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Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user

2012-10-05 by Tony Court

But (and I may just not understand things correctly as this is my first
Emax II) NONE of the buttons are responsive.

I currently have JUST the floppy and external Zip 100  connected (for
testing), no CF, no internal HD. With no floppy in the drive, it cycles
through 'Checking SCSI 1-7 but does not boot. With the floppy inserted (OS
2.14) it boots up and displays P00 Untitled, the enter button flashes, and
none of the buttons are responsive.

Are you saying that if I make another OS floppy disk using EMXP and the
emaxplus10.zip from the groups files section, it should boot to the 'plus'
OS, the buttons will become responsive, and I can then manually select to
load sounds from the external zip drive? (SCSI 5)

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> you need the plus os to change scsi id
>
> otherwise it will only see scsi id0 which if you connected the cf drive
> right that willbe scsi id 0
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Court
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user
>
> so - I have the new slim floppy and CF drives installed......
>
> I load the OS from floppy (it's the first time I've seen it load), and I
> now get on my screen 'P00 Untitled' and the enter light is flashing.
>
> I have attached my SCSI Zip100 drive with some Emax II sounds on those
> disks, but I can't seem to select the drive ('Drive Select' button does
> nothing). It's definitely a SCSI zip (it has the 5/6 selector and the
> termination switch).
>
> Any ideas how to load the sounds from the SCSI zip drive?
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Tony Court <anthony.court@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Ted - JM-215A mods completed..... time to fabricate some brackets
> > and get everything in place :)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >
> >> The screwholes on the bottom of the PCD drive match the original floppy
> >> exactly.
> >> However, the thread is different, if I recall.
> >> For mounting you get some flat metal and drill the holes.
> >> The holes front to back are the same for slim and PCD.
> >> The distance is .9 inches up, center to center of the holes on the side
> >> of the PCD drive.
> >>
> >> Slim floppy drives use 2.6MM screws.
> >> They are used in RC cars also.
> >> Duratrax makes a kit of screws.
> >> Use the shortest screws on the front.
> >> If they are put in too far, they will make the disk appear out of
> >> alignment and you will get CRC errors and the disk may not easily eject.
> >> So use 3 washers on the outside of the metal bracket to keep the screws
> >> from going in too far.
> >>
> >> As to spacers- use some washers or fab them from metal or nylon or use
> >> some small nuts.
> >>
> >> There isn't anything pre-made for it- you just have to fabricate it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Tony Court wrote:
> >>
> >> So..... I now have all the parts required for the slim floppy and cf
> >> upgrade, including a 2nd JM-215A (just in case!). Hopefully I'll get a
> >> chance to complete this upgrade tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Do you have any recommendations for how to position and secure both
> >> drives? The Teac floppy drive is narrower than the PCD-50B. All the
> pics on
> >> Teds website show the floppy on top. How are they secured to each other
> and
> >> then to the original floppy drive mounting?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 22:29, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> > TEAC FD-05 for slim floppy- check ebay.
> >> > JM-215A to convert it for use with Emax
> >> > Instructions for modification at my website.
> >> > PCD-50b using the PC- Card slot for whatever flash media you choose.
> >> > 32MB flash media.
> >> >
> >> > Again- see my website.
> >> > http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, sofad_1999 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > any idea where to purchase them from/instructions/part numbers etc?
> I'm
> >> confident I can do the work, just unsure what parts to get and how to
> >> install.
> >> >
> >> > thanks again
> >> >
> >> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> i would not bother that get your self a slimfloppy and cf drive
> >> >>
> >> >> the costing wont be much different
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: Tony Court
> >> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:57 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I had already tried a floppy boot with the HD disconnected :(
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm going to take the plunge and order a new floppy drive from
> >> route66studios and see if that fixes things.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll report back when I've tested it :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again for your help.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tony
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 9:55, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> sounds like you got a dud floppy drive and a bad scsi drive
> >> >>>
> >> >>> as the person who owned it before if there was a scsi drive would of
> >> definetly put the os on it
> >> >>>
> >> >>> have you tried removing the scsi cable
> >> >>>
> >> >>> and seeing if the floppy will boot as the hard drive could be on
> >> constant seek which would stop the floppy drive from booting
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: Tony Court
> >> >>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:50 PM
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So..... I have cleaned the floppy drive and tried again with both
> the
> >> OS floppy in (the original E-mu disk and the 2 I made using emxp), I
> also
> >> tried with no floppy disk inserted (but the floppy drive still
> connected)
> >> to see if it would boot from HD.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Unfortunately I still get exactly the same errors. Both the floppy
> >> and the hard drive are clicking/spinning up, so they have power.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I was aware that the floppies needed to be DD, not HD, and covered
> up
> >> the relevant holes.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is there a way to confirm that SCSI is working? Could that be the
> >> issue? Or should I go for a replacement floppy drive? I'm a bit stuck
> now :(
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I look forward to your replies!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Tony
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 7:51, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Emax 1 / 2 requires the floppy drive to be attached.
> >> >>>> You can't not have a floppy drive unless you jumper the floppy
> >> connector-
> >> >>>> that will definitely prevent a successful boot.
> >> >>>> As to the floppy, you can create a new one with EMX (DOS) or EMXP
> >> utilities
> >> >>>> and try and boot from it.
> >> >>>> You may wish to use this existing floppy as it was probably
> >> formatted by
> >> >>>> Emax initially and write the OS to it with one of the utilities.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Also, please note that Emax uses DSDD not DSHD disks.
> >> >>>> So you have to use either DSDD or cover the hole which indicates
> >> >>>> High-density disk.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> or you can also buy an Emax OS floppy disk off ebay if the above
> >> doesn't
> >> >>>> work for you.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Regards,
> >> >>>> Ted
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Tony Court <anthony.court@...>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi Jammie and thanks for the info.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I'm sure at some stage during my testing I tried just the HD
> >> connected and
> >> >>>>> was getting the same issue..... I will test again tonight and let
> >> you know.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> If the HD does not have the OS installed, and the Floppy drive is
> >> fried....
> >> >>>>> do you have any recommendations on how to get the OS onto the HD?
> I
> >> >>>>> currently have no way of connecting the 50-pin SCSI to my
> computer,
> >> but am
> >> >>>>> willing to purchase PCI-E cards etc if the price is right ;)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Thanks again for your help so far and I'll let you know about the
> >> OS on the
> >> >>>>> HD when I get home tonight.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I also have a zip100 drive that I have yet to play with, and 2 zip
> >> disks
> >> >>>>> full of sounds. Not sure if the OS might be on one of the zip
> disks
> >> as
> >> >>>>> well?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Tony
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:57 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> **
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> if it has an internal drive that should have the os on it and
> >> should boot
> >> >>>>>> from the hd
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> dont put a disk in the floppydrive and just have the hd load os
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> disk not formated means that the floppy drive is being seen and
> is
> >> doing
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>>> floppy read when it comes up as not formated its either a bad
> disk
> >> or the
> >> >>>>>> floppy drive is shot
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> do try the cleaning kit first as it can just need a good clean
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> which i have had todo on a number of old floppy drives
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> none of the buttons will be functional until the os is present
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>>> From: sofad_1999
> >> >>>>>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:59 AM
> >> >>>>>> Subject: [emax] New Emax II user
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I just got a cheap Emax II 2212 model, and am currently wondering
> >> if it
> >> >>>>>> wasn't such a good deal after all....
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> FYI - It has a 250mb Apple SCSI drive inside, and the original
> SCSI
> >> >>>>> floppy
> >> >>>>>> drive.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I have the original 2.14 OS disk, and I have also created
> >> additional 2.14
> >> >>>>>> OS disks using EMXP
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> When I power on the Emax II with the OS floppy disk in the drive
> I
> >> get
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>>> following messages:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Checking Floppy
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Loading Software
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Disk Not Formatted
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> and then a loop of Loading Software/Disk Not Formatted
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I can hear the floppy drive clicking every 10-15 seconds. I get
> red
> >> >>>>> lights
> >> >>>>>> on STOP and RECORD.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> None of the buttons are functional.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I have tried disconnecting the internal Hard Drive to see if that
> >> makes a
> >> >>>>>> difference and nothing changes. I have also tried disconnecting
> the
> >> >>>>> Floppy
> >> >>>>>> to see if it will boot from the HD, and again nothing.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what may be the
> >> problem?
> >> >>>>>> I have a floppy drive cleaning kit on order, just in case... and
> am
> >> >>>>>> prepared to splash out on a new floppy drive if that is
> definitely
> >> the
> >> >>>>>> problem.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Thanks
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Tony
> >> >>>>>>
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