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Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - Need some advice

Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - Need some advice

2006-06-29 by brainztain

Hi,

I want to completely remove the floppy drive from my Emax HD because I 
don't need it and will be using an internal zip drive, but it doesn't 
seem to get passed the "diagnostics" screen when I do that.  I've read 
most of the posts that have anything to do with this matter but I 
haven't found anything helpful.

Is there a way to make the emax "detect" a floppy drive even if it's 
not there? (maybe there's a "loop" after connecting the cable that 
senses there's a drive connected?)

Any help is welcome.

Thanks.

Re: Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - Need some advice

2006-06-29 by brainztain

Problem Solved!

For anybody trying to run without a floppy disk drive (and booting 
from internal zip or hard drive), I've found a solution that works!!!

I suspected that using a jumper somewhere on the 34-pin-out for the 
floppy would "trick" the E-max into thinking there was a floppy drive 
(otherwise it would hang on diagnostics) but I couldn't find anything 
here or online that pointed out which one of these pins it was or if 
it was even true.

So, I dug out all my old hard drives and cd-roms to remove their 
jumpers so I could have enough to place them on all 34 pins (who has 
that many pins laying around!!).  Anyway, to find out whether it 
worked or not, I put all jumpers on the board's floppy pin-out... 
and... IT WORKED!!

I didn't want to leave all those jumpers on there so I removed one at 
a time, rebooting each time to see if removing that jumper would 
cause it not to work.  The result was that only one jumper is needed 
to "trick" emax.  This jumper must be placed on pin number 26 (and 
its "paired" pin).

So there you go! To get rid of floppy drive, just place a jumper on 
pin 26 and it's done. I hope this will help others who are also 
looking to operate without a floppy.





--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "brainztain" <digitailslide@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I want to completely remove the floppy drive from my Emax HD 
because I 
> don't need it and will be using an internal zip drive, but it 
doesn't 
> seem to get passed the "diagnostics" screen when I do that.  I've 
read 
> most of the posts that have anything to do with this matter but I 
> haven't found anything helpful.
> 
> Is there a way to make the emax "detect" a floppy drive even if 
it's 
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> not there? (maybe there's a "loop" after connecting the cable that 
> senses there's a drive connected?)
> 
> Any help is welcome.
> 
> Thanks.
>

Re: [emax] Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - Need some advice

2006-06-29 by gray

Is there a way to make the emax "detect" a floppy drive even if it's 
not there? (maybe there's a "loop" after connecting the cable that 
senses there's a drive connected?)

Most keyboards are basically a computer.....and like a motherboard that 
looks for the boot disk because its part of the bios....the ROM of a synth
looks every time for the boot drive.....because its part of the OS of the
synth.....I don't think you can X it out.......unless the E synth lets you pick the
boot drive in the OS and save as boot drive the zip......or the cable you 
are using to plug the zip into how ever that would be list in the Emu OS bios.....
if it lets you pick and choose the boot drive or first boot item what ever that
would be....Zip/HD/Floppy upon cutting the Emu on it would go to the Zip
if chosen in bios as the boot disk.....
gray
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: brainztain 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:41 AM
  Subject: [emax] Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - Need some advice


  Hi,

  I want to completely remove the floppy drive from my Emax HD because I 
  don't need it and will be using an internal zip drive, but it doesn't 
  seem to get passed the "diagnostics" screen when I do that. I've read 
  most of the posts that have anything to do with this matter but I 
  haven't found anything helpful.

  Is there a way to make the emax "detect" a floppy drive even if it's 
  not there? (maybe there's a "loop" after connecting the cable that 
  senses there's a drive connected?)

  Any help is welcome.

  Thanks.



   

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Re: Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - Need some advice

2006-06-29 by brainztain

The emax will not boot from anything unless it detects a floppy ( a 
little different than a computer ), but using the jumper setting I 
mentioned the emax will think there's a floppy, so it works.

Tnaks  


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "gray" <gray@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to make the emax "detect" a floppy drive even if 
it's 
> not there? (maybe there's a "loop" after connecting the cable that 
> senses there's a drive connected?)
> 
> Most keyboards are basically a computer.....and like a motherboard 
that 
> looks for the boot disk because its part of the bios....the ROM of 
a synth
> looks every time for the boot drive.....because its part of the OS 
of the
> synth.....I don't think you can X it out.......unless the E synth 
lets you pick the
> boot drive in the OS and save as boot drive the zip......or the 
cable you 
> are using to plug the zip into how ever that would be list in the 
Emu OS bios.....
> if it lets you pick and choose the boot drive or first boot item 
what ever that
> would be....Zip/HD/Floppy upon cutting the Emu on it would go to 
the Zip
> if chosen in bios as the boot disk.....
> gray
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: brainztain 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:41 AM
>   Subject: [emax] Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - 
Need some advice
> 
> 
>   Hi,
> 
>   I want to completely remove the floppy drive from my Emax HD 
because I 
>   don't need it and will be using an internal zip drive, but it 
doesn't 
>   seem to get passed the "diagnostics" screen when I do that. I've 
read 
>   most of the posts that have anything to do with this matter but I 
>   haven't found anything helpful.
> 
>   Is there a way to make the emax "detect" a floppy drive even if 
it's 
>   not there? (maybe there's a "loop" after connecting the cable 
that 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>   senses there's a drive connected?)
> 
>   Any help is welcome.
> 
>   Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [emax] Re: Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - Need some advice

2006-06-29 by gray

I missed that what is the jumper setting on????
gray
The emax will not boot from anything unless it detects a floppy ( a 
little different than a computer ), but using the jumper setting I 
mentioned the emax will think there's a floppy, so it works.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: brainztain 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:03 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - Need some advice


  The emax will not boot from anything unless it detects a floppy ( a 
  little different than a computer ), but using the jumper setting I 
  mentioned the emax will think there's a floppy, so it works.

  Tnaks 

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "gray" <gray@...> wrote:
  >
  > Is there a way to make the emax "detect" a floppy drive even if 
  it's 
  > not there? (maybe there's a "loop" after connecting the cable that 
  > senses there's a drive connected?)
  > 
  > Most keyboards are basically a computer.....and like a motherboard 
  that 
  > looks for the boot disk because its part of the bios....the ROM of 
  a synth
  > looks every time for the boot drive.....because its part of the OS 
  of the
  > synth.....I don't think you can X it out.......unless the E synth 
  lets you pick the
  > boot drive in the OS and save as boot drive the zip......or the 
  cable you 
  > are using to plug the zip into how ever that would be list in the 
  Emu OS bios.....
  > if it lets you pick and choose the boot drive or first boot item 
  what ever that
  > would be....Zip/HD/Floppy upon cutting the Emu on it would go to 
  the Zip
  > if chosen in bios as the boot disk.....
  > gray
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: brainztain 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:41 AM
  > Subject: [emax] Using an Emax HD without a floppy disk drive - 
  Need some advice
  > 
  > 
  > Hi,
  > 
  > I want to completely remove the floppy drive from my Emax HD 
  because I 
  > don't need it and will be using an internal zip drive, but it 
  doesn't 
  > seem to get passed the "diagnostics" screen when I do that. I've 
  read 
  > most of the posts that have anything to do with this matter but I 
  > haven't found anything helpful.
  > 
  > Is there a way to make the emax "detect" a floppy drive even if 
  it's 
  > not there? (maybe there's a "loop" after connecting the cable 
  that 
  > senses there's a drive connected?)
  > 
  > Any help is welcome.
  > 
  > Thanks.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >



   

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