Emax-II supports 
> > SDS, but I'm not sure about the Emax-I and I also don't know about 
> > the 12bit/16bit requirement (perhaps I will check this one of these 
> > days).
> > 
> > Anyway, in both cases you have to be aware that this operation mode 
> > will be VERY slow. Sending 512K of sample data across 31.25 kBaud 
> > lines will take some time (up to minutes...).
> > This software can be built for Windows, Mac and Linux, but at this 
> > point in time I don't have a "modern" Mac sitting here...
> > EMXP can be extended with this MIDI dump function, but I'd rather 
> > wait with this feature until the RS422 hardware project is finished 
> > (see other messages). The advantage of the RS422 is its speed. But 
> > once I write software for RS422, I can make it compatible with full 
> > (slow) MIDI SDS also.
> > 
> > Of course you can use already any MIDI scripting tool for Mac, but 
> > then you'll have to insert different MIDI instructions (manually ?) 
> > for each different .EM1/.EM2 bank. I guess this is not what 
> > musicians/producers call a great solution for getting a good flow 
> in 
> > the production process :-)
> > 
> > Related to your panning (stereo field) issue: this is most probably 
> > caused by the difference in the Emax-I "Dual Voice" definition and 
> > the Emax-II "Stereo Voice" definition. If these settings are OFF, 
> > you'll not encounter any problem. 
> > But once they're ON, the translated results can have panning 
> > problems. I know that EMXP also suffers from this: I just 
> translated 
> > my whole Emax-II library to Emax-I with EMXP and I have panning 
> > problems too. I was thinking about changing EMXP in such way that 
> it 
> > doesn't set Dual Voice ON (Emax-I) when the Stereo Voice is ON 
> (Emax-
> > II), but I'm still doubting because Emu itself is also translating 
> > these parameters like this (= when you save a bank on Emax-II into 
> > compressed format, like you did). 
> > Anyway: you could try to set Stereo Voice OFF before saving it to 
> > compressed format on an Emax-II, or you can switch Dual Voice OFF 
> > after loading it on an Emax-I.
> > But be aware that - by doing this - you *may* be solving panning 
> > problems but *may* also be introducing other important sound 
> > differences...
> > 
> > ///E-Synthesist
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "poumpoumchak" <cruising@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello esynthesist,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your answer. The idea to have a link between Mac/PC 
> and 
> > the
> > > emax1 (andII) is really a great hope.
> > > As (many) a mac user(s) , I don't actually have solution to make 
> any
> > > evolution in the Emax1/II banks or to import existing banks, and 
> the
> > > old softs solutions are really difficult to use in a fluent studio
> > > working (I have dowloaded alchemy, olds macUU and lc475,630,g4.., 
> > but
> > > no more serial midi port).
> > > The little midi dump soft C6 permited me to send samples from my 
> G5 
> > to
> > > the emaxII, and it was for me a really great victory : i was 
> wayting
> > > for that since nearly 15 years : the last bank exchange i could 
> made
> > > was between a Prophet 2000 and Mac Sound Designer such a long 
> ago...
> > > And creating presets to manages these dump samples in the Emax is
> > > really not easy with a 2 lines display...
> > > So, the Rs422 adapter (usb?) would be really welcome an if EMXP 
> > could
> > > be used with, it would be a new life for the Emaxs...
> > > 
> > > I tried to make a little test last week : to mount the same bank 
> > from
> > > the EmaxII in the EIIIxp, EIVUltra, and in the Emax1 via 
> compression
> > > and floppy save from the EmaxII. (This was to sample and compare 
> > > results in my Daw with a same midi file play).
> > > The compressed banks coming from the Emax II have a panning 
> problem
> > > when I load them on the Emax1 : I have +- 85 % of the sound left 
> and
> > > 15% right or the inverse, depending on the banks. Did I made 
> wrong a
> > > step ? Is there a way to avoid this problem ?
> > > 
> > > Is it possible (with C6 or other soft) to send to the Emax1 
> samples
> > > via midi dump ? 
> > > Have these samples to be 12 bits ? I tried to send 16 bits 
> samples 
> > and
> > > the Em1 sent me a handshaking problem answer. Is it because of the
> > > format, or the sds implementation ?
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance (and long way to EMXP !)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Currently there's no way to transfer complete banks via MIDI 
> > sysex 
> > > > towards the Emax (I/II), except for the vintage "Sound Designer 
> > for 
> > > > Emax" Mac software which is capable of doing something like 
> this 
> > but 
> > > > it only works for Emax-I.
> > > > Some members on this board were also trying to build a piece of 
> > > > hardware which can "replace" the RS422 ports of the old Mac, 
> and 
> > > > which can be connected to a new PC or Mac. Once this is done, 
> > it's a 
> > > > simple thing to create software for both Windows and Mac which 
> is 
> > > > able to do exactly what you're asking for.
> > > > But I didn't hear from those guys for some time anymore, so I 
> > assume 
> > > > their experiments are not successful :-)
> > > > As far as I know, Chickensys Translator does not support MIDI 
> > > > communication with any sampler. They focus on file- or disk 
> based 
> > > > translations (like EMXP) but it's true that there's some delay 
> on 
> > > > full support for the Emax-II. As far as I know the current 
> > version 
> > > > already supports Emax-II in "some way" (not Emax-I).   
> > > > 
> > > > By the way, Rei: I'm very sorry to hear that this is your 
> opinion 
> > > > about EMXP... 
> > > > 
> > > > ///E-Synthesist 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rei" <vjrei@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please, go over with your request to the people of chicken 
> > systems. 
> > > > I have been asking them 
> > > > > for ever to have suport for the emax II samplesr and they 
> told 
> > me 
> > > > that by las October they 
> > > > > probably had something.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I believe that with preassure they can spend some good time 
> > into 
> > > > the emax compatibility 
> > > > > because the EMXP is too absurrb and I really need a Mac 
> > software as 
> > > > well just because the 
> > > > > emax still amazing!!!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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