Emax

Yes, I read in full banks and sent them back.
But that was an Emax 1.
At the time I didn't have an Emax 2.
I would have to look at the schematic, but I BELIEVE the Emax 1 and 2 the
RS-422 circuit is the same.

Where I had the "bad" port or a bad cable, the send wouldn't work
either.....

Regards,
Ted




On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I found a diagnostic guide for Emax but not for Emax 2 on the group's files
> section. I saw a sort of  Rs422 in it, is it the same for the Emax 2?
>
> I've been reviewing this thread, and I have a question for Ted Summers. You
> wrote you had to remove the modem from your Performa 6214 and a beige G3,
> am
> I to assume you were able to transfert samples from them to you Emax?
>
>
> Seriously, guys, am I breaking my balls for nothing? Here is where my state
> of mind is at this moment... And I really need your advice because you've
> had an Emax for a long time and I haven't.
>
> I drive I use in the Emax is a Zip drive, and it works fine. I have a pile
> of disks gathered of the time. I got myself a USB 250 MB Zip drive and I
> was
> able to put some banks using EMXP, in a VirtualBox running XP on my Macbook
> pro. That, well, put a doubt in my mind because if EMXP enables me to
> "dump"
> samples into a preset on a Zip disk, I have no need for another machine
> piled up on my desk.
>
>
> Here are the computers and other things  I have. I'm looking for
> suggestions. My goal is to simplify my sample transfers. And I also have
> other samplers I used to transfert with SCSI from a PC, but that PC needs
> to
> be transformed into a NAS. So I'm loosing it... SO I will list those as
> well.
>
> Here it goes:
>
> - Powerbook G3 Wallstreet II
> - Powermac G4 MDD Dual 867, with an Adaptec AHA-2940U Scsi card.
> - MacBook Pro 15" late 2008.
> - 250mb USB Zip drive, Zip 100 SCSI on the Emax 2.
>
> Samplers
> - Emax 2, Zip 100 SCSI.
> - E-Mu E-Synth Classic Dance version, internal 2GB Jaz
> - Yamaha A3000 V2, internal Zip 100 SCSI
> - Akai S950 (Floppy, but I'm suppose to get my hands on a SCSI card for it
> from a friend)
> - Roland S550, External Zip 100.
>
> Help....
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:42 PM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > french language error, its written like that in French :-)))
> > sorry Francis. hope you'll get your setup to work soon!
> >
> > Le 1 sept. 2011 à 22:39, Francis Cote a écrit :
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks for confirming this. This will add yet another machine to my
> pile
> > of
> > > useless junk! :) Sad, It's a sexy machine.
> > >
> > > I know the cable is fine. I tested the resistance many times with my
> > > multimeter. On the subject, is 4mb of RAM enough to run Alchemy? I'd
> > prefer
> > > to find some 030 machine if possible. Would I be ok with any 030
> machine?
> > >
> > > P.S. Why are you writing my name with "ç" instead of a "c"? It's a
> French
> > > language error! Just messing with you.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> i have a powerbook G3 wallstreet, it doesnt send stuff thru RS422,
> does
> > the
> > >> same than you...
> > >> i guess you'll have to buy an older powerbook, as said by
> E-Synthesist,
> > for
> > >> some
> > >> great compatibility the best is really mac SE, or SE/30 (this model is
> > much
> > >> faster than the SE)
> > >>
> > >> Le 1 sept. 2011 à 22:20, Francis Cote a écrit :
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Ok...
> > >>>
> > >>> Number 1 would be consistent other reponses I got. What bothers me is
> > the
> > >>> fact that I have seen this "complete kit" that includes a Wallstreet
> G3
> > >>> powerbook and an Emax 2 (they suppposedly worked... That is what I
> had
> > >> seen
> > >>> on Ebay).
> > >>>
> > >>> Number 2, I have to check because I got my Emax abobut a month ago...
> > So
> > >> no,
> > >>> I haven't done that test and I'll have to research this for sure.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'll start with number 2. I don't have a classic Mac to test with (I
> > had
> > >> a
> > >>> few, they ended up in 3 feet of water on spring morning. They didn't
> > like
> > >>> for some reason).
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks a lot you guys for the help.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:10 PM, esynthesist <esynthesist@...>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> **
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The problems you have is not really the same as the problem I'm
> > >> mentioning
> > >>>> on my website - with some Emax-II the samples sent to the Emax-II
> > >> through
> > >>>> RS422 are corrupt, but even then the RS422 communication itself is
> > >> working
> > >>>> and a keymap is shown on the screen of Alchemy.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Basically imo there are four possible causes of your problem:
> > >>>> 1/ The Powerbook's serial port is not 100pct compatible with the
> Emax
> > >> RS422
> > >>>> specs. This is true with many Mac computers, especially later
> > >> versions...
> > >>>> the good old mac classic and SE series and some old powerbooks (165,
> > >> 180,
> > >>>> ...) are known to be the best choice for old Emu samplers.
> > >>>> 2/ The Emax-II's RS422 port is failing. This can be tested with the
> > >>>> Diagnostics 3 menu in combination with a small DB9 testplug that you
> > >> should
> > >>>> build (or by wiring some pins as explained in the diagnostics guide
> of
> > >> the
> > >>>> Emax-II) --> did you do this test ?
> > >>>> 3/ The cable is not OK. But that can easily be checked with a
> > >>>> resistance/multi meter, so this is probably not the issue
> > >>>> 4/ The setup in Alchemy is not correct. But there's really not a lot
> > to
> > >> be
> > >>>> set up :-) Just select Emax-II in Network, and then go to
> > >>>> Network->Instruments->Edit and make sure RS422 radiobutton is ON and
> > the
> > >>>> modem port is selected (and plug the cable in the modem port of
> > course).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (I'm betting on either 1/ or 2/ !)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ///E-Synthesist
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I can't fiind anything else but OS 2.14 for the Emax 2. I did
> notice
> > on
> > >>>>> emxp.net that there own RS422 transfert program has problems with
> > some
> > >>>> Emax
> > >>>>> 2. So, sadly, I guess mine is possibly from that bunch...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I use the serial port. I've seen at least one Emax 2 being sold
> with
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>> same Powerbook and Alchemy.
> > >>>>>> I'll look for that tweaked OS. I'm using 2.14.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:38 AM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> **
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Françis, You must use the modem port with Alchemy,also
> > >>>>>>> you need to have the latest version of emax os,
> > >>>>>>> The one upgraded by the Emulator genius that did the EMXP
> software:
> > >>>>>>> http://www.emxp.net/
> > >>>>>>> Some Macintosh computers models built after the Mac SE/30 models
> > >>>>>>> (basically any with better processors than 68030) may not have
> the
> > >>>> same
> > >>>>>>> serial ports specs, thats why it might also not recognise the
> Emax
> > >>>> even if
> > >>>>>>> the cable is perfect...
> > >>>>>>> Try first with the tweaked OS, it works here for me (Emax 1 & 2,
> > Mac
> > >>>>>>> SE/30, rs422 cable)
> > >>>>>>> Good luck!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Le 1 sept. 2011 à 03:20, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> a écrit
> :
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Back from vacation.
> > >>>>>>>> I've tested the serial port of my powerbook with my serial MOTU
> > Midi
> > >>>>>>>> timepiece and it works fine.
> > >>>>>>>> So I guessed it had to be the cable, so i used a functional
> > miniDin
> > >>>> 8,
> > >>>>>>>> clipped one end and soldered the DP9 serial connector. I used
> the
> > >>>> pinout
> > >>>>>>>> indicated on the Emulator Archives site. I checked the
> continuity
> > of
> > >>>>>>> every
> > >>>>>>>> pin. The cable is theoretically fine.
> > >>>>>>>> I keep getting "Can't get keyboard map from Emax II" in Alchemy.
> > >>>> Wether
> > >>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>> try to send or receive I get the same error.
> > >>>>>>>> There might be something I'm doing wrong either in Alchemy or on
> > the
> > >>>>>>> Emax...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Am I suppose to be an a specific module on the Emax? Is there a
> > >>>> setting?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I know Midi sample dump is suppose to work, but it's really slow
> > and
> > >>>> my
> > >>>>>>> Emax
> > >>>>>>>> is not connected in that way (hard to explain, complicated
> setup.
> > >>>> Which
> > >>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>> will change if I really really have no choice...)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Any help is welcome!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I have a Powerbook G3 Wallstreet. I think it should work, no?
> > >>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:44 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> on some Mac models only the modem port works for high speed
> > >>>>>>>>> communications as Apple skimped on the port circuitry for the
> > >>>> printer
> > >>>>>>> port.
> > >>>>>>>>>> If you have a modem installed and the modem port is blocked
> off,
> > >>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>> remove the modem and then unblock the modem port and use that
> > >>>> port.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> But again- that depends on model of Mac.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I know it is true for my 6214 Performa and was also true of my
> > >>>> Beige
> > >>>>>>> G3
> > >>>>>>>>> that I had....
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>> Ted
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> What do you do to make it work?
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:16 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I havent tried my Emax 2, but my Emax 1 works fine.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> It did take a little figuring out.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> But the speed difference from MIDI to 422 made it well worth
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>> effort.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ted
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Johnny Tomasello wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I haven't gotten this to work either (Emax I SH/HD), but use
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>> MIDI
> > >>>>>>>>>> sample dump instead, which that works fine.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I know that wasn't any help to you, but I was wondering if
> the
> > >>>>>>> transfer
> > >>>>>>>>>> rates were any better using the 422?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> J.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Can't get it to work. Anyone managed to make this work? I
> > >>>> kinda
> > >>>>>>> think
> > >>>>>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> cable would be the issue, but I checked the pinouts and the
> > >>>>>>> connections
> > >>>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> fine.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> My model is a 2mb stereo (2212 I believe).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Anything I should check?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
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