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Re: [emax] Re: Emax 2 vs kurzweil K2500 Sampler

2009-10-09 by Brooks Mosher

fact:

you can do a lot more on a K2500 than any of the other mentioned samplers.
with all the functionality it offers, it's like the swiss army knife of
samplers.  not too mention, if you're into techno that comes out of Detroit
you should know that a lot of producers used the K2000 (Carl Craig, Kenny
Larkin, Anthony "Shake" Shakir...).  they're really more than a sampler;
they're hardware DSP machines that sample.

my opinion:

they are punchy sounding but definitely lack the warmth of Emu samplers such
as the Emax or EIII.  i've always thought the K2000 to have somewhat of a
colder metalic quality but that could also be the internal ROM sound set
(really nice strings on it though).  contrary to other opnions i found the
K2000 to be quite immediate and easy to get what i want out.  you can do
whole tracks with one as well (unlike an Emax)...



On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:27 PM, nonlocalmusic <nonlocalmusic@...>wrote:

>
>
> fwiw the period of Autechre that I've most enjoyed (amber to chiastic
> slide) is super heavy on the ensoniq samplers eps/asr10.
>
> The k series samplers certainly can do a lot interesting processing, but
> they are not nearly as immediate or fun to use as an emu or ensoniq.
>
> I love the E4 series. Maybe not the best for grainy, but not surpassed for
> creamy smoothness. fantastic filters and sick bass!
>
> I'll second the notion above tho... with the prices for hardware samplers
> where they are at today -- if you're making the choice to use hardware, you
> may as well buy one of each and use them for what they particularly excel
> at.
>
> Depending on the market where you live, one could buy nearly all the top
> samplers for the price of one midlevel board ten years ago.
>
> emax $40, e4xt $50, s770 $150, eps $150 ASR10 350, MPC60 $450, s950 $150
> k2000 $200, .
>
> The s770 alone listed at $13000 when new :-O
>
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, David Bulog <d2ba@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Tristan
> > What interested me about the K2500 is early Autechure used a K2500RS
> > and they claim that is their best sampler for mangling samples at the
> > time --late 1990s
> > I did notice that the sampling on Emax 2 contains that magic grain
> > much like the SP1200. EMU lost it with the Emulator 4 series
> > I bought the K2500 keyboard USD$400 ---I like the keyboard and
> > appegiator.
> > One advantage is you can send midi notes out in the appegiator but one
> > the otherhand you cannot clock the appegiator to midi clock directly
> > unless you go into dequencer song mode and record it as a sequence---
> > go figure
> > In the Emax 2 Appegiator you can clock to midi clock but it does not
> > send midi notes out
> >
> >
> > cheers David
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14/09/2009, at 12:50 AM, Tristan wrote:
> >
> > > Hello David,
> > >
> > > Yes, I own both. The K2500 operating system and features are much more
> > > sophisticated than the Emax 2 and the sound is also quite different.
> > > The K2500 sample playback is very clean, and can of course be
> > > processed by the VAST DSP engine, but lacks what I can only describe
> > > as the grain and bite of the Emax 2. The K2500 can also only transpose
> > > samples up about one octave (or two at reduced fidelity) whereas the
> > > Emax 2 can go up 5 octaves. But the K2500 supports 44.1kHz and 48kHz
> > > sampling rates and the sampling option provides digital I/O. When I
> > > originally changed from an Emax 2 to a K2000 I must admit I was a bit
> > > disappointed by the sound of the Kurzweil, but at today's prices you
> > > can easily afford to have both :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tristan mailto:tu@...
> > >
> > > Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:49:30 PM, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Can you tell me if the Kurzweil K2500 with sampling option is as nice
> > > a sounding sampler as Emax 2
> > > Anyone own both
> > >
> > > thanks in advance
> > > David
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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