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Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-12 by elmacaco

Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of one key per sample I could change that in the emax.

Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to the emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable or just converting the sounds.  

Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?



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Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-12 by homershines

Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.

As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time. 

Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?

I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more awesome.

Let me know what you've got going on.

Peace.

homershines
 
--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in 
the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into 
em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip 
drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator 
archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently 
reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from 
the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be 
adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of one 
key per sample I could change that in the emax.
> 
> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my 
emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to the 
emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable or 
just converting the sounds.  
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> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
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Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-12 by elmacaco

Hey Homershines,

I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I was able to install alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like that error.  SO I need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS cable?  I thought the RS cable handled all of that.

Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works, the contrast of the screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I can get it to work I could get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.

Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this trouble on list and a solution would be great.

But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would be best.  I'd even use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: homershines 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator


  Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
  I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.

  As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time. 

  Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
  Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?

  I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more awesome.

  Let me know what you've got going on.

  Peace.

  homershines

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  > Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in 
  the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into 
  em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip 
  drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator 
  archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently 
  reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from 
  the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be 
  adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of one 
  key per sample I could change that in the emax.
  > 
  > Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my 
  emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to the 
  emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable or 
  just converting the sounds.  
  > 
  > Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
  > 
  > 
  > 
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Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-13 by homershines

Damn.
I have to go back in time.
I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.

Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?

Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same time?
That may be fine too.

I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
I'm sure it can be solved.
It's been some time though.

Wow.

Peace.

homershines



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
> Hey Homershines,
> 
> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I was able to install 
alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like that error.  SO I 
need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS cable?  I thought the 
RS cable handled all of that.
> 
> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works, the contrast of the 
screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I can get it to work I could 
get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
> 
> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this trouble on list and a 
solution would be great.
> 
> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would be best.  I'd even 
use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: homershines 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
> 
> 
>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
> 
>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time. 
> 
>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
> 
>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more awesome.
> 
>   Let me know what you've got going on.
> 
>   Peace.
> 
>   homershines
> 
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>   > Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in 
>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into 
>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip 
>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator 
>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently 
>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from 
>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be 
>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of one 
>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
>   > 
>   > Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my 
>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to the 
>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable or 
>   just converting the sounds.  
>   > 
>   > Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
> 
>   http://www.silveriafamily.com 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-13 by ted Summers

I am running Alchemy 3.0 on Performa 6214 with OS 8.1 You are not  
supposed to hook the midi and serial cable up at the same time as both  
ports run off the same chip in the emax. the midi alone does work, but  
is slower. the whole reason for the serial cable is it is WAY faster. I  
built my cable myself, and it works great. So it should work. You may  
have problems with Alchemy if it is a "cracked" copy. I believe the  
cracked copy never worked for me (I remember the Keymap errors), and  
crashed several times. I got lucky and found an original copy, which  
has never crashed on me....although I haven't used it "tons"....

Hope that info helps,
Ted
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On May 12, 2005, at 6:22 PM, homershines wrote:

> Damn.
> I have to go back in time.
> I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.
>
> Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?
>
> Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same time?
> That may be fine too.
>
> I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
> I'm sure it can be solved.
> It's been some time though.
>
> Wow.
>
> Peace.
>
> homershines
>
>
>
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>> Hey Homershines,
>>
>> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I was  
>> able to install
> alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like  
> that error.  SO I
> need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS  
> cable?  I thought the
> RS cable handled all of that.
>>
>> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works, the  
>> contrast of the
> screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I  
> can get it to work I could
> get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
>>
>> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this  
>> trouble on list and a
> solution would be great.
>>
>> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would  
>> be best.  I'd even
> use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: homershines
>>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
>>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>>
>>
>>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
>>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
>>
>>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time.
>>
>>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
>>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
>>
>>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more awesome.
>>
>>   Let me know what you've got going on.
>>
>>   Peace.
>>
>>   homershines
>>
>>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>>> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in
>>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into
>>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip
>>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator
>>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently
>>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from
>>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be
>>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of one
>>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
>>>
>>> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my
>>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to the
>>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable or
>>   just converting the sounds.
>>>
>>> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>>
>>   http://www.silveriafamily.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-13 by elmacaco

Is there a way to get a copy of your original to the group?  Or would that still be a crack?  It would just be a floppy image correct?  or does it have a dongle?

I am using the one we have in the files section and I don't think anyone else has gotten it to work with the emax either (correct me if I am wrong).
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ted Summers 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator


  I am running Alchemy 3.0 on Performa 6214 with OS 8.1 You are not  
  supposed to hook the midi and serial cable up at the same time as both  
  ports run off the same chip in the emax. the midi alone does work, but  
  is slower. the whole reason for the serial cable is it is WAY faster. I  
  built my cable myself, and it works great. So it should work. You may  
  have problems with Alchemy if it is a "cracked" copy. I believe the  
  cracked copy never worked for me (I remember the Keymap errors), and  
  crashed several times. I got lucky and found an original copy, which  
  has never crashed on me....although I haven't used it "tons"....

  Hope that info helps,
  Ted

  On May 12, 2005, at 6:22 PM, homershines wrote:

  > Damn.
  > I have to go back in time.
  > I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.
  >
  > Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?
  >
  > Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same time?
  > That may be fine too.
  >
  > I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
  > I'm sure it can be solved.
  > It's been some time though.
  >
  > Wow.
  >
  > Peace.
  >
  > homershines
  >
  >
  >
  > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >> Hey Homershines,
  >>
  >> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I was  
  >> able to install
  > alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like  
  > that error.  SO I
  > need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS  
  > cable?  I thought the
  > RS cable handled all of that.
  >>
  >> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works, the  
  >> contrast of the
  > screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I  
  > can get it to work I could
  > get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
  >>
  >> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this  
  >> trouble on list and a
  > solution would be great.
  >>
  >> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would  
  >> be best.  I'd even
  > use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
  >>
  >>
  >>   ----- Original Message -----
  >>   From: homershines
  >>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
  >>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >>
  >>
  >>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
  >>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
  >>
  >>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time.
  >>
  >>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
  >>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
  >>
  >>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more awesome.
  >>
  >>   Let me know what you've got going on.
  >>
  >>   Peace.
  >>
  >>   homershines
  >>
  >>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >>> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in
  >>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into
  >>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip
  >>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator
  >>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently
  >>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from
  >>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be
  >>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of one
  >>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
  >>>
  >>> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my
  >>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to the
  >>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable or
  >>   just converting the sounds.
  >>>
  >>> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>   Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
  >>
  >>   http://www.silveriafamily.com
  >>
  >>
  >>
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Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-13 by ted Summers

The original Alchemy works like older ProTools in that there is an  
authorization on the disk that it puts onto your hard drive. I am  
unaware of a way to copy the disk with the "authorization" intact. I  
tried it with a ProTools disk once (before I had bought ProTools) and  
never was able to do it- or a couple of my friends either :-(.
Anyone on the group know how to make a "backup" of this type of  
protected disk? If so, I can try it. If successful, I could then get  
the image uploaded and we could try it....

Too bad the company that bought the rights to Alchemy won't re-release  
it- I know, I asked before I was able to finally find an original....

Thanks,
Ted
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On May 13, 2005, at 7:50 AM, elmacaco wrote:

> Is there a way to get a copy of your original to the group?  Or would  
> that still be a crack?  It would just be a floppy image correct?  or  
> does it have a dongle?
>
> I am using the one we have in the files section and I don't think  
> anyone else has gotten it to work with the emax either (correct me if  
> I am wrong).
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ted Summers
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:09 AM
>   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>
>
>   I am running Alchemy 3.0 on Performa 6214 with OS 8.1 You are not
>   supposed to hook the midi and serial cable up at the same time as  
> both
>   ports run off the same chip in the emax. the midi alone does work,  
> but
>   is slower. the whole reason for the serial cable is it is WAY  
> faster. I
>   built my cable myself, and it works great. So it should work. You may
>   have problems with Alchemy if it is a "cracked" copy. I believe the
>   cracked copy never worked for me (I remember the Keymap errors), and
>   crashed several times. I got lucky and found an original copy, which
>   has never crashed on me....although I haven't used it "tons"....
>
>   Hope that info helps,
>   Ted
>
>   On May 12, 2005, at 6:22 PM, homershines wrote:
>
>> Damn.
>> I have to go back in time.
>> I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.
>>
>> Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?
>>
>> Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same  
>> time?
>> That may be fine too.
>>
>> I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
>> I'm sure it can be solved.
>> It's been some time though.
>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> Peace.
>>
>> homershines
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>>> Hey Homershines,
>>>
>>> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I was
>>> able to install
>> alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like
>> that error.  SO I
>> need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS
>> cable?  I thought the
>> RS cable handled all of that.
>>>
>>> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works, the
>>> contrast of the
>> screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I
>> can get it to work I could
>> get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this
>>> trouble on list and a
>> solution would be great.
>>>
>>> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would
>>> be best.  I'd even
>> use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
>>>
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: homershines
>>>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>>>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
>>>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>>>
>>>
>>>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
>>>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
>>>
>>>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time.
>>>
>>>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
>>>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
>>>
>>>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more  
>>> awesome.
>>>
>>>   Let me know what you've got going on.
>>>
>>>   Peace.
>>>
>>>   homershines
>>>
>>>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>>>> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in
>>>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into
>>>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip
>>>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator
>>>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently
>>>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from
>>>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be
>>>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of  
>>> one
>>>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
>>>>
>>>> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my
>>>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to  
>>> the
>>>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable  
>>> or
>>>   just converting the sounds.
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>>>
>>>   http://www.silveriafamily.com
>>>
>>>
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Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-13 by elmacaco

Maybe a disk image program that takes a whole disk image?  I think that should do it.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ted Summers 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator


  The original Alchemy works like older ProTools in that there is an  
  authorization on the disk that it puts onto your hard drive. I am  
  unaware of a way to copy the disk with the "authorization" intact. I  
  tried it with a ProTools disk once (before I had bought ProTools) and  
  never was able to do it- or a couple of my friends either :-(.
  Anyone on the group know how to make a "backup" of this type of  
  protected disk? If so, I can try it. If successful, I could then get  
  the image uploaded and we could try it....

  Too bad the company that bought the rights to Alchemy won't re-release  
  it- I know, I asked before I was able to finally find an original....

  Thanks,
  Ted

  On May 13, 2005, at 7:50 AM, elmacaco wrote:

  > Is there a way to get a copy of your original to the group?  Or would  
  > that still be a crack?  It would just be a floppy image correct?  or  
  > does it have a dongle?
  >
  > I am using the one we have in the files section and I don't think  
  > anyone else has gotten it to work with the emax either (correct me if  
  > I am wrong).
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: ted Summers
  >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:09 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >
  >
  >   I am running Alchemy 3.0 on Performa 6214 with OS 8.1 You are not
  >   supposed to hook the midi and serial cable up at the same time as  
  > both
  >   ports run off the same chip in the emax. the midi alone does work,  
  > but
  >   is slower. the whole reason for the serial cable is it is WAY  
  > faster. I
  >   built my cable myself, and it works great. So it should work. You may
  >   have problems with Alchemy if it is a "cracked" copy. I believe the
  >   cracked copy never worked for me (I remember the Keymap errors), and
  >   crashed several times. I got lucky and found an original copy, which
  >   has never crashed on me....although I haven't used it "tons"....
  >
  >   Hope that info helps,
  >   Ted
  >
  >   On May 12, 2005, at 6:22 PM, homershines wrote:
  >
  >> Damn.
  >> I have to go back in time.
  >> I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.
  >>
  >> Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?
  >>
  >> Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same  
  >> time?
  >> That may be fine too.
  >>
  >> I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
  >> I'm sure it can be solved.
  >> It's been some time though.
  >>
  >> Wow.
  >>
  >> Peace.
  >>
  >> homershines
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >>> Hey Homershines,
  >>>
  >>> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I was
  >>> able to install
  >> alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like
  >> that error.  SO I
  >> need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS
  >> cable?  I thought the
  >> RS cable handled all of that.
  >>>
  >>> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works, the
  >>> contrast of the
  >> screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I
  >> can get it to work I could
  >> get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
  >>>
  >>> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this
  >>> trouble on list and a
  >> solution would be great.
  >>>
  >>> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would
  >>> be best.  I'd even
  >> use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>   ----- Original Message -----
  >>>   From: homershines
  >>>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >>>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
  >>>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
  >>>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
  >>>
  >>>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time.
  >>>
  >>>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
  >>>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
  >>>
  >>>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more  
  >>> awesome.
  >>>
  >>>   Let me know what you've got going on.
  >>>
  >>>   Peace.
  >>>
  >>>   homershines
  >>>
  >>>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >>>> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in
  >>>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into
  >>>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip
  >>>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator
  >>>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently
  >>>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from
  >>>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be
  >>>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of  
  >>> one
  >>>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
  >>>>
  >>>> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my
  >>>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to  
  >>> the
  >>>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable  
  >>> or
  >>>   just converting the sounds.
  >>>>
  >>>> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
  >>>>
  >>>>
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Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-14 by ted Summers

Doesn't disk image utility do that??? Cuz that is one thing we tried. I  
dunno if we tried shrinkwrap or not....

I will test and see this weekend, ok?

Wish me luck...
Ted
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On May 13, 2005, at 10:40 AM, elmacaco wrote:

> Maybe a disk image program that takes a whole disk image?  I think  
> that should do it.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ted Summers
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:56 AM
>   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>
>
>   The original Alchemy works like older ProTools in that there is an
>   authorization on the disk that it puts onto your hard drive. I am
>   unaware of a way to copy the disk with the "authorization" intact. I
>   tried it with a ProTools disk once (before I had bought ProTools) and
>   never was able to do it- or a couple of my friends either :-(.
>   Anyone on the group know how to make a "backup" of this type of
>   protected disk? If so, I can try it. If successful, I could then get
>   the image uploaded and we could try it....
>
>   Too bad the company that bought the rights to Alchemy won't  
> re-release
>   it- I know, I asked before I was able to finally find an original....
>
>   Thanks,
>   Ted
>
>   On May 13, 2005, at 7:50 AM, elmacaco wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to get a copy of your original to the group?  Or would
>> that still be a crack?  It would just be a floppy image correct?  or
>> does it have a dongle?
>>
>> I am using the one we have in the files section and I don't think
>> anyone else has gotten it to work with the emax either (correct me if
>> I am wrong).
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: ted Summers
>>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:09 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>>
>>
>>   I am running Alchemy 3.0 on Performa 6214 with OS 8.1 You are not
>>   supposed to hook the midi and serial cable up at the same time as
>> both
>>   ports run off the same chip in the emax. the midi alone does work,
>> but
>>   is slower. the whole reason for the serial cable is it is WAY
>> faster. I
>>   built my cable myself, and it works great. So it should work. You  
>> may
>>   have problems with Alchemy if it is a "cracked" copy. I believe the
>>   cracked copy never worked for me (I remember the Keymap errors), and
>>   crashed several times. I got lucky and found an original copy, which
>>   has never crashed on me....although I haven't used it "tons"....
>>
>>   Hope that info helps,
>>   Ted
>>
>>   On May 12, 2005, at 6:22 PM, homershines wrote:
>>
>>> Damn.
>>> I have to go back in time.
>>> I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.
>>>
>>> Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?
>>>
>>> Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same
>>> time?
>>> That may be fine too.
>>>
>>> I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
>>> I'm sure it can be solved.
>>> It's been some time though.
>>>
>>> Wow.
>>>
>>> Peace.
>>>
>>> homershines
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>>>> Hey Homershines,
>>>>
>>>> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I  
>>>> was
>>>> able to install
>>> alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like
>>> that error.  SO I
>>> need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS
>>> cable?  I thought the
>>> RS cable handled all of that.
>>>>
>>>> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works,  
>>>> the
>>>> contrast of the
>>> screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I
>>> can get it to work I could
>>> get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this
>>>> trouble on list and a
>>> solution would be great.
>>>>
>>>> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would
>>>> be best.  I'd even
>>> use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: homershines
>>>>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>>>>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
>>>>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
>>>>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
>>>>
>>>>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time.
>>>>
>>>>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
>>>>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
>>>>
>>>>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more
>>>> awesome.
>>>>
>>>>   Let me know what you've got going on.
>>>>
>>>>   Peace.
>>>>
>>>>   homershines
>>>>
>>>>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in
>>>>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into
>>>>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip
>>>>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator
>>>>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently
>>>>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from
>>>>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be
>>>>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of
>>>> one
>>>>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my
>>>>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to
>>>> the
>>>>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable
>>>> or
>>>>   just converting the sounds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-14 by elmacaco

Hey that would be great, I really appreciate the effort.

Thanks
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ted Summers 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator


  Doesn't disk image utility do that??? Cuz that is one thing we tried. I  
  dunno if we tried shrinkwrap or not....

  I will test and see this weekend, ok?

  Wish me luck...
  Ted

  On May 13, 2005, at 10:40 AM, elmacaco wrote:

  > Maybe a disk image program that takes a whole disk image?  I think  
  > that should do it.
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: ted Summers
  >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:56 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >
  >
  >   The original Alchemy works like older ProTools in that there is an
  >   authorization on the disk that it puts onto your hard drive. I am
  >   unaware of a way to copy the disk with the "authorization" intact. I
  >   tried it with a ProTools disk once (before I had bought ProTools) and
  >   never was able to do it- or a couple of my friends either :-(.
  >   Anyone on the group know how to make a "backup" of this type of
  >   protected disk? If so, I can try it. If successful, I could then get
  >   the image uploaded and we could try it....
  >
  >   Too bad the company that bought the rights to Alchemy won't  
  > re-release
  >   it- I know, I asked before I was able to finally find an original....
  >
  >   Thanks,
  >   Ted
  >
  >   On May 13, 2005, at 7:50 AM, elmacaco wrote:
  >
  >> Is there a way to get a copy of your original to the group?  Or would
  >> that still be a crack?  It would just be a floppy image correct?  or
  >> does it have a dongle?
  >>
  >> I am using the one we have in the files section and I don't think
  >> anyone else has gotten it to work with the emax either (correct me if
  >> I am wrong).
  >>
  >>
  >>   ----- Original Message -----
  >>   From: ted Summers
  >>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >>   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:09 AM
  >>   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >>
  >>
  >>   I am running Alchemy 3.0 on Performa 6214 with OS 8.1 You are not
  >>   supposed to hook the midi and serial cable up at the same time as
  >> both
  >>   ports run off the same chip in the emax. the midi alone does work,
  >> but
  >>   is slower. the whole reason for the serial cable is it is WAY
  >> faster. I
  >>   built my cable myself, and it works great. So it should work. You  
  >> may
  >>   have problems with Alchemy if it is a "cracked" copy. I believe the
  >>   cracked copy never worked for me (I remember the Keymap errors), and
  >>   crashed several times. I got lucky and found an original copy, which
  >>   has never crashed on me....although I haven't used it "tons"....
  >>
  >>   Hope that info helps,
  >>   Ted
  >>
  >>   On May 12, 2005, at 6:22 PM, homershines wrote:
  >>
  >>> Damn.
  >>> I have to go back in time.
  >>> I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.
  >>>
  >>> Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?
  >>>
  >>> Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same
  >>> time?
  >>> That may be fine too.
  >>>
  >>> I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
  >>> I'm sure it can be solved.
  >>> It's been some time though.
  >>>
  >>> Wow.
  >>>
  >>> Peace.
  >>>
  >>> homershines
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >>>> Hey Homershines,
  >>>>
  >>>> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I  
  >>>> was
  >>>> able to install
  >>> alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like
  >>> that error.  SO I
  >>> need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS
  >>> cable?  I thought the
  >>> RS cable handled all of that.
  >>>>
  >>>> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works,  
  >>>> the
  >>>> contrast of the
  >>> screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I
  >>> can get it to work I could
  >>> get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
  >>>>
  >>>> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this
  >>>> trouble on list and a
  >>> solution would be great.
  >>>>
  >>>> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would
  >>>> be best.  I'd even
  >>> use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>   ----- Original Message -----
  >>>>   From: homershines
  >>>>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >>>>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
  >>>>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
  >>>>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
  >>>>
  >>>>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time.
  >>>>
  >>>>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
  >>>>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
  >>>>
  >>>>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more
  >>>> awesome.
  >>>>
  >>>>   Let me know what you've got going on.
  >>>>
  >>>>   Peace.
  >>>>
  >>>>   homershines
  >>>>
  >>>>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >>>>> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in
  >>>>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into
  >>>>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip
  >>>>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator
  >>>>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently
  >>>>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from
  >>>>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be
  >>>>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of
  >>>> one
  >>>>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my
  >>>>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to
  >>>> the
  >>>>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable
  >>>> or
  >>>>   just converting the sounds.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
  >>>>>
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Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-14 by homershines

Ok.
I pulled out my AIO [All-In-One] G3 Mac and loaded a copy of the Alchemy that is here on 
this site. This AIO is running OS 9.2.1 right now. OMS is not installed. Alchemy is version 
3.0. I turned off Appetalk.

 I pulled out my Emax II, which a few days ago I swore was dead. I connected the RS422 
cable and then plugged it into the Mac's Modem port. I turned on the Emax II and loaded 
up a preset. Its a go. 

I had an error at first. Then, I got samples from the Emax II into the Mac. Starts off with the 
Mac making the Emax II's disk drive go into action for a sec. It seems as if the program 
sort semi-crashes as it receives the sample, but the sample appears. I have t o do some 
more investigation. I don't remember this kind of thing happening back in the day.

This is what's up:
In Alchemy, under "Network," the Emax II is selected with a little check mark. I went into 
edit and made sure that RS422 is selected and that the Modem port was selected. So far, I 
have de-selected Midi patcher. 

I also tried the Serial port. No go. That "No Keyboard Map" message shows up.
 I'll know mor soon. I think that the midi connecton may be needed to complete the 
process. I might be wrong.

Peace and more news later.

homershines



 --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
> Hey that would be great, I really appreciate the effort.
> 
> Thanks
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: ted Summers 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:40 PM
>   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
> 
> 
>   Doesn't disk image utility do that??? Cuz that is one thing we tried. I  
>   dunno if we tried shrinkwrap or not....
> 
>   I will test and see this weekend, ok?
> 
>   Wish me luck...
>   Ted
> 
>   On May 13, 2005, at 10:40 AM, elmacaco wrote:
> 
>   > Maybe a disk image program that takes a whole disk image?  I think  
>   > that should do it.
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: ted Summers
>   >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:56 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>   >
>   >
>   >   The original Alchemy works like older ProTools in that there is an
>   >   authorization on the disk that it puts onto your hard drive. I am
>   >   unaware of a way to copy the disk with the "authorization" intact. I
>   >   tried it with a ProTools disk once (before I had bought ProTools) and
>   >   never was able to do it- or a couple of my friends either :-(.
>   >   Anyone on the group know how to make a "backup" of this type of
>   >   protected disk? If so, I can try it. If successful, I could then get
>   >   the image uploaded and we could try it....
>   >
>   >   Too bad the company that bought the rights to Alchemy won't  
>   > re-release
>   >   it- I know, I asked before I was able to finally find an original....
>   >
>   >   Thanks,
>   >   Ted
>   >
>   >   On May 13, 2005, at 7:50 AM, elmacaco wrote:
>   >
>   >> Is there a way to get a copy of your original to the group?  Or would
>   >> that still be a crack?  It would just be a floppy image correct?  or
>   >> does it have a dongle?
>   >>
>   >> I am using the one we have in the files section and I don't think
>   >> anyone else has gotten it to work with the emax either (correct me if
>   >> I am wrong).
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>   ----- Original Message -----
>   >>   From: ted Summers
>   >>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   >>   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:09 AM
>   >>   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>   I am running Alchemy 3.0 on Performa 6214 with OS 8.1 You are not
>   >>   supposed to hook the midi and serial cable up at the same time as
>   >> both
>   >>   ports run off the same chip in the emax. the midi alone does work,
>   >> but
>   >>   is slower. the whole reason for the serial cable is it is WAY
>   >> faster. I
>   >>   built my cable myself, and it works great. So it should work. You  
>   >> may
>   >>   have problems with Alchemy if it is a "cracked" copy. I believe the
>   >>   cracked copy never worked for me (I remember the Keymap errors), and
>   >>   crashed several times. I got lucky and found an original copy, which
>   >>   has never crashed on me....although I haven't used it "tons"....
>   >>
>   >>   Hope that info helps,
>   >>   Ted
>   >>
>   >>   On May 12, 2005, at 6:22 PM, homershines wrote:
>   >>
>   >>> Damn.
>   >>> I have to go back in time.
>   >>> I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.
>   >>>
>   >>> Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?
>   >>>
>   >>> Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same
>   >>> time?
>   >>> That may be fine too.
>   >>>
>   >>> I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
>   >>> I'm sure it can be solved.
>   >>> It's been some time though.
>   >>>
>   >>> Wow.
>   >>>
>   >>> Peace.
>   >>>
>   >>> homershines
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>   >>>> Hey Homershines,
>   >>>>
>   >>>> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I  
>   >>>> was
>   >>>> able to install
>   >>> alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like
>   >>> that error.  SO I
>   >>> need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS
>   >>> cable?  I thought the
>   >>> RS cable handled all of that.
>   >>>>
>   >>>> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works,  
>   >>>> the
>   >>>> contrast of the
>   >>> screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I
>   >>> can get it to work I could
>   >>> get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
>   >>>>
>   >>>> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this
>   >>>> trouble on list and a
>   >>> solution would be great.
>   >>>>
>   >>>> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would
>   >>>> be best.  I'd even
>   >>> use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>   >>>>   From: homershines
>   >>>>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   >>>>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
>   >>>>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
>   >>>>
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
>   >>>>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
>   >>>>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more
>   >>>> awesome.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   Let me know what you've got going on.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   Peace.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   homershines
>   >>>>
>   >>>>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
>   >>>>> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in
>   >>>>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into
>   >>>>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip
>   >>>>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator
>   >>>>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently
>   >>>>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from
>   >>>>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be
>   >>>>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of
>   >>>> one
>   >>>>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
>   >>>>>
>   >>>>> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my
>   >>>>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to
>   >>>> the
>   >>>>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable
>   >>>> or
>   >>>>   just converting the sounds.
>   >>>>>
>   >>>>> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
>   >>>>>
>   >>>>>
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Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator

2005-05-15 by elmacaco

Thanks Homershines,  glad your emax II is back up and running.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: homershines 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 5:36 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator


  Ok.
  I pulled out my AIO [All-In-One] G3 Mac and loaded a copy of the Alchemy that is here on 
  this site. This AIO is running OS 9.2.1 right now. OMS is not installed. Alchemy is version 
  3.0. I turned off Appetalk.

  I pulled out my Emax II, which a few days ago I swore was dead. I connected the RS422 
  cable and then plugged it into the Mac's Modem port. I turned on the Emax II and loaded 
  up a preset. Its a go. 

  I had an error at first. Then, I got samples from the Emax II into the Mac. Starts off with the 
  Mac making the Emax II's disk drive go into action for a sec. It seems as if the program 
  sort semi-crashes as it receives the sample, but the sample appears. I have t o do some 
  more investigation. I don't remember this kind of thing happening back in the day.

  This is what's up:
  In Alchemy, under "Network," the Emax II is selected with a little check mark. I went into 
  edit and made sure that RS422 is selected and that the Modem port was selected. So far, I 
  have de-selected Midi patcher. 

  I also tried the Serial port. No go. That "No Keyboard Map" message shows up.
  I'll know mor soon. I think that the midi connecton may be needed to complete the 
  process. I might be wrong.

  Peace and more news later.

  homershines



  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  > Hey that would be great, I really appreciate the effort.
  > 
  > Thanks
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: ted Summers 
  >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:40 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  > 
  > 
  >   Doesn't disk image utility do that??? Cuz that is one thing we tried. I  
  >   dunno if we tried shrinkwrap or not....
  > 
  >   I will test and see this weekend, ok?
  > 
  >   Wish me luck...
  >   Ted
  > 
  >   On May 13, 2005, at 10:40 AM, elmacaco wrote:
  > 
  >   > Maybe a disk image program that takes a whole disk image?  I think  
  >   > that should do it.
  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   From: ted Summers
  >   >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >   >   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:56 AM
  >   >   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   The original Alchemy works like older ProTools in that there is an
  >   >   authorization on the disk that it puts onto your hard drive. I am
  >   >   unaware of a way to copy the disk with the "authorization" intact. I
  >   >   tried it with a ProTools disk once (before I had bought ProTools) and
  >   >   never was able to do it- or a couple of my friends either :-(.
  >   >   Anyone on the group know how to make a "backup" of this type of
  >   >   protected disk? If so, I can try it. If successful, I could then get
  >   >   the image uploaded and we could try it....
  >   >
  >   >   Too bad the company that bought the rights to Alchemy won't  
  >   > re-release
  >   >   it- I know, I asked before I was able to finally find an original....
  >   >
  >   >   Thanks,
  >   >   Ted
  >   >
  >   >   On May 13, 2005, at 7:50 AM, elmacaco wrote:
  >   >
  >   >> Is there a way to get a copy of your original to the group?  Or would
  >   >> that still be a crack?  It would just be a floppy image correct?  or
  >   >> does it have a dongle?
  >   >>
  >   >> I am using the one we have in the files section and I don't think
  >   >> anyone else has gotten it to work with the emax either (correct me if
  >   >> I am wrong).
  >   >>
  >   >>
  >   >>   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >>   From: ted Summers
  >   >>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >   >>   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:09 AM
  >   >>   Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >   >>
  >   >>
  >   >>   I am running Alchemy 3.0 on Performa 6214 with OS 8.1 You are not
  >   >>   supposed to hook the midi and serial cable up at the same time as
  >   >> both
  >   >>   ports run off the same chip in the emax. the midi alone does work,
  >   >> but
  >   >>   is slower. the whole reason for the serial cable is it is WAY
  >   >> faster. I
  >   >>   built my cable myself, and it works great. So it should work. You  
  >   >> may
  >   >>   have problems with Alchemy if it is a "cracked" copy. I believe the
  >   >>   cracked copy never worked for me (I remember the Keymap errors), and
  >   >>   crashed several times. I got lucky and found an original copy, which
  >   >>   has never crashed on me....although I haven't used it "tons"....
  >   >>
  >   >>   Hope that info helps,
  >   >>   Ted
  >   >>
  >   >>   On May 12, 2005, at 6:22 PM, homershines wrote:
  >   >>
  >   >>> Damn.
  >   >>> I have to go back in time.
  >   >>> I think it's an Alchemy and appropriate OS issue though.
  >   >>>
  >   >>> Do you have or can you use Mac OS 8.6?
  >   >>>
  >   >>> Also, is the midi cable connected via whatever source at the same
  >   >>> time?
  >   >>> That may be fine too.
  >   >>>
  >   >>> I'm looking thru my ole Alchemy manual for leads.
  >   >>> I'm sure it can be solved.
  >   >>> It's been some time though.
  >   >>>
  >   >>> Wow.
  >   >>>
  >   >>> Peace.
  >   >>>
  >   >>> homershines
  >   >>>
  >   >>>
  >   >>>
  >   >>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >   >>>> Hey Homershines,
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>> I have a powerbook 160 I found in the garbage with OS 7.5.1 and I  
  >   >>>> was
  >   >>>> able to install
  >   >>> alchemy, but I always got that couldn't find keymap or something like
  >   >>> that error.  SO I
  >   >>> need to have a midi interface hooked up to the mac as well as the RS
  >   >>> cable?  I thought the
  >   >>> RS cable handled all of that.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>> Mind you this powerbook has seen better days, but it still works,  
  >   >>>> the
  >   >>>> contrast of the
  >   >>> screen fluctuates and the track ball doesn't track so well, but if I
  >   >>> can get it to work I could
  >   >>> get used to it, all I'd do is load wavs to transfer through a floppy.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>> Thanks for looking at this, there are a few more people having this
  >   >>>> trouble on list and a
  >   >>> solution would be great.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>> But ideally something on the PC that could spit out em1 files would
  >   >>>> be best.  I'd even
  >   >>> use EMX to write the disk if I could just feed my emax wavs.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >>>>   From: homershines
  >   >>>>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >   >>>>   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:45 PM
  >   >>>>   Subject: [emax] Re: Wav to Emax I Apple II emulator
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   Don't think you can get Alchemy to work with Apple II.
  >   >>>>   I'd really be surprised. Alchemy is a much later invention.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   As for your Mac problem, you should give it a lil more time.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   Do you have a midi cable and RS422 attached?
  >   >>>>   Which Mac, OS & version of Alchemy?
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   I used to live off of Alchemy. It made my Emax II even more
  >   >>>> awesome.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   Let me know what you've got going on.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   Peace.
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   homershines
  >   >>>>
  >   >>>>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >   >>>>> Has anyone been able to run alchemy on the Apple II emulator in
  >   >>>>   the archives?  I am still on the quest to convert wave files into
  >   >>>>   em1 files to load into my emax.  Either through floppy or Zip
  >   >>>>   drive.  I tried alchemy on an old mac with the cable from emulator
  >   >>>>   archive, but I always got the same error that other's recently
  >   >>>>   reported.  So basically I just want to be able to pass audio from
  >   >>>>   the PC to the Emax,  dont need any particular settings to be
  >   >>>>   adjustable, even if they loaded with a default key assignment of
  >   >>>> one
  >   >>>>   key per sample I could change that in the emax.
  >   >>>>>
  >   >>>>> Just curious if anyone else has got this working.  I still use my
  >   >>>>   emax all the time, and I could always just sample from the PC to
  >   >>>> the
  >   >>>>   emax, but it is a bit less elegant that sampling from a turntable
  >   >>>> or
  >   >>>>   just converting the sounds.
  >   >>>>>
  >   >>>>> Wasn't chickensystems gonna add emax support?
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