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Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user

2012-10-05 by jammie

you need the plus os to change scsi id

otherwise it will only see scsi id0 which if you connected the cf drive right that willbe scsi id 0
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Court 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user


    
  so - I have the new slim floppy and CF drives installed......

  I load the OS from floppy (it's the first time I've seen it load), and I
  now get on my screen 'P00 Untitled' and the enter light is flashing.

  I have attached my SCSI Zip100 drive with some Emax II sounds on those
  disks, but I can't seem to select the drive ('Drive Select' button does
  nothing). It's definitely a SCSI zip (it has the 5/6 selector and the
  termination switch).

  Any ideas how to load the sounds from the SCSI zip drive?

  On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Tony Court <anthony.court@...> wrote:

  > Thanks Ted - JM-215A mods completed..... time to fabricate some brackets
  > and get everything in place :)
  >
  >
  > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
  >
  >> The screwholes on the bottom of the PCD drive match the original floppy
  >> exactly.
  >> However, the thread is different, if I recall.
  >> For mounting you get some flat metal and drill the holes.
  >> The holes front to back are the same for slim and PCD.
  >> The distance is .9 inches up, center to center of the holes on the side
  >> of the PCD drive.
  >>
  >> Slim floppy drives use 2.6MM screws.
  >> They are used in RC cars also.
  >> Duratrax makes a kit of screws.
  >> Use the shortest screws on the front.
  >> If they are put in too far, they will make the disk appear out of
  >> alignment and you will get CRC errors and the disk may not easily eject.
  >> So use 3 washers on the outside of the metal bracket to keep the screws
  >> from going in too far.
  >>
  >> As to spacers- use some washers or fab them from metal or nylon or use
  >> some small nuts.
  >>
  >> There isn't anything pre-made for it- you just have to fabricate it.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Tony Court wrote:
  >>
  >> So..... I now have all the parts required for the slim floppy and cf
  >> upgrade, including a 2nd JM-215A (just in case!). Hopefully I'll get a
  >> chance to complete this upgrade tomorrow.
  >>
  >> Do you have any recommendations for how to position and secure both
  >> drives? The Teac floppy drive is narrower than the PCD-50B. All the pics on
  >> Teds website show the floppy on top. How are they secured to each other and
  >> then to the original floppy drive mounting?
  >>
  >> Thanks
  >>
  >> Tony
  >>
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >>
  >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 22:29, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
  >>
  >> > TEAC FD-05 for slim floppy- check ebay.
  >> > JM-215A to convert it for use with Emax
  >> > Instructions for modification at my website.
  >> > PCD-50b using the PC- Card slot for whatever flash media you choose.
  >> > 32MB flash media.
  >> >
  >> > Again- see my website.
  >> > http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/
  >> >
  >> >
  >> > On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, sofad_1999 wrote:
  >> >
  >> > any idea where to purchase them from/instructions/part numbers etc? I'm
  >> confident I can do the work, just unsure what parts to get and how to
  >> install.
  >> >
  >> > thanks again
  >> >
  >> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  >> >>
  >> >> i would not bother that get your self a slimfloppy and cf drive
  >> >>
  >> >> the costing wont be much different
  >> >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> >> From: Tony Court
  >> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:57 PM
  >> >> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
  >> >>
  >> >>
  >> >>
  >> >> I had already tried a floppy boot with the HD disconnected :(
  >> >>
  >> >> I'm going to take the plunge and order a new floppy drive from
  >> route66studios and see if that fixes things.
  >> >>
  >> >> I'll report back when I've tested it :)
  >> >>
  >> >> Thanks again for your help.
  >> >>
  >> >> Tony
  >> >>
  >> >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 9:55, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  >> >>
  >> >>> sounds like you got a dud floppy drive and a bad scsi drive
  >> >>>
  >> >>> as the person who owned it before if there was a scsi drive would of
  >> definetly put the os on it
  >> >>>
  >> >>> have you tried removing the scsi cable
  >> >>>
  >> >>> and seeing if the floppy will boot as the hard drive could be on
  >> constant seek which would stop the floppy drive from booting
  >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
  >> >>> From: Tony Court
  >> >>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:50 PM
  >> >>> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
  >> >>>
  >> >>> So..... I have cleaned the floppy drive and tried again with both the
  >> OS floppy in (the original E-mu disk and the 2 I made using emxp), I also
  >> tried with no floppy disk inserted (but the floppy drive still connected)
  >> to see if it would boot from HD.
  >> >>>
  >> >>> Unfortunately I still get exactly the same errors. Both the floppy
  >> and the hard drive are clicking/spinning up, so they have power.
  >> >>>
  >> >>> I was aware that the floppies needed to be DD, not HD, and covered up
  >> the relevant holes.
  >> >>>
  >> >>> Is there a way to confirm that SCSI is working? Could that be the
  >> issue? Or should I go for a replacement floppy drive? I'm a bit stuck now :(
  >> >>>
  >> >>> I look forward to your replies!
  >> >>>
  >> >>> Tony
  >> >>>
  >> >>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 7:51, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
  >> >>>
  >> >>>> Emax 1 / 2 requires the floppy drive to be attached.
  >> >>>> You can't not have a floppy drive unless you jumper the floppy
  >> connector-
  >> >>>> that will definitely prevent a successful boot.
  >> >>>> As to the floppy, you can create a new one with EMX (DOS) or EMXP
  >> utilities
  >> >>>> and try and boot from it.
  >> >>>> You may wish to use this existing floppy as it was probably
  >> formatted by
  >> >>>> Emax initially and write the OS to it with one of the utilities.
  >> >>>>
  >> >>>> Also, please note that Emax uses DSDD not DSHD disks.
  >> >>>> So you have to use either DSDD or cover the hole which indicates
  >> >>>> High-density disk.
  >> >>>>
  >> >>>> or you can also buy an Emax OS floppy disk off ebay if the above
  >> doesn't
  >> >>>> work for you.
  >> >>>>
  >> >>>> Regards,
  >> >>>> Ted
  >> >>>>
  >> >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Tony Court <anthony.court@...>
  >> wrote:
  >> >>>>
  >> >>>>> Hi Jammie and thanks for the info.
  >> >>>>>
  >> >>>>> I'm sure at some stage during my testing I tried just the HD
  >> connected and
  >> >>>>> was getting the same issue..... I will test again tonight and let
  >> you know.
  >> >>>>>
  >> >>>>> If the HD does not have the OS installed, and the Floppy drive is
  >> fried....
  >> >>>>> do you have any recommendations on how to get the OS onto the HD? I
  >> >>>>> currently have no way of connecting the 50-pin SCSI to my computer,
  >> but am
  >> >>>>> willing to purchase PCI-E cards etc if the price is right ;)
  >> >>>>>
  >> >>>>> Thanks again for your help so far and I'll let you know about the
  >> OS on the
  >> >>>>> HD when I get home tonight.
  >> >>>>>
  >> >>>>> I also have a zip100 drive that I have yet to play with, and 2 zip
  >> disks
  >> >>>>> full of sounds. Not sure if the OS might be on one of the zip disks
  >> as
  >> >>>>> well?
  >> >>>>>
  >> >>>>> Tony
  >> >>>>>
  >> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:57 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...
  >> >>>>>> wrote:
  >> >>>>>
  >> >>>>>> **
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> if it has an internal drive that should have the os on it and
  >> should boot
  >> >>>>>> from the hd
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> dont put a disk in the floppydrive and just have the hd load os
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> disk not formated means that the floppy drive is being seen and is
  >> doing
  >> >>>>> a
  >> >>>>>> floppy read when it comes up as not formated its either a bad disk
  >> or the
  >> >>>>>> floppy drive is shot
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> do try the cleaning kit first as it can just need a good clean
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> which i have had todo on a number of old floppy drives
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> none of the buttons will be functional until the os is present
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
  >> >>>>>> From: sofad_1999
  >> >>>>>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:59 AM
  >> >>>>>> Subject: [emax] New Emax II user
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> Hi all,
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> I just got a cheap Emax II 2212 model, and am currently wondering
  >> if it
  >> >>>>>> wasn't such a good deal after all....
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> FYI - It has a 250mb Apple SCSI drive inside, and the original SCSI
  >> >>>>> floppy
  >> >>>>>> drive.
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> I have the original 2.14 OS disk, and I have also created
  >> additional 2.14
  >> >>>>>> OS disks using EMXP
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> When I power on the Emax II with the OS floppy disk in the drive I
  >> get
  >> >>>>> the
  >> >>>>>> following messages:
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> Checking Floppy
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> Loading Software
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> Disk Not Formatted
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> and then a loop of Loading Software/Disk Not Formatted
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> I can hear the floppy drive clicking every 10-15 seconds. I get red
  >> >>>>> lights
  >> >>>>>> on STOP and RECORD.
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> None of the buttons are functional.
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> I have tried disconnecting the internal Hard Drive to see if that
  >> makes a
  >> >>>>>> difference and nothing changes. I have also tried disconnecting the
  >> >>>>> Floppy
  >> >>>>>> to see if it will boot from the HD, and again nothing.
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what may be the
  >> problem?
  >> >>>>>> I have a floppy drive cleaning kit on order, just in case... and am
  >> >>>>>> prepared to splash out on a new floppy drive if that is definitely
  >> the
  >> >>>>>> problem.
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> Thanks
  >> >>>>>>
  >> >>>>>> Tony
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