Emax

If it worked with your Emax 2, that demonstrates that the ports on Powerpc
machines work. Which a bit contradicts what I've seen in responses...

I wonder if I remove the internal modem from the powerbook... It might work.
It's a PITA to "play" in these machines but it's worth a try.



On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Yes, I read in full banks and sent them back.
> But that was an Emax 1.
> At the time I didn't have an Emax 2.
> I would have to look at the schematic, but I BELIEVE the Emax 1 and 2 the
> RS-422 circuit is the same.
>
> Where I had the "bad" port or a bad cable, the send wouldn't work
> either.....
>
> Regards,
> Ted
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I found a diagnostic guide for Emax but not for Emax 2 on the group's
> files
> > section. I saw a sort of Rs422 in it, is it the same for the Emax 2?
> >
> > I've been reviewing this thread, and I have a question for Ted Summers.
> You
> > wrote you had to remove the modem from your Performa 6214 and a beige G3,
> > am
> > I to assume you were able to transfert samples from them to you Emax?
> >
> >
> > Seriously, guys, am I breaking my balls for nothing? Here is where my
> state
> > of mind is at this moment... And I really need your advice because you've
> > had an Emax for a long time and I haven't.
> >
> > I drive I use in the Emax is a Zip drive, and it works fine. I have a
> pile
> > of disks gathered of the time. I got myself a USB 250 MB Zip drive and I
> > was
> > able to put some banks using EMXP, in a VirtualBox running XP on my
> Macbook
> > pro. That, well, put a doubt in my mind because if EMXP enables me to
> > "dump"
> > samples into a preset on a Zip disk, I have no need for another machine
> > piled up on my desk.
> >
> >
> > Here are the computers and other things I have. I'm looking for
> > suggestions. My goal is to simplify my sample transfers. And I also have
> > other samplers I used to transfert with SCSI from a PC, but that PC needs
> > to
> > be transformed into a NAS. So I'm loosing it... SO I will list those as
> > well.
> >
> > Here it goes:
> >
> > - Powerbook G3 Wallstreet II
> > - Powermac G4 MDD Dual 867, with an Adaptec AHA-2940U Scsi card.
> > - MacBook Pro 15" late 2008.
> > - 250mb USB Zip drive, Zip 100 SCSI on the Emax 2.
> >
> > Samplers
> > - Emax 2, Zip 100 SCSI.
> > - E-Mu E-Synth Classic Dance version, internal 2GB Jaz
> > - Yamaha A3000 V2, internal Zip 100 SCSI
> > - Akai S950 (Floppy, but I'm suppose to get my hands on a SCSI card for
> it
> > from a friend)
> > - Roland S550, External Zip 100.
> >
> > Help....
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:42 PM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > french language error, its written like that in French :-)))
> > > sorry Francis. hope you'll get your setup to work soon!
> > >
> > > Le 1 sept. 2011 � 22:39, Francis Cote a �crit :
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for confirming this. This will add yet another machine to my
> > pile
> > > of
> > > > useless junk! :) Sad, It's a sexy machine.
> > > >
> > > > I know the cable is fine. I tested the resistance many times with my
> > > > multimeter. On the subject, is 4mb of RAM enough to run Alchemy? I'd
> > > prefer
> > > > to find some 030 machine if possible. Would I be ok with any 030
> > machine?
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Why are you writing my name with "�" instead of a "c"? It's a
> > French
> > > > language error! Just messing with you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> **
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> i have a powerbook G3 wallstreet, it doesnt send stuff thru RS422,
> > does
> > > the
> > > >> same than you...
> > > >> i guess you'll have to buy an older powerbook, as said by
> > E-Synthesist,
> > > for
> > > >> some
> > > >> great compatibility the best is really mac SE, or SE/30 (this model
> is
> > > much
> > > >> faster than the SE)
> > > >>
> > > >> Le 1 sept. 2011 � 22:20, Francis Cote a �crit :
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ok...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Number 1 would be consistent other reponses I got. What bothers me
> is
> > > the
> > > >>> fact that I have seen this "complete kit" that includes a
> Wallstreet
> > G3
> > > >>> powerbook and an Emax 2 (they suppposedly worked... That is what I
> > had
> > > >> seen
> > > >>> on Ebay).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Number 2, I have to check because I got my Emax abobut a month
> ago...
> > > So
> > > >> no,
> > > >>> I haven't done that test and I'll have to research this for sure.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'll start with number 2. I don't have a classic Mac to test with
> (I
> > > had
> > > >> a
> > > >>> few, they ended up in 3 feet of water on spring morning. They
> didn't
> > > like
> > > >>> for some reason).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks a lot you guys for the help.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:10 PM, esynthesist <esynthesist@yahoo.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> **
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The problems you have is not really the same as the problem I'm
> > > >> mentioning
> > > >>>> on my website - with some Emax-II the samples sent to the Emax-II
> > > >> through
> > > >>>> RS422 are corrupt, but even then the RS422 communication itself is
> > > >> working
> > > >>>> and a keymap is shown on the screen of Alchemy.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Basically imo there are four possible causes of your problem:
> > > >>>> 1/ The Powerbook's serial port is not 100pct compatible with the
> > Emax
> > > >> RS422
> > > >>>> specs. This is true with many Mac computers, especially later
> > > >> versions...
> > > >>>> the good old mac classic and SE series and some old powerbooks
> (165,
> > > >> 180,
> > > >>>> ...) are known to be the best choice for old Emu samplers.
> > > >>>> 2/ The Emax-II's RS422 port is failing. This can be tested with
> the
> > > >>>> Diagnostics 3 menu in combination with a small DB9 testplug that
> you
> > > >> should
> > > >>>> build (or by wiring some pins as explained in the diagnostics
> guide
> > of
> > > >> the
> > > >>>> Emax-II) --> did you do this test ?
> > > >>>> 3/ The cable is not OK. But that can easily be checked with a
> > > >>>> resistance/multi meter, so this is probably not the issue
> > > >>>> 4/ The setup in Alchemy is not correct. But there's really not a
> lot
> > > to
> > > >> be
> > > >>>> set up :-) Just select Emax-II in Network, and then go to
> > > >>>> Network->Instruments->Edit and make sure RS422 radiobutton is ON
> and
> > > the
> > > >>>> modem port is selected (and plug the cable in the modem port of
> > > course).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> (I'm betting on either 1/ or 2/ !)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ///E-Synthesist
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I can't fiind anything else but OS 2.14 for the Emax 2. I did
> > notice
> > > on
> > > >>>>> emxp.net that there own RS422 transfert program has problems
> with
> > > some
> > > >>>> Emax
> > > >>>>> 2. So, sadly, I guess mine is possibly from that bunch...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hi.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I use the serial port. I've seen at least one Emax 2 being sold
> > with
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>>> same Powerbook and Alchemy.
> > > >>>>>> I'll look for that tweaked OS. I'm using 2.14.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:38 AM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> **
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Hi Fran�is, You must use the modem port with Alchemy,also
> > > >>>>>>> you need to have the latest version of emax os,
> > > >>>>>>> The one upgraded by the Emulator genius that did the EMXP
> > software:
> > > >>>>>>> http://www.emxp.net/
> > > >>>>>>> Some Macintosh computers models built after the Mac SE/30
> models
> > > >>>>>>> (basically any with better processors than 68030) may not have
> > the
> > > >>>> same
> > > >>>>>>> serial ports specs, thats why it might also not recognise the
> > Emax
> > > >>>> even if
> > > >>>>>>> the cable is perfect...
> > > >>>>>>> Try first with the tweaked OS, it works here for me (Emax 1 &
> 2,
> > > Mac
> > > >>>>>>> SE/30, rs422 cable)
> > > >>>>>>> Good luck!
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Le 1 sept. 2011 � 03:20, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> a
> �crit
> > :
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Back from vacation.
> > > >>>>>>>> I've tested the serial port of my powerbook with my serial
> MOTU
> > > Midi
> > > >>>>>>>> timepiece and it works fine.
> > > >>>>>>>> So I guessed it had to be the cable, so i used a functional
> > > miniDin
> > > >>>> 8,
> > > >>>>>>>> clipped one end and soldered the DP9 serial connector. I used
> > the
> > > >>>> pinout
> > > >>>>>>>> indicated on the Emulator Archives site. I checked the
> > continuity
> > > of
> > > >>>>>>> every
> > > >>>>>>>> pin. The cable is theoretically fine.
> > > >>>>>>>> I keep getting "Can't get keyboard map from Emax II" in
> Alchemy.
> > > >>>> Wether
> > > >>>>>>> I
> > > >>>>>>>> try to send or receive I get the same error.
> > > >>>>>>>> There might be something I'm doing wrong either in Alchemy or
> on
> > > the
> > > >>>>>>> Emax...
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Am I suppose to be an a specific module on the Emax? Is there
> a
> > > >>>> setting?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I know Midi sample dump is suppose to work, but it's really
> slow
> > > and
> > > >>>> my
> > > >>>>>>> Emax
> > > >>>>>>>> is not connected in that way (hard to explain, complicated
> > setup.
> > > >>>> Which
> > > >>>>>>> I
> > > >>>>>>>> will change if I really really have no choice...)
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Any help is welcome!
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@
> ...>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I have a Powerbook G3 Wallstreet. I think it should work, no?
> > > >>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:44 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> on some Mac models only the modem port works for high speed
> > > >>>>>>>>> communications as Apple skimped on the port circuitry for the
> > > >>>> printer
> > > >>>>>>> port.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> If you have a modem installed and the modem port is blocked
> > off,
> > > >>>> you
> > > >>>>>>>>> remove the modem and then unblock the modem port and use that
> > > >>>> port.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> But again- that depends on model of Mac.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I know it is true for my 6214 Performa and was also true of
> my
> > > >>>> Beige
> > > >>>>>>> G3
> > > >>>>>>>>> that I had....
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Ted
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> What do you do to make it work?
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:16 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I havent tried my Emax 2, but my Emax 1 works fine.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> It did take a little figuring out.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> But the speed difference from MIDI to 422 made it well
> worth
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>>>> effort.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ted
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Johnny Tomasello wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I haven't gotten this to work either (Emax I SH/HD), but
> use
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>>>> MIDI
> > > >>>>>>>>>> sample dump instead, which that works fine.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I know that wasn't any help to you, but I was wondering if
> > the
> > > >>>>>>> transfer
> > > >>>>>>>>>> rates were any better using the 422?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> J.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Can't get it to work. Anyone managed to make this work? I
> > > >>>> kinda
> > > >>>>>>> think
> > > >>>>>>>>> my
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> cable would be the issue, but I checked the pinouts and
> the
> > > >>>>>>> connections
> > > >>>>>>>>>> are
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> fine.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> My model is a 2mb stereo (2212 I believe).
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Anything I should check?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
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