Emax

haven't heard back from anyone yet, has anyone been able to 
successfully update their Emax to SE status with Carsten's SE Upgrade 
Disk image? Please let us know.

I'd like to know this too..

Is it true that once you move to SE, you can upgrade to Plus 1.0 
just by having the 1.0 OS on a floppy?



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "John" <emaxjs@s...> wrote:
> haven't heard back from anyone yet, has anyone been able to 
> successfully update their Emax to SE status with Carsten's SE 
Upgrade 
> Disk image? Please let us know.

I'm pretty sure you need an SE HD model. The major change in it was the ability to 
select the SCSI ID for bank loads. Which would indicate it was intended for HD models.

On 24 Feb 2004 at 19:12, tbiggz spoke unto me:

> I'd like to know this too..
> 
> Is it true that once you move to SE, you can upgrade to Plus 1.0 just
> by having the 1.0 OS on a floppy?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "John" <emaxjs@s...> wrote:
> > haven't heard back from anyone yet, has anyone been able to 
> > successfully update their Emax to SE status with Carsten's SE 
> Upgrade 
> > Disk image? Please let us know.
> 
> 
> 
> Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
> 
> http://www.silveriafamily.com 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 



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I think that the emax HD (later model) could be upgraded to plus 1.0 
right?

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "John Silveria" <emaxjs@s...> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure you need an SE HD model. The major change in it was 
the ability to 
> select the SCSI ID for bank loads. Which would indicate it was 
intended for HD models.
> 
> On 24 Feb 2004 at 19:12, tbiggz spoke unto me:
> 
> > I'd like to know this too..
> > 
> > Is it true that once you move to SE, you can upgrade to Plus 1.0 
just
> > by having the 1.0 OS on a floppy?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "John" <emaxjs@s...> wrote:
> > > haven't heard back from anyone yet, has anyone been able to 
> > > successfully update their Emax to SE status with Carsten's SE 
> > Upgrade 
> > > Disk image? Please let us know.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
> > 
> > http://www.silveriafamily.com 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> **************************John Silveria 
II****************************
>                    AIM & Yahoo! Messenger: EmaxJS
>                         MSN: emaxjs@h...
> The Silveria Family Website & Emax and Emax II User's Group
> ------------------ http://www.silveriafamily.com 
----------------------

Hi,
I far as I can tell SE or SE HD owners can run OS Plus, however you will
need SCSI implemented in hardware for the OS Plus to be of any use. This
means the right PAL chips and Boot ROM and a 5380 SCSI chip, etc. Base SE
models are unlikely to have this fitted (although some may).

I don't believe non-SE users can upgrade to OS Plus without going to SE
first.

Regards
Rob

  Is it true that once you move to SE, you can upgrade to Plus 1.0
  just by having the 1.0 OS on a floppy?



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I mean to say that with the SE upgrade image in the files section,
an emax HD (with the right parts inside i.e. a later model) could be 
upgrade to emax HD SE.

Which then could use a plus 1.0 os on the HD to act as a plus player. 

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Keeble" <rob@e...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I far as I can tell SE or SE HD owners can run OS Plus, however you 
will
> need SCSI implemented in hardware for the OS Plus to be of any use. 
This
> means the right PAL chips and Boot ROM and a 5380 SCSI chip, etc. 
Base SE
> models are unlikely to have this fitted (although some may).
> 
> I don't believe non-SE users can upgrade to OS Plus without going 
to SE

> first.
> 
> Regards
> Rob
> 
>   Is it true that once you move to SE, you can upgrade to Plus 1.0
>   just by having the 1.0 OS on a floppy?
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Not sure how Rob's answer wasn't what you were looking for so I'll take a go at it.

No one has reported back as to whether they have been able to upgrade an Emax of 
any model to SE with Carsten's image. Though the utility to make the upgrade disk is in 
the Files section, the actual disk image is not. Carsten are you going to upload that as 
well?  

AFAIK. the SE Upgrade disk works on both HD and Non-HD versions, once the upgrade 
is complete and you reboot your Emax you would have to make sure that you have the 
correct SE OS for it to boot off of. I've never seen mention of both a SE HD Upgrade 
disk and a separate SE only Upgrade disk. 

So if the upgrade image actually works (still waiting to hear back from other the people 
who were going to try) then the answer to your question would be Yes. An Emax HD 
would become an Emax SE HD and from there you could move up to Emax SE HD Plus 
by simply switching to the Plus OS.

Does that answer it for you?

On 25 Feb 2004 at 19:53, tbiggz spoke unto me:

> I mean to say that with the SE upgrade image in the files section, an
> emax HD (with the right parts inside i.e. a later model) could be
> upgrade to emax HD SE.
> 
> Which then could use a plus 1.0 os on the HD to act as a plus player. 
> 
> I far as I can tell SE or SE HD owners can run OS Plus, however you will
> need SCSI implemented in hardware for the OS Plus to be of any use. This
> means the right PAL chips and Boot ROM and a 5380 SCSI chip, etc. Base SE
> models are unlikely to have this fitted (although some may).  I don't believe
> non-SE users can upgrade to OS Plus without going to SE first. Regards Rob  

> Is it true that once you move to SE, you can upgrade to Plus 1.0 just by
> having the 1.0 OS on a floppy? 


**************************John Silveria II****************************
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                        MSN: emaxjs@...
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------------------ http://www.silveriafamily.com ----------------------

Hi all,

the disc image is in the Files section. Please let me if it works.

Carsten

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "John Silveria" <emaxjs@s...> wrote:
> Not sure how Rob's answer wasn't what you were looking for so I'll 
take a go at it.
> 
> No one has reported back as to whether they have been able to 
upgrade an Emax of 
> any model to SE with Carsten's image. Though the utility to make 
the upgrade disk is in 
> the Files section, the actual disk image is not. Carsten are you 
going to upload that as 
> well?  
> 
> AFAIK. the SE Upgrade disk works on both HD and Non-HD versions, 
once the upgrade 
> is complete and you reboot your Emax you would have to make sure 
that you have the 
> correct SE OS for it to boot off of. I've never seen mention of 
both a SE HD Upgrade 
> disk and a separate SE only Upgrade disk. 
> 
> So if the upgrade image actually works (still waiting to hear back 
from other the people 
> who were going to try) then the answer to your question would be 
Yes. An Emax HD 
> would become an Emax SE HD and from there you could move up to Emax 
SE HD Plus 
> by simply switching to the Plus OS.
> 
> Does that answer it for you?
> 
> On 25 Feb 2004 at 19:53, tbiggz spoke unto me:
> 
> > I mean to say that with the SE upgrade image in the files 
section, an
> > emax HD (with the right parts inside i.e. a later model) could be
> > upgrade to emax HD SE.
> > 
> > Which then could use a plus 1.0 os on the HD to act as a plus 
player. 
> > 
> > I far as I can tell SE or SE HD owners can run OS Plus, however 
you will
> > need SCSI implemented in hardware for the OS Plus to be of any 
use. This
> > means the right PAL chips and Boot ROM and a 5380 SCSI chip, etc. 
Base SE
> > models are unlikely to have this fitted (although some may).  I 
don't believe
> > non-SE users can upgrade to OS Plus without going to SE first. 
Regards Rob  
> 
> > Is it true that once you move to SE, you can upgrade to Plus 1.0 
just by
> > having the 1.0 OS on a floppy? 
> 
> 
> **************************John Silveria 
II****************************
>                    AIM & Yahoo! Messenger: EmaxJS
>                         MSN: emaxjs@h...
> The Silveria Family Website & Emax and Emax II User's Group
> ------------------ http://www.silveriafamily.com -------------------
---

It works!  I updated my Emax to Emax SE with the image file Carsten 
so kindly provided in the files section.  Here is the method I used 
to get it done (other methods may work, but this is how I did it):

!! REMEMBER, EMAXUTIL *REQUIRES* DOS OPERATING SYSTEM TO WORK !!
!! DO NOT USE EMAXUTIL IN WINDOWS OR WINDOWS "DOS" BOX !!
!! IT MAY "APPEAR" TO WORK IN WINDOWS, BUT FILES MAY BE CORRUPT !!

First, I made a MS-DOS 6.22 floppy boot diskette.  Then, because I 
don't have two floppy drives in my computer, I formatted an extra 
hard drive I had with the FAT file system (not FAT32 or NTFS) because 
MS-DOS 6.22 can read a FAT disc but not the others.  If you happen to 
have two floppy drives in your computer, you can just use those and 
bypass any hard drive stuff.

I copied the files "emaxutil.exe" and "seup.em1" to the hard drive.  
These are now the only two files on the entire hard drive.

[IMPORTANT NOTE: You must first format a 720k Double Density diskette 
in your Emax before writing the image file to it.  I tried writing to 
a DOS formatted 720k Double Density diskette and Emax would only 
respond with "Disk Error".  I then formatted a floppy in the Emax, 
then proceeded to use that diskette with Emaxutil, and it worked 
great.]

Booted the computer using the MS-DOS 6.22 floppy boot diskette.  
Changed to the hard drive (drive C:) and then removed the MS-DOS 6.22 
diskette from my computer and inserted the blank Emax-formatted 
diskette.  I ran emaxutil.exe, and had it do it's writing to the 
floppy diskettein drive A:.  This took a couple of minutes but not 
too long.

When Emaxutil was finished, I removed the floppy diskette from my 
computer and inserted it into the Emax.  I turned on the Emax and it 
began loading the bank.  After loading everything, it displayed a 
message saying something like "SE Update Complete, Please Reboot"

I turned the Emax off, then back on after a few seconds.  It loaded 
the bank on the diskette.  Everything appears to work great.  The 
software version my Emax reports is now "Emax SE rev 1.1"

Thanks Carsten for providing the update image.  If anyone else has 
success or failure, please post your results in this forum.  I'm 
curious to see how others get along.

midi_patchbay



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "carsten_ender" <carsten_ender@y...> 
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> the disc image is in the Files section. Please let me if it works.
> 
> Carsten
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "John Silveria" <emaxjs@s...> wrote:
> > Not sure how Rob's answer wasn't what you were looking for so 
I'll 
> take a go at it.
> > 
> > No one has reported back as to whether they have been able to 
> upgrade an Emax of 
> > any model to SE with Carsten's image. Though the utility to make 
> the upgrade disk is in 
> > the Files section, the actual disk image is not. Carsten are you 
> going to upload that as 
> > well?  
> > 
> > AFAIK. the SE Upgrade disk works on both HD and Non-HD versions, 
> once the upgrade 
> > is complete and you reboot your Emax you would have to make sure 
> that you have the 
> > correct SE OS for it to boot off of. I've never seen mention of 
> both a SE HD Upgrade 
> > disk and a separate SE only Upgrade disk. 
> > 
> > So if the upgrade image actually works (still waiting to hear 
back 
> from other the people 
> > who were going to try) then the answer to your question would be 
> Yes. An Emax HD 
> > would become an Emax SE HD and from there you could move up to 
Emax 
> SE HD Plus 
> > by simply switching to the Plus OS.
> > 
> > Does that answer it for you?
> > 
> > On 25 Feb 2004 at 19:53, tbiggz spoke unto me:
> > 
> > > I mean to say that with the SE upgrade image in the files 
> section, an
> > > emax HD (with the right parts inside i.e. a later model) could 
be
> > > upgrade to emax HD SE.
> > > 
> > > Which then could use a plus 1.0 os on the HD to act as a plus 
> player. 
> > > 
> > > I far as I can tell SE or SE HD owners can run OS Plus, however 
> you will
> > > need SCSI implemented in hardware for the OS Plus to be of any 
> use. This
> > > means the right PAL chips and Boot ROM and a 5380 SCSI chip, 
etc. 
> Base SE
> > > models are unlikely to have this fitted (although some may).  I 
> don't believe
> > > non-SE users can upgrade to OS Plus without going to SE first. 
> Regards Rob  
> > 
> > > Is it true that once you move to SE, you can upgrade to Plus 
1.0 
> just by
> > > having the 1.0 OS on a floppy? 
> > 
> > 
> > **************************John Silveria 
> II****************************
> >                    AIM & Yahoo! Messenger: EmaxJS
> >                         MSN: emaxjs@h...
> > The Silveria Family Website & Emax and Emax II User's Group
> > ------------------ http://www.silveriafamily.com -----------------
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