Emax

for me its the outputs that give the emax sound and the e chip
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: el macaco 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [emax] Re: How can I dither samples to 12 bit for EMAX?


    

  Agree 100%. Transfering samples in sounds good/ok. Sampling in is the business, sounds SO GOOD, over driven, clean, whatever, the ADC is the gold in the Emax for me.


  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  > From: francis.cote@...
  > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:53:24 -0500
  > Subject: Re: [emax] Re: How can I dither samples to 12 bit for EMAX?
  > 
  > It's great you found a solution.
  > 
  > Understand I don't agree or disagree, I just want to take
  > this opportunity to ask others how they feel about what I'm about to write.
  > 
  > I feel that if you are bypassing part of the sampling process of a hardware
  > sampler, be it an Emax, E4, Akai, whatever, you are also bypassing part of
  > the character of the machine as well. This is, again that's me, what makes
  > an Emax an Emax.
  > 
  > What do you people think?
  > 
  > 
  > Francis
  > 
  > 
  > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM, zrennaya <zrennaya@...> wrote:
  > 
  > > **
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Hi!
  > >
  > > Thanks for your input! I gave up on the 12 bit render thing as you
  > > mentioned there's no tool that converts to 12 bits.
  > >
  > > On the other hand I experimented with some dithering types and I actually
  > > managed to reach the quality of factory samples in terms of noise and
  > > aliasing (using the L1). So far I couldn't get that quality from the emax
  > > ADC inputs!
  > >
  > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > there 8bits compressed then the e chip renders the 8bit compressed audio
  > > to 12bit digital output that the dacs render to analog then they go to the
  > > filters
  > > >
  > > > there are no reconstruction filters for aliasing or stepping of the dac
  > > waveforms aand rely on the analog filters to do this
  > > >
  > > > where as most samplers use a reconstruction filter to filter out these
  > > stepped artifacts and aliasing
  > > >
  > > > now the korg dss1 is 12bits but they still use 16bit memory same as the
  > > ensoniq eps just 0 after the 12bits
  > > >
  > > > there is no 12bit convertors if you want the 12bits then you need to use
  > > the internal adc and inputs
  > > >
  > > > as the dump will be 16bits and emxp converts to the 8bit compressed
  > > format
  > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > From: zrennaya
  > > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  > > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:34 PM
  > > > Subject: [emax] How can I dither samples to 12 bit for EMAX?
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Hello to all,
  > > >
  > > > I'm trying to convert my WAV files for the Emax but keep running into
  > > the same issue. I have a mac running Logic which would allow me to bounce
  > > either 8 bit or 16 bit wav but not 12 bit. The Waves L1 plugin does 12 bit
  > > quantize with dither and noise shaping but it's useless, since I can only
  > > bounce the results in either 8 or 16 bits. The problem with this is that
  > > the 8 bit renders are way too lo-fi and the 16 bit ones will automatically
  > > reduce with no dithering in EMXP when I transfer them to EM1 floppys on my
  > > PC and the no-dither artifacts are audible again. This is very audible in
  > > percussive samples. Simply recording them through the Emax input won't help
  > > either..
  > > >
  > > > So I read it on a site about s900 samplers using 12 bit samples that
  > > mixing white noise into the audio at very low levels can actually do the
  > > same as dithering (don't quite understand why), tried that, same results
  > > except I had slightly noisier samples then :)
  > > >
  > > > I'm starting to wonder if Emax uses 12 bit samples at all. It' a little
  > > confusing that it it uses 12 bit audio "stored" in 8 bits, or as I read
  > > somewhere else, it uses 8 bit samples with 12 bit converters?!
  > > >
  > > > If 8 bit is the case, how come I cannot convert premium quality samples,
  > > using great quality dithering and noise shaping to 8 bit and still not get
  > > the cleanness of the factory Emax samples? Or if it's 12 bit, how can I
  > > render my samples to 12 bit and not let EMXP mess up my 16 bit samples?
  > > I've tried some of the Sound Designer installs available here, but couldn't
  > > get them to work on either the mac classic emulator for windows, or
  > > emulators for OSX. It seems like I must have been a programmer to be able
  > > to get them running so I gave up. Does anyone know of alternatives?
  > > >
  > > > Thank you for your attention!
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
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