Emax

Hey if you're reading this, Thank you!

I've had my Emax rack for a month, so I'm just getting familiar with it.   Just yesterday I 
sampled some drums into it @ 28khz and it sounded fine.  About 15 minutes later I 
sampled something the same drum loop and it was way noisy... alot of fuzziness to the 
sound.  I noticed that the noise is increased inbetween transients and it happens with 
everything I sample from that point forward.  Can anyone explain why this is happening?  
I'm thinking if it's the power supply..... 

somebody respond please!!!! I know you're out there, I get the emails..... just not when it 
comes to my posts....

Thanx, MKR

I'm guessing the source sounds fine when you monitor
it?

Also that you have swapped out all audio cables, tried
adjusting line levels in, tried adjusting the line out
volume, tried listing to the sample though a different
Emax output, tried listing to the sample though a
different amp/head phone, checked your sample
settings, tried sampling at a different rate, and have
eleiminated a bad plug on any patch bay, mixer (and
levels), outboard effects?

Checked for ground loops?

Does this happen when you sample something else?

Bob

--- mkragab <mkragab@...> wrote:
> 
> Hey if you're reading this, Thank you!
> 
> I've had my Emax rack for a month, so I'm just
> getting familiar with it.   Just yesterday I 
> sampled some drums into it @ 28khz and it sounded
> fine.  About 15 minutes later I 
> sampled something the same drum loop and it was way
> noisy... alot of fuzziness to the 
> sound.  I noticed that the noise is increased
> inbetween transients and it happens with 
> everything I sample from that point forward.  Can
> anyone explain why this is happening?  
> I'm thinking if it's the power supply..... 
> 
> somebody respond please!!!! I know you're out there,
> I get the emails..... just not when it 
> comes to my posts....
> 
> Thanx, MKR
> 
> 
> 
> 


		
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yeah I did all of that....and it happens when ever I
sample anything after that first good take.... I don't
have any grounding problems... and and I dont know
what could be causing it....  



--- Bob Conner <rennocbob@...> wrote:
> I'm guessing the source sounds fine when you monitor
> it?
> 
> Also that you have swapped out all audio cables,
> tried
> adjusting line levels in, tried adjusting the line
> out
> volume, tried listing to the sample though a
> different
> Emax output, tried listing to the sample though a
> different amp/head phone, checked your sample
> settings, tried sampling at a different rate, and
> have
> eleiminated a bad plug on any patch bay, mixer (and
> levels), outboard effects?
> 
> Checked for ground loops?
> 
> Does this happen when you sample something else?
> 
> Bob
> 
> --- mkragab <mkragab@...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hey if you're reading this, Thank you!
> > 
> > I've had my Emax rack for a month, so I'm just
> > getting familiar with it.   Just yesterday I 
> > sampled some drums into it @ 28khz and it sounded
> > fine.  About 15 minutes later I 
> > sampled something the same drum loop and it was
> way
> > noisy... alot of fuzziness to the 
> > sound.  I noticed that the noise is increased
> > inbetween transients and it happens with 
> > everything I sample from that point forward.  Can
> > anyone explain why this is happening?  
> > I'm thinking if it's the power supply..... 
> > 
> > somebody respond please!!!! I know you're out
> there,
> > I get the emails..... just not when it 
> > comes to my posts....
> > 
> > Thanx, MKR
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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sounds like it needs repair, but wait for some other
responses.

Bob

--- Maged Ragab <mkragab@...> wrote:
> yeah I did all of that....and it happens when ever I
> sample anything after that first good take.... I
> don't
> have any grounding problems... and and I dont know
> what could be causing it....  
> 
> 
> 
> --- Bob Conner <rennocbob@...> wrote:
> > I'm guessing the source sounds fine when you
> monitor
> > it?
> > 
> > Also that you have swapped out all audio cables,
> > tried
> > adjusting line levels in, tried adjusting the line
> > out
> > volume, tried listing to the sample though a
> > different
> > Emax output, tried listing to the sample though a
> > different amp/head phone, checked your sample
> > settings, tried sampling at a different rate, and
> > have
> > eleiminated a bad plug on any patch bay, mixer
> (and
> > levels), outboard effects?
> > 
> > Checked for ground loops?
> > 
> > Does this happen when you sample something else?
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > --- mkragab <mkragab@...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey if you're reading this, Thank you!
> > > 
> > > I've had my Emax rack for a month, so I'm just
> > > getting familiar with it.   Just yesterday I 
> > > sampled some drums into it @ 28khz and it
> sounded
> > > fine.  About 15 minutes later I 
> > > sampled something the same drum loop and it was
> > way
> > > noisy... alot of fuzziness to the 
> > > sound.  I noticed that the noise is increased
> > > inbetween transients and it happens with 
> > > everything I sample from that point forward. 
> Can
> > > anyone explain why this is happening?  
> > > I'm thinking if it's the power supply..... 
> > > 
> > > somebody respond please!!!! I know you're out
> > there,
> > > I get the emails..... just not when it 
> > > comes to my posts....
> > > 
> > > Thanx, MKR
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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It sounds like old components.... at least its confined to just the
sampling input.

I'd suggest you take the emax to a repairer and get the audio in circuit
re-capped. It could also be the silicon, so probably worth your while to
get any opamps in the input circuit swapped out too.



julian


On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:54:11 -0700 (PDT), "Maged Ragab"
<mkragab@...> said:
> 
> yeah I did all of that....and it happens when ever I
> sample anything after that first good take.... I don't
> have any grounding problems... and and I dont know
> what could be causing it....  
> 
> 
> 
> --- Bob Conner <rennocbob@...> wrote:
> > I'm guessing the source sounds fine when you monitor
> > it?
> > 
> > Also that you have swapped out all audio cables,
> > tried
> > adjusting line levels in, tried adjusting the line
> > out
> > volume, tried listing to the sample though a
> > different
> > Emax output, tried listing to the sample though a
> > different amp/head phone, checked your sample
> > settings, tried sampling at a different rate, and
> > have
> > eleiminated a bad plug on any patch bay, mixer (and
> > levels), outboard effects?
> > 
> > Checked for ground loops?
> > 
> > Does this happen when you sample something else?
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > --- mkragab <mkragab@...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey if you're reading this, Thank you!
> > > 
> > > I've had my Emax rack for a month, so I'm just
> > > getting familiar with it.   Just yesterday I 
> > > sampled some drums into it @ 28khz and it sounded
> > > fine.  About 15 minutes later I 
> > > sampled something the same drum loop and it was
> > way
> > > noisy... alot of fuzziness to the 
> > > sound.  I noticed that the noise is increased
> > > inbetween transients and it happens with 
> > > everything I sample from that point forward.  Can
> > > anyone explain why this is happening?  
> > > I'm thinking if it's the power supply..... 
> > > 
> > > somebody respond please!!!! I know you're out
> > there,
> > > I get the emails..... just not when it 
> > > comes to my posts....
> > > 
> > > Thanx, MKR
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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i have recently run into the same problem with my Emax/IKE - it worked fine 
when i first got it, but now whenever i sample anything i get a lot of noise, no 
matter what sample rate or gain setting i use.

in addition, when i am on the VU page, i get a strange repeated high pitched 
square wave-ish rising tone monitoring the output - which happens whether  
the volume is up or down on the Emax! this happens whether or not i have a 
1/4" cable plugged into the sample input.

i suspect i have a flaky A/D converter but i don't have any way that i know of to 
check (don't think the diagnostics do that, not as far as i could tell. already 
recalibrated everything there was to do).

if someone knows what's happening, i would gratefully appreciate the insight


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Bob Conner <rennocbob@y...> wrote:

> I'm guessing the source sounds fine when you monitor
> it?
> 
> Also that you have swapped out all audio cables, tried
> adjusting line levels in, tried adjusting the line out
> volume, tried listing to the sample though a different
> Emax output, tried listing to the sample though a
> different amp/head phone, checked your sample
> settings, tried sampling at a different rate, and have
> eleiminated a bad plug on any patch bay, mixer (and
> levels), outboard effects?
> 
> Checked for ground loops?
> 
> Does this happen when you sample something else?
> 
> Bob
> 
> --- mkragab <mkragab@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hey if you're reading this, Thank you!
> > 
> > I've had my Emax rack for a month, so I'm just
> > getting familiar with it.   Just yesterday I 
> > sampled some drums into it @ 28khz and it sounded
> > fine.  About 15 minutes later I 
> > sampled something the same drum loop and it was way
> > noisy... alot of fuzziness to the 
> > sound.  I noticed that the noise is increased
> > inbetween transients and it happens with 
> > everything I sample from that point forward.  Can
> > anyone explain why this is happening?  
> > I'm thinking if it's the power supply..... 
> > 
> > somebody respond please!!!! I know you're out there,
> > I get the emails..... just not when it 
> > comes to my posts....
> > 
> > Thanx, MKR
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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I think you need to get it repaired or replaced.

Bob

--- blakbeltjonez <blakbeltjonez@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> i have recently run into the same problem with my
> Emax/IKE - it worked fine 
> when i first got it, but now whenever i sample
> anything i get a lot of noise, no 
> matter what sample rate or gain setting i use.
> 
> in addition, when i am on the VU page, i get a
> strange repeated high pitched 
> square wave-ish rising tone monitoring the output -
> which happens whether  
> the volume is up or down on the Emax! this happens
> whether or not i have a 
> 1/4" cable plugged into the sample input.
> 
> i suspect i have a flaky A/D converter but i don't
> have any way that i know of to 
> check (don't think the diagnostics do that, not as
> far as i could tell. already 
> recalibrated everything there was to do).
> 
> if someone knows what's happening, i would
> gratefully appreciate the insight
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Bob Conner
> <rennocbob@y...> wrote:
> > I'm guessing the source sounds fine when you
> monitor
> > it?
> > 
> > Also that you have swapped out all audio cables,
> tried
> > adjusting line levels in, tried adjusting the line
> out
> > volume, tried listing to the sample though a
> different
> > Emax output, tried listing to the sample though a
> > different amp/head phone, checked your sample
> > settings, tried sampling at a different rate, and
> have
> > eleiminated a bad plug on any patch bay, mixer
> (and
> > levels), outboard effects?
> > 
> > Checked for ground loops?
> > 
> > Does this happen when you sample something else?
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > --- mkragab <mkragab@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey if you're reading this, Thank you!
> > > 
> > > I've had my Emax rack for a month, so I'm just
> > > getting familiar with it.   Just yesterday I 
> > > sampled some drums into it @ 28khz and it
> sounded
> > > fine.  About 15 minutes later I 
> > > sampled something the same drum loop and it was
> way
> > > noisy... alot of fuzziness to the 
> > > sound.  I noticed that the noise is increased
> > > inbetween transients and it happens with 
> > > everything I sample from that point forward. 
> Can
> > > anyone explain why this is happening?  
> > > I'm thinking if it's the power supply..... 
> > > 
> > > somebody respond please!!!! I know you're out
> there,
> > > I get the emails..... just not when it 
> > > comes to my posts....
> > > 
> > > Thanx, MKR
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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