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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 and Alchemy

2011-09-01 by LIFELIKE

french language error, its written like that in French :-)))
sorry Francis. hope you'll get your setup to work soon!


Le 1 sept. 2011 à 22:39, Francis Cote a écrit :

> 
> Thanks for confirming this. This will add yet another machine to my pile of
> useless junk! :) Sad, It's a sexy machine.
> 
> I know the cable is fine. I tested the resistance many times with my
> multimeter. On the subject, is 4mb of RAM enough to run Alchemy? I'd prefer
> to find some 030 machine if possible. Would I be ok with any 030 machine?
> 
> P.S. Why are you writing my name with "ç" instead of a "c"? It's a French
> language error! Just messing with you.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
> 
>> **
>> 
>> 
>> i have a powerbook G3 wallstreet, it doesnt send stuff thru RS422, does the
>> same than you...
>> i guess you'll have to buy an older powerbook, as said by E-Synthesist, for
>> some
>> great compatibility the best is really mac SE, or SE/30 (this model is much
>> faster than the SE)
>> 
>> Le 1 sept. 2011 à 22:20, Francis Cote a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok...
>>> 
>>> Number 1 would be consistent other reponses I got. What bothers me is the
>>> fact that I have seen this "complete kit" that includes a Wallstreet G3
>>> powerbook and an Emax 2 (they suppposedly worked... That is what I had
>> seen
>>> on Ebay).
>>> 
>>> Number 2, I have to check because I got my Emax abobut a month ago... So
>> no,
>>> I haven't done that test and I'll have to research this for sure.
>>> 
>>> I'll start with number 2. I don't have a classic Mac to test with (I had
>> a
>>> few, they ended up in 3 feet of water on spring morning. They didn't like
>>> for some reason).
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot you guys for the help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:10 PM, esynthesist <esynthesist@...>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> **
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The problems you have is not really the same as the problem I'm
>> mentioning
>>>> on my website - with some Emax-II the samples sent to the Emax-II
>> through
>>>> RS422 are corrupt, but even then the RS422 communication itself is
>> working
>>>> and a keymap is shown on the screen of Alchemy.
>>>> 
>>>> Basically imo there are four possible causes of your problem:
>>>> 1/ The Powerbook's serial port is not 100pct compatible with the Emax
>> RS422
>>>> specs. This is true with many Mac computers, especially later
>> versions...
>>>> the good old mac classic and SE series and some old powerbooks (165,
>> 180,
>>>> ...) are known to be the best choice for old Emu samplers.
>>>> 2/ The Emax-II's RS422 port is failing. This can be tested with the
>>>> Diagnostics 3 menu in combination with a small DB9 testplug that you
>> should
>>>> build (or by wiring some pins as explained in the diagnostics guide of
>> the
>>>> Emax-II) --> did you do this test ?
>>>> 3/ The cable is not OK. But that can easily be checked with a
>>>> resistance/multi meter, so this is probably not the issue
>>>> 4/ The setup in Alchemy is not correct. But there's really not a lot to
>> be
>>>> set up :-) Just select Emax-II in Network, and then go to
>>>> Network->Instruments->Edit and make sure RS422 radiobutton is ON and the
>>>> modem port is selected (and plug the cable in the modem port of course).
>>>> 
>>>> (I'm betting on either 1/ or 2/ !)
>>>> 
>>>> ///E-Synthesist
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't fiind anything else but OS 2.14 for the Emax 2. I did notice on
>>>>> emxp.net that there own RS422 transfert program has problems with some
>>>> Emax
>>>>> 2. So, sadly, I guess mine is possibly from that bunch...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use the serial port. I've seen at least one Emax 2 being sold with
>>>> the
>>>>>> same Powerbook and Alchemy.
>>>>>> I'll look for that tweaked OS. I'm using 2.14.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:38 AM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Françis, You must use the modem port with Alchemy,also
>>>>>>> you need to have the latest version of emax os,
>>>>>>> The one upgraded by the Emulator genius that did the EMXP software:
>>>>>>> http://www.emxp.net/
>>>>>>> Some Macintosh computers models built after the Mac SE/30 models
>>>>>>> (basically any with better processors than 68030) may not have the
>>>> same
>>>>>>> serial ports specs, thats why it might also not recognise the Emax
>>>> even if
>>>>>>> the cable is perfect...
>>>>>>> Try first with the tweaked OS, it works here for me (Emax 1 & 2, Mac
>>>>>>> SE/30, rs422 cable)
>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 1 sept. 2011 à 03:20, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Back from vacation.
>>>>>>>> I've tested the serial port of my powerbook with my serial MOTU Midi
>>>>>>>> timepiece and it works fine.
>>>>>>>> So I guessed it had to be the cable, so i used a functional miniDin
>>>> 8,
>>>>>>>> clipped one end and soldered the DP9 serial connector. I used the
>>>> pinout
>>>>>>>> indicated on the Emulator Archives site. I checked the continuity of
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>> pin. The cable is theoretically fine.
>>>>>>>> I keep getting "Can't get keyboard map from Emax II" in Alchemy.
>>>> Wether
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> try to send or receive I get the same error.
>>>>>>>> There might be something I'm doing wrong either in Alchemy or on the
>>>>>>> Emax...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am I suppose to be an a specific module on the Emax? Is there a
>>>> setting?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I know Midi sample dump is suppose to work, but it's really slow and
>>>> my
>>>>>>> Emax
>>>>>>>> is not connected in that way (hard to explain, complicated setup.
>>>> Which
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> will change if I really really have no choice...)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any help is welcome!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have a Powerbook G3 Wallstreet. I think it should work, no?
>>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:44 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> on some Mac models only the modem port works for high speed
>>>>>>>>> communications as Apple skimped on the port circuitry for the
>>>> printer
>>>>>>> port.
>>>>>>>>>> If you have a modem installed and the modem port is blocked off,
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> remove the modem and then unblock the modem port and use that
>>>> port.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But again- that depends on model of Mac.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I know it is true for my 6214 Performa and was also true of my
>>>> Beige
>>>>>>> G3
>>>>>>>>> that I had....
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What do you do to make it work?
>>>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:16 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I havent tried my Emax 2, but my Emax 1 works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>> It did take a little figuring out.
>>>>>>>>>>> But the speed difference from MIDI to 422 made it well worth
>>>> the
>>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Johnny Tomasello wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't gotten this to work either (Emax I SH/HD), but use
>>>> the
>>>>>>> MIDI
>>>>>>>>>> sample dump instead, which that works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I know that wasn't any help to you, but I was wondering if the
>>>>>>> transfer
>>>>>>>>>> rates were any better using the 422?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't get it to work. Anyone managed to make this work? I
>>>> kinda
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> cable would be the issue, but I checked the pinouts and the
>>>>>>> connections
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My model is a 2mb stereo (2212 I believe).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything I should check?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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