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im sad dam

im sad dam

2004-05-20 by milkyemx

oki i got some strange faliure on the samples anywyay shit!
i have to try in dos again then ,no im not gonna post more..
for a wile srry for all post :(
Milky

Re: [emax] im sad dam

2004-05-21 by mr julian

From: "milkyemx" <doepfer@...>

> oki i got some strange faliure on the samples anywyay shit!
> i have to try in dos again then ,no im not gonna post more..

Yeah... the problem with just using a DOS window in a modern version of
windows is it *looks* like it's working..... till you actually load up the
samples on the emax, then sometimes they're missing or corrups or it just
doesn't load properly...... Unfortunately you need a proper version of DOS
running to use EMX properly - ie DOS6...  Speaking of which, wasn't somebody
talking about making a bootable CD with DOS6 on it??? That would be nice....
Of course, then you'd also need an old FAT16 HDD on your computer to save
disk images to.

oooh.. now I'm thinking of it, a DOS6 CD, with drivers for a zip drive and a
zip cart formatted at FAT16 (if such a thing exists!) would really be the
perfect solution, outside of a modern emax disk utility.... how's the
chicken systems translator EMAX compatability coming along?????

> for a wile srry for all post :(
>
hey thats OK!!! asking questions or just talking stuff out as you do it is
how you learn.



julian

Re: [emax] im sad dam

2004-05-21 by Bob Conner

Floppy disks and Zip disks are actually FAT12.


But the file format of your PC HD would not matter
(FAT 16, 32, NTFS, etc...)
FAT (File Allocation Table) merely keeps track of
where the data is stored and how the drive is
sectioned off into liitle parts (formatted).

The your data when copied from a floppy from HD or HD
to floppy remains intact, it's just stored under a
different file system.
So you should be able to copy the files back and forth
on your PC no problem (data not altered).

The problem is that Windows does not format a DD
floppy in a manner that the Emax OS can understand the
filing system.
The Emax can understand DOS formatted disks.
Why? Because there are minor variations in how a disk
can be formatted.

There are different parameters that can be used when
formatting a disk. Sometimes you have parameter
choices (switches that can be useed) from a command
line (like older versions of DOS), or in windows
little or none. 
Different operating systems also format using
different default parameters, for example: an Atari ST
uses DD floppy disks, but to be able to swap them back
and forth between a Windows machine you need to use
special formatting utilities so that the disks are
compatible with both OS's.

FYI, according to text books, IBM compatible computers
never came with a DD/DS drive. They went straight from
single sided to HD (skipping DD/DS). However, I came
accross an old IBM (model 30?) that did in fact come
from the factory with a DD drive. Old Epson computers
came with DD drives (so if you see any Epsons, you
might want to scavange the drives).

I've haerd of some Unix like utilities that can be run
from Windows, perhaps one of those could be used to
format a DD floppy that's compatible with the Emax OS
(?). Or maybe Linux. Has anyone tried this?

Also...why can't you just format the floppies in the
Emax, and then pop them in to the PC, and then copy
the files over with emx? 


Bob


--- mr julian <jujulilianan@...> wrote:
> From: "milkyemx" <doepfer@...>
> 
> > oki i got some strange faliure on the samples
> anywyay shit!
> > i have to try in dos again then ,no im not gonna
> post more..
> 
> Yeah... the problem with just using a DOS window in
> a modern version of
> windows is it *looks* like it's working..... till
> you actually load up the
> samples on the emax, then sometimes they're missing
> or corrups or it just
> doesn't load properly...... Unfortunately you need a
> proper version of DOS
> running to use EMX properly - ie DOS6...  Speaking
> of which, wasn't somebody
> talking about making a bootable CD with DOS6 on
> it??? That would be nice....
> Of course, then you'd also need an old FAT16 HDD on
> your computer to save
> disk images to.
> 
> oooh.. now I'm thinking of it, a DOS6 CD, with
> drivers for a zip drive and a
> zip cart formatted at FAT16 (if such a thing
> exists!) would really be the
> perfect solution, outside of a modern emax disk
> utility.... how's the
> chicken systems translator EMAX compatability coming
> along?????
> 
> > for a wile srry for all post :(
> >
> hey thats OK!!! asking questions or just talking
> stuff out as you do it is
> how you learn.
> 
> 
> 
> julian
> 
> 
> 
> 



	
		
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Getting Emax II samples into a Mac

2004-05-21 by Heather Perkins

(I almost deleted all the "im sad dam" posts because I thought they 
were Spams using "I'm Saddam" as a tagline--funny!)


I am coming into the forum with a problem - I have a ton of old Emax II 
floppies full of smaples, but no Emax II.  I'm on a Mac. I want to get 
my old sample banks transferred or converted in some usable way--WAV, 
.aif, whatever.

I have heard that there are Windows/PC utilities that can transfer EMAX 
II sample banks from an EMax formatted floppy to a PC. Can anyone help 
me? There are some internet cafes and such around here that have older 
PCs, so I should be able to find one with a floppy drive and internet 
access to download the needed apps.

I suppose, failing all this, I could just find someone in town with an 
Emax II and transfer the sounds some other way. Any ideas on that? 
(short of just re-sampling them with an audio connection, which I think 
I can figure out myself)

I am just starting my search, but there are some sounds I created in he 
past that I would love to have access to.

Thanks!

- Heather

PS - If there are any people on this list that have an Emax II and are 
based in Portland OR, let me know.


Heather Perkins - WaterDog Studio
http://www.waterdogstudio.com

Re: [emax] Getting Emax II samples into a Mac

2004-05-21 by Lifelike

Hi Heather

You can try Alchemy II from Passport Software on mac, he has the ability to
transfer samples from Emax II and even Emax I.
The software was discontinued because P.Software went down in 1996. You need
to have a SCSI card on your mac, better is to have an old Mac, or send
samples thru midi interface but its fucking slow this way... It works only
on os 9, 8 or even 7.5.3.
I'm not living in Portland, but in Paris / France, if  U cant find it we can
try to find another solution... ;-p
cheers

Laurent

De : Heather Perkins <heatherperkins@...>
Répondre à : emax@...m
Date : Fri, 21 May 2004 08:11:29 -0700
À : emax@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [emax] Getting Emax II samples into a Mac


(I almost deleted all the "im sad dam" posts because I thought they
were Spams using "I'm Saddam" as a tagline--funny!)


I am coming into the forum with a problem - I have a ton of old Emax II
floppies full of smaples, but no Emax II.  I'm on a Mac. I want to get
my old sample banks transferred or converted in some usable way--WAV,
.aif, whatever.

I have heard that there are Windows/PC utilities that can transfer EMAX
II sample banks from an EMax formatted floppy to a PC. Can anyone help
me? There are some internet cafes and such around here that have older
PCs, so I should be able to find one with a floppy drive and internet
access to download the needed apps.

I suppose, failing all this, I could just find someone in town with an
Emax II and transfer the sounds some other way. Any ideas on that?
(short of just re-sampling them with an audio connection, which I think
I can figure out myself)

I am just starting my search, but there are some sounds I created in he
past that I would love to have access to.

Thanks!

- Heather

PS - If there are any people on this list that have an Emax II and are
based in Portland OR, let me know.


Heather Perkins - WaterDog Studio
http://www.waterdogstudio.com



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Re: [emax] Getting Emax II samples into a Mac

2004-05-21 by Heather Perkins

I still have a copy of Alchemy! It was one of the best audio programs 
for the Mac, and I still miss the pitch bend envelope!
I also have an old laptop running OS8, so there's hope....

Thanks for the info, I'd forgotten about that option.

- H


On May 21, 2004, at 10:15 AM, Lifelike wrote:

> Hi Heather
>
> You can try Alchemy II from Passport Software on mac, he has the 
> ability to
> transfer samples from Emax II and even Emax I.
> The software was discontinued because P.Software went down in 1996. 
> You need
> to have a SCSI card on your mac, better is to have an old Mac, or send
> samples thru midi interface but its fucking slow this way... It works 
> only
> on os 9, 8 or even 7.5.3.
> I'm not living in Portland, but in Paris / France, if  U cant find it 
> we can
> try to find another solution... ;-p
> cheers
>
> Laurent
>
> De : Heather Perkins <heatherperkins@...>
> Répondre à : emax@yahoogroups.com
> Date : Fri, 21 May 2004 08:11:29 -0700
> À : emax@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : [emax] Getting Emax II samples into a Mac
>
>
> (I almost deleted all the "im sad dam" posts because I thought they
> were Spams using "I'm Saddam" as a tagline--funny!)
>
>
> I am coming into the forum with a problem - I have a ton of old Emax II
> floppies full of smaples, but no Emax II.  I'm on a Mac. I want to get
> my old sample banks transferred or converted in some usable way--WAV,
> .aif, whatever.
>
> I have heard that there are Windows/PC utilities that can transfer EMAX
> II sample banks from an EMax formatted floppy to a PC. Can anyone help
> me? There are some internet cafes and such around here that have older
> PCs, so I should be able to find one with a floppy drive and internet
> access to download the needed apps.
>
> I suppose, failing all this, I could just find someone in town with an
> Emax II and transfer the sounds some other way. Any ideas on that?
> (short of just re-sampling them with an audio connection, which I think
> I can figure out myself)
>
> I am just starting my search, but there are some sounds I created in he
> past that I would love to have access to.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Heather
>
> PS - If there are any people on this list that have an Emax II and are
> based in Portland OR, let me know.
>
>
> Heather Perkins - WaterDog Studio
> http://www.waterdogstudio.com
>
>
>
> Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>
> http://www.silveriafamily.com
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Getting Emax II samples into a Mac

2004-05-21 by sindelfing

ALCHEMY Mac:
http://www.dragonslair.ca/Zipfiles/Alchemy30.sit

I found this at an emax-bank directory:
http://www.dragonslair.ca/index.html

Re: [emax] Re: Getting Emax II samples into a Mac

2004-05-22 by Lifelike

Thanks sindelfing I think it will help a lot, this version was the best !

De : "sindelfing" <fibers@...>
Répondre à : emax@yahoogroups.com
Date : Fri, 21 May 2004 18:12:24 -0000
À : emax@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [emax] Re: Getting Emax II samples into a Mac


ALCHEMY Mac:
http://www.dragonslair.ca/Zipfiles/Alchemy30.sit

I found this at an emax-bank directory:
http://www.dragonslair.ca/index.html



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