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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 and Alchemy

2011-09-01 by Francis Cote

Thanks Johnny,

I have tested the RS422 port with a MOTU Midi Timepiece AV MIDI interface
(old serial model) and it works fine.


On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:

> Thanks for confirming this. This will add yet another machine to my pile of
> useless junk! :) Sad, It's a sexy machine.
>
> I know the cable is fine. I tested the resistance many times with my
> multimeter. On the subject, is 4mb of RAM enough to run Alchemy? I'd prefer
> to find some 030 machine if possible. Would I be ok with any 030 machine?
>
> P.S. Why are you writing my name with "�" instead of a "c"? It's a French
> language error! Just messing with you.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> i have a powerbook G3 wallstreet, it doesnt send stuff thru RS422, does
>> the same than you...
>> i guess you'll have to buy an older powerbook, as said by E-Synthesist,
>> for some
>> great compatibility the best is really mac SE, or SE/30 (this model is
>> much faster than the SE)
>>
>> Le 1 sept. 2011 � 22:20, Francis Cote a �crit :
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Ok...
>> >
>> > Number 1 would be consistent other reponses I got. What bothers me is
>> the
>> > fact that I have seen this "complete kit" that includes a Wallstreet G3
>> > powerbook and an Emax 2 (they suppposedly worked... That is what I had
>> seen
>> > on Ebay).
>> >
>> > Number 2, I have to check because I got my Emax abobut a month ago... So
>> no,
>> > I haven't done that test and I'll have to research this for sure.
>> >
>> > I'll start with number 2. I don't have a classic Mac to test with (I had
>> a
>> > few, they ended up in 3 feet of water on spring morning. They didn't
>> like
>> > for some reason).
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot you guys for the help.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:10 PM, esynthesist <esynthesist@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The problems you have is not really the same as the problem I'm
>> mentioning
>> >> on my website - with some Emax-II the samples sent to the Emax-II
>> through
>> >> RS422 are corrupt, but even then the RS422 communication itself is
>> working
>> >> and a keymap is shown on the screen of Alchemy.
>> >>
>> >> Basically imo there are four possible causes of your problem:
>> >> 1/ The Powerbook's serial port is not 100pct compatible with the Emax
>> RS422
>> >> specs. This is true with many Mac computers, especially later
>> versions...
>> >> the good old mac classic and SE series and some old powerbooks (165,
>> 180,
>> >> ...) are known to be the best choice for old Emu samplers.
>> >> 2/ The Emax-II's RS422 port is failing. This can be tested with the
>> >> Diagnostics 3 menu in combination with a small DB9 testplug that you
>> should
>> >> build (or by wiring some pins as explained in the diagnostics guide of
>> the
>> >> Emax-II) --> did you do this test ?
>> >> 3/ The cable is not OK. But that can easily be checked with a
>> >> resistance/multi meter, so this is probably not the issue
>> >> 4/ The setup in Alchemy is not correct. But there's really not a lot to
>> be
>> >> set up :-) Just select Emax-II in Network, and then go to
>> >> Network->Instruments->Edit and make sure RS422 radiobutton is ON and
>> the
>> >> modem port is selected (and plug the cable in the modem port of
>> course).
>> >>
>> >> (I'm betting on either 1/ or 2/ !)
>> >>
>> >> ///E-Synthesist
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't fiind anything else but OS 2.14 for the Emax 2. I did notice
>> on
>> >>> emxp.net that there own RS422 transfert program has problems with
>> some
>> >> Emax
>> >>> 2. So, sadly, I guess mine is possibly from that bunch...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I use the serial port. I've seen at least one Emax 2 being sold with
>> >> the
>> >>>> same Powerbook and Alchemy.
>> >>>> I'll look for that tweaked OS. I'm using 2.14.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:38 AM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> **
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Fran�is, You must use the modem port with Alchemy,also
>> >>>>> you need to have the latest version of emax os,
>> >>>>> The one upgraded by the Emulator genius that did the EMXP software:
>> >>>>> http://www.emxp.net/
>> >>>>> Some Macintosh computers models built after the Mac SE/30 models
>> >>>>> (basically any with better processors than 68030) may not have the
>> >> same
>> >>>>> serial ports specs, thats why it might also not recognise the Emax
>> >> even if
>> >>>>> the cable is perfect...
>> >>>>> Try first with the tweaked OS, it works here for me (Emax 1 & 2, Mac
>> >>>>> SE/30, rs422 cable)
>> >>>>> Good luck!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Le 1 sept. 2011 � 03:20, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> a �crit :
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Back from vacation.
>> >>>>>> I've tested the serial port of my powerbook with my serial MOTU
>> Midi
>> >>>>>> timepiece and it works fine.
>> >>>>>> So I guessed it had to be the cable, so i used a functional miniDin
>> >> 8,
>> >>>>>> clipped one end and soldered the DP9 serial connector. I used the
>> >> pinout
>> >>>>>> indicated on the Emulator Archives site. I checked the continuity
>> of
>> >>>>> every
>> >>>>>> pin. The cable is theoretically fine.
>> >>>>>> I keep getting "Can't get keyboard map from Emax II" in Alchemy.
>> >> Wether
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>>> try to send or receive I get the same error.
>> >>>>>> There might be something I'm doing wrong either in Alchemy or on
>> the
>> >>>>> Emax...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Am I suppose to be an a specific module on the Emax? Is there a
>> >> setting?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I know Midi sample dump is suppose to work, but it's really slow
>> and
>> >> my
>> >>>>> Emax
>> >>>>>> is not connected in that way (hard to explain, complicated setup.
>> >> Which
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>>> will change if I really really have no choice...)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Any help is welcome!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
>> >>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have a Powerbook G3 Wallstreet. I think it should work, no?
>> >>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:44 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> on some Mac models only the modem port works for high speed
>> >>>>>>> communications as Apple skimped on the port circuitry for the
>> >> printer
>> >>>>> port.
>> >>>>>>>> If you have a modem installed and the modem port is blocked off,
>> >> you
>> >>>>>>> remove the modem and then unblock the modem port and use that
>> >> port.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> But again- that depends on model of Mac.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I know it is true for my 6214 Performa and was also true of my
>> >> Beige
>> >>>>> G3
>> >>>>>>> that I had....
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>>> Ted
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> What do you do to make it work?
>> >>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:16 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> I havent tried my Emax 2, but my Emax 1 works fine.
>> >>>>>>>>> It did take a little figuring out.
>> >>>>>>>>> But the speed difference from MIDI to 422 made it well worth
>> >> the
>> >>>>> effort.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Regards.
>> >>>>>>>>> Ted
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Johnny Tomasello wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I haven't gotten this to work either (Emax I SH/HD), but use
>> >> the
>> >>>>> MIDI
>> >>>>>>>> sample dump instead, which that works fine.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I know that wasn't any help to you, but I was wondering if the
>> >>>>> transfer
>> >>>>>>>> rates were any better using the 422?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> J.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Can't get it to work. Anyone managed to make this work? I
>> >> kinda
>> >>>>> think
>> >>>>>>> my
>> >>>>>>>>>> cable would be the issue, but I checked the pinouts and the
>> >>>>> connections
>> >>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>> fine.
>> >>>>>>>>>> My model is a 2mb stereo (2212 I believe).
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Anything I should check?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks
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