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HD capacity

2007-10-05 by johnbrit2002

Hi - anyone know what the largest hard drive an Emax II can access? I
tried putting in a 4Gb drive and it aborted the format after about ten
minutes. Put in a 700Mb and it was happy with that but it is ten years
old so I dunno how much longer it will survive.

Thanks
John Williams

Re: [emax] HD capacity

2007-10-05 by Tristan Upton

Hi John, 

I believe the maxiumu HD size is around 540MB on the Emax II. You might want 
to look into replacing the hard disk with a SCSI flash drive. A 512MB flash 
card could then be used. 

Regards, 

Tristan 

johnbrit2002 writes: 
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> Hi - anyone know what the largest hard drive an Emax II can access? I
> tried putting in a 4Gb drive and it aborted the format after about ten
> minutes. Put in a 700Mb and it was happy with that but it is ten years
> old so I dunno how much longer it will survive. 
> 
> Thanks
> John Williams 
>

HD capacity

2007-10-06 by johnbrit2002

Thanks Tristan. The flash drive is a great idea and one I hadn't
thought of. As I said, I have a 700Mb HD in my Emax II now and it is
perfectly happy so 540 would not seem to be the limit. Thanks again
JW

Re: [emax] HD capacity

2007-10-06 by Tristan Upton

Hi John, 

Have you managed to actually fill the drive though? I remember reading some 
time back that although the Emax II could save 100 banks, with up to 8MB per 
bank, the total that could be stored on one hard disk was limited to 540MB 
total. It may well be that a drive of over 540MB in size can be formatted 
but will it all be usable. Maybe you could try and see? 

Regards, 

Tristan 

Saturday, October 6, 2007, 4:48:01 PM, you wrote: 

>
Thanks Tristan. The flash drive is a great idea and one I hadn't
thought of. As I said, I have a 700Mb HD in my Emax II now and it is
perfectly happy so 540 would not seem to be the limit. Thanks again
JW

Re: HD capacity

2007-10-06 by esynthesist

EmaxII can certainly access more than 540 MB of hard disk space.
In fact the EMAX-II file access table of harddisks and CDs can handle 
almost any size. 
Of course any space more than 850 MB wouldn't make a lot of sense 
since a total of 100 banks (of max 8MB each) + some index data is the 
max. useful space for any EMAX-II.
However it seems that the physical format procedure built in the Emax-
II OS is limited in its physical access, i.e. when the disk is too 
large the EMAX-II can't get an estimate of the physical disk space 
and hence it does not succeed in formatting the disk. That's a shame 
really, because for sure the logical disk layout and file access 
table have been designed for larger disks.
In practice it seems that drives > 1GB cause problems on Emax-II, 
probably because the OS didn't think that such drives would ever 
exist :-)
Anyway, I have an EMAX-II CD-ROM here which is logically formatted 
for 632 MB and the EMAX-II is perfectly able to access this space 
completely.
(You can try yourself by making a 632 MB CD-ROM image with EMXP and 
filling it with > 70 banks of 8MB).
Note also that the Emulator-III uses the exact same disk layout 
scheme as the EMAX-II; the EmuIII can access even larger sizes... If 
I remember well I've heard of someone using Iomega Jaz 2GB disks on 
his EmuIII. But of course the EmuIII OS is not the same as the Emax-
II OS...

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan Upton" <tu@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John, 
> 
> Have you managed to actually fill the drive though? I remember 
reading some 
> time back that although the Emax II could save 100 banks, with up 
to 8MB per 
> bank, the total that could be stored on one hard disk was limited 
to 540MB 
> total. It may well be that a drive of over 540MB in size can be 
formatted 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> but will it all be usable. Maybe you could try and see? 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Tristan 
> 
> Saturday, October 6, 2007, 4:48:01 PM, you wrote: 
> 
> >
> Thanks Tristan. The flash drive is a great idea and one I hadn't
> thought of. As I said, I have a 700Mb HD in my Emax II now and it is
> perfectly happy so 540 would not seem to be the limit. Thanks again
> JW
>

Re: HD capacity

2007-10-06 by Tristan Upton

Interesting, I was not aware of that. So, do you know what maximum capacity 
the Emax II can physically format a hard disk to? Is it possible to use EMXP 
to format a hard disk to 850MB and then have the Emax II access it? 

Regards, 

Tristan 


esynthesist writes: 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> EmaxII can certainly access more than 540 MB of hard disk space.
> In fact the EMAX-II file access table of harddisks and CDs can handle 
> almost any size. 
> Of course any space more than 850 MB wouldn't make a lot of sense 
> since a total of 100 banks (of max 8MB each) + some index data is the 
> max. useful space for any EMAX-II.
> However it seems that the physical format procedure built in the Emax-
> II OS is limited in its physical access, i.e. when the disk is too 
> large the EMAX-II can't get an estimate of the physical disk space 
> and hence it does not succeed in formatting the disk. That's a shame 
> really, because for sure the logical disk layout and file access 
> table have been designed for larger disks.
> In practice it seems that drives > 1GB cause problems on Emax-II, 
> probably because the OS didn't think that such drives would ever 
> exist :-)
> Anyway, I have an EMAX-II CD-ROM here which is logically formatted 
> for 632 MB and the EMAX-II is perfectly able to access this space 
> completely.
> (You can try yourself by making a 632 MB CD-ROM image with EMXP and 
> filling it with > 70 banks of 8MB).
> Note also that the Emulator-III uses the exact same disk layout 
> scheme as the EMAX-II; the EmuIII can access even larger sizes... If 
> I remember well I've heard of someone using Iomega Jaz 2GB disks on 
> his EmuIII. But of course the EmuIII OS is not the same as the Emax-
> II OS... 
> 
> ///E-Synthesist 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan Upton" <tu@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,  
>> 
>> Have you managed to actually fill the drive though? I remember 
> reading some 
>> time back that although the Emax II could save 100 banks, with up 
> to 8MB per 
>> bank, the total that could be stored on one hard disk was limited 
> to 540MB 
>> total. It may well be that a drive of over 540MB in size can be 
> formatted 
>> but will it all be usable. Maybe you could try and see?  
>> 
>> Regards,  
>> 
>> Tristan  
>> 
>> Saturday, October 6, 2007, 4:48:01 PM, you wrote:  
>> 
>> >
>> Thanks Tristan. The flash drive is a great idea and one I hadn't
>> thought of. As I said, I have a 700Mb HD in my Emax II now and it is
>> perfectly happy so 540 would not seem to be the limit. Thanks again
>> JW 
>>
>  
>

Re: HD capacity

2007-10-07 by esynthesist

I don't know the maximum size, the biggest one I've seen so far is 
632 MB (CDROM), but that's because I don't have any HD here of more 
than 510 MB, so I can't test larger sizes. Maybe I'll try to use a 
1GB jaz drive once and see what happens :-)

EMXP can not format harddisks itself. It can however create 
diskimages which should be restored to EMAX formatted disks. 
For some disks it may be OK to simply format them on a Mac or PC 
first and then copy the image to that disk with EMXP. 
But I'm using ZIP disks and I know that these disks HAVE to be 
formatted on an EMAX-II first. If they have been only DOS formatted, 
the restore may succeed in EMXP but the EMAX-II will still report 
that the disk is "not an EMAX drive".

The maximum imagesize that can be created by EMXP for EMAX-II is 
632MB. I'd love to support larger sizes, but I always need at least 
one disk that has been formatted to size X before I can built in 
support for size X in EMXP. That's because I "only" have 99.99% of 
the specifications of the EMAX-II disklayout. The last 0.01% are two 
bytes (!) for which I have no algorithm or description and which 
(unfortunately) are important to avoid the "Not an EMAX drive" error. 
Since I'm missing the algorithm to create these bytes, I'm simply 
hard copying them from the example disks I have :-)

So if anyone succeeded in formatting REMOVABLE disks or are using 
CD's with other sizes than 100MB (zip), 250MB (zip) and 632MB (CD) 
they're welcome to contact me :-) 

Regards

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan Upton" <tu@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting, I was not aware of that. So, do you know what maximum 
capacity 
> the Emax II can physically format a hard disk to? Is it possible to 
use EMXP 
> to format a hard disk to 850MB and then have the Emax II access it? 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Tristan 
> 
> 
> esynthesist writes: 
> 
> > EmaxII can certainly access more than 540 MB of hard disk space.
> > In fact the EMAX-II file access table of harddisks and CDs can 
handle 
> > almost any size. 
> > Of course any space more than 850 MB wouldn't make a lot of sense 
> > since a total of 100 banks (of max 8MB each) + some index data is 
the 
> > max. useful space for any EMAX-II.
> > However it seems that the physical format procedure built in the 
Emax-
> > II OS is limited in its physical access, i.e. when the disk is 
too 
> > large the EMAX-II can't get an estimate of the physical disk 
space 
> > and hence it does not succeed in formatting the disk. That's a 
shame 
> > really, because for sure the logical disk layout and file access 
> > table have been designed for larger disks.
> > In practice it seems that drives > 1GB cause problems on Emax-II, 
> > probably because the OS didn't think that such drives would ever 
> > exist :-)
> > Anyway, I have an EMAX-II CD-ROM here which is logically 
formatted 
> > for 632 MB and the EMAX-II is perfectly able to access this space 
> > completely.
> > (You can try yourself by making a 632 MB CD-ROM image with EMXP 
and 
> > filling it with > 70 banks of 8MB).
> > Note also that the Emulator-III uses the exact same disk layout 
> > scheme as the EMAX-II; the EmuIII can access even larger sizes... 
If 
> > I remember well I've heard of someone using Iomega Jaz 2GB disks 
on 
> > his EmuIII. But of course the EmuIII OS is not the same as the 
Emax-
> > II OS... 
> > 
> > ///E-Synthesist 
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan Upton" <tu@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi John,  
> >> 
> >> Have you managed to actually fill the drive though? I remember 
> > reading some 
> >> time back that although the Emax II could save 100 banks, with 
up 
> > to 8MB per 
> >> bank, the total that could be stored on one hard disk was 
limited 
> > to 540MB 
> >> total. It may well be that a drive of over 540MB in size can be 
> > formatted 
> >> but will it all be usable. Maybe you could try and see?  
> >> 
> >> Regards,  
> >> 
> >> Tristan  
> >> 
> >> Saturday, October 6, 2007, 4:48:01 PM, you wrote:  
> >> 
> >> >
> >> Thanks Tristan. The flash drive is a great idea and one I hadn't
> >> thought of. As I said, I have a 700Mb HD in my Emax II now and 
it is
> >> perfectly happy so 540 would not seem to be the limit. Thanks 
again
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> >> JW 
> >>
> >  
> >
>

Emax Compact Flash

2007-10-07 by ted Summers

I think many of us would like this option and so I am seriously  
thinking about taking a plunge here.

Proposed Idea:

Get a SCSI to IDE converter ($40 on ebay) - up to $80 off online stores
Get a CF to IDE converter ($2-10$)

Connect them and see if that combo of the two works.
Has anyone tried this combo already and it not work?

If so- say something. If not I will probably move forward with this  
later this week.

Reasoning:

These are easily available for anyone on the group that would like  
the ease of use now.
The expense isn't that great, and you wouldn't have the concern of  
whether or not the used one off ebay worked, and also if used item is  
read-only.

I have a standard pc floppy (modified circuit) with a bracket in my  
emax. I would keep the floppy in so I can add banks easily from the  
emax, etc....

Think about it- no hard drive or zip drive to fail, only the flash  
(and availability of floppy)....
I hear quicker bank loading time....

All this sounds great. And there would be no extra holes, or card  
slots that aren't used, etc....

Regards,
Ted

Re: [emax] Re: HD capacity

2007-10-07 by Tristan Upton

Are the two unknown bytes in the format structure per bank/file or per disk? 
I guess they could be some kind of checksum. 

I have only ever had a 100MB Zip drive and an original 40MB hard disk 
working with my Emax II. As you said, the Zip disks need to be formatted on 
the Emax II to work. 

For some reason the SCSI CDROM drives I have tried do not work with the Emax 
II. I can import the Emax II CDROM banks into an Esi-2000 with the same 
drives but the Emax II cannot see them. 

I am planning to try a few different SCSI flash card options soon to see if 
I can get that to work instead. I have some 512MB, 1GB and 2GB compact flash 
cards so I could try formatting to larger capacities. I made a SCSI-IDE and 
IDE-CF setup that worked on my K2500X but the Emax II could not see it, it 
seemed like the same problem as with the CDROM drive. But if I can get it 
working I will try formatting larger capacity cards. 

Regards, 

Tristan 

When I get a chance I plan to try getting a 

Sunday, October 7, 2007, 12:46:31 PM, you wrote: 

>
I don't know the maximum size, the biggest one I've seen so far is
632 MB (CDROM), but that's because I don't have any HD here of more
than 510 MB, so I can't test larger sizes. Maybe I'll try to use a
1GB jaz drive once and see what happens :-) 

EMXP can not format harddisks itself. It can however create
diskimages which should be restored to EMAX formatted disks.
For some disks it may be OK to simply format them on a Mac or PC
first and then copy the image to that disk with EMXP.
But I'm using ZIP disks and I know that these disks HAVE to be
formatted on an EMAX-II first. If they have been only DOS formatted,
the restore may succeed in EMXP but the EMAX-II will still report
that the disk is "not an EMAX drive". 

The maximum imagesize that can be created by EMXP for EMAX-II is
632MB. I'd love to support larger sizes, but I always need at least
one disk that has been formatted to size X before I can built in
support for size X in EMXP. That's because I "only" have 99.99% of
the specifications of the EMAX-II disklayout. The last 0.01% are two
bytes (!) for which I have no algorithm or description and which
(unfortunately) are important to avoid the "Not an EMAX drive" error.
Since I'm missing the algorithm to create these bytes, I'm simply
hard copying them from the example disks I have :-) 

So if anyone succeeded in formatting REMOVABLE disks or are using
CD's with other sizes than 100MB (zip), 250MB (zip) and 632MB (CD)
they're welcome to contact me :-) 

Regards 

///E-Synthesist 

 --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan Upton" <tu@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting, I was not aware of that. So, do you know what maximum 
capacity
> the Emax II can physically format a hard disk to? Is it possible to 
use EMXP
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> to format a hard disk to 850MB and then have the Emax II access it?  
> 
> Regards,  
> 
> Tristan  
> 
>

Re: [emax] Emax Compact Flash

2007-10-17 by Dave Sotnick

Hi Ted,

Not sure if you have had the time to try this yet, but I just ordered the
items you suggested below and will be trying it out next week when the parts
arrive.

I'll be sure to let the list know how/if it works.

-Dave

On 10/7/07, ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>
>   I think many of us would like this option and so I am seriously
> thinking about taking a plunge here.
>
> Proposed Idea:
>
> Get a SCSI to IDE converter ($40 on ebay) - up to $80 off online stores
> Get a CF to IDE converter ($2-10$)
>
> Connect them and see if that combo of the two works.
> Has anyone tried this combo already and it not work?
>
> If so- say something. If not I will probably move forward with this
> later this week.
>
> Reasoning:
>
> These are easily available for anyone on the group that would like
> the ease of use now.
> The expense isn't that great, and you wouldn't have the concern of
> whether or not the used one off ebay worked, and also if used item is
> read-only.
>
> I have a standard pc floppy (modified circuit) with a bracket in my
> emax. I would keep the floppy in so I can add banks easily from the
> emax, etc....
>
> Think about it- no hard drive or zip drive to fail, only the flash
> (and availability of floppy)....
> I hear quicker bank loading time....
>
> All this sounds great. And there would be no extra holes, or card
> slots that aren't used, etc....
>
> Regards,
> Ted
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [emax] Emax Compact Flash

2007-10-17 by s*

Hi Dave,

That sounds great.  I wonder if you will run into any SCSI termination
issues?  From what I understand the SCSI needs to be terminated at the end
of the chain/disk drive (or solid state media r/w in this case).  Hopefully
this will still be possible with an IDE device.

-s*

On 10/17/07, Dave Sotnick <sotnickd@...> wrote:
>
>   Hi Ted,
>
> Not sure if you have had the time to try this yet, but I just ordered the
> items you suggested below and will be trying it out next week when the
> parts
> arrive.
>
> I'll be sure to let the list know how/if it works.
>
> -Dave
>
>
> On 10/7/07, ted Summers <djtbs1@... <djtbs1%40qwest.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I think many of us would like this option and so I am seriously
> > thinking about taking a plunge here.
> >
> > Proposed Idea:
> >
> > Get a SCSI to IDE converter ($40 on ebay) - up to $80 off online stores
> > Get a CF to IDE converter ($2-10$)
> >
> > Connect them and see if that combo of the two works.
> > Has anyone tried this combo already and it not work?
> >
> > If so- say something. If not I will probably move forward with this
> > later this week.
> >
> > Reasoning:
> >
> > These are easily available for anyone on the group that would like
> > the ease of use now.
> > The expense isn't that great, and you wouldn't have the concern of
> > whether or not the used one off ebay worked, and also if used item is
> > read-only.
> >
> > I have a standard pc floppy (modified circuit) with a bracket in my
> > emax. I would keep the floppy in so I can add banks easily from the
> > emax, etc....
> >
> > Think about it- no hard drive or zip drive to fail, only the flash
> > (and availability of floppy)....
> > I hear quicker bank loading time....
> >
> > All this sounds great. And there would be no extra holes, or card
> > slots that aren't used, etc....
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ted
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Re: [emax] Emax Compact Flash

2007-10-17 by Dave Sotnick

The SCSI-IDE bridge I ordered (ACARD AEC7720U) includes a jumper which
provides SCSI bus termination.

I just hope the SCSI-IDE bridge recognizes the CF-IDE converter!

On 10/17/07, s* <scart@...> wrote:
>
>   Hi Dave,
>
> That sounds great. I wonder if you will run into any SCSI termination
> issues? From what I understand the SCSI needs to be terminated at the end
> of the chain/disk drive (or solid state media r/w in this case). Hopefully
> this will still be possible with an IDE device.
>
> -s*
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [emax] Emax Compact Flash

2007-10-18 by ted Summers

Dave-

I was going to do this last week, but have other home construction  
things going on, so it is taking a back seat. But I anxiously await  
your findings.

Regards,
Ted

On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Dave Sotnick wrote:

> The SCSI-IDE bridge I ordered (ACARD AEC7720U) includes a jumper which
> provides SCSI bus termination.
>
> I just hope the SCSI-IDE bridge recognizes the CF-IDE converter!
>
> On 10/17/07, s* <scart@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > That sounds great. I wonder if you will run into any SCSI  
> termination
> > issues? From what I understand the SCSI needs to be terminated at  
> the end
> > of the chain/disk drive (or solid state media r/w in this case).  
> Hopefully
> > this will still be possible with an IDE device.
> >
> > -s*
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [emax] Emax Compact Flash

2007-10-27 by Dave Sotnick

It works!!!

I was really skeptical at first because the SCSI-IDE bridge arrived before
the Flash Reader, so I tried experimenting with IDE drives (> 1GB) and kept
getting "HD Error" from the Emax. I also had an old SanDisk 40MB IDE Flash
Drive (3.5" form factor), and this also would fail to format or be
recognized.

However... the "Desktop ATA Flash Reader/Drive with IDE interface" arrived
today and after all my tests thus far, it seems to be working fine with the
SCSI-IDE adapter and the Emax. I have a SanDisk PCMCIA-CF adapter with a
48MB SanDisk CF card in it.

I was able to hook my SCSI internal ZIP drive up along with the SCSI-IDE-CF
"rig" and perform a "Copy HD" operation from the ZIP to the CF card. Changed
the ID of the SCSI-IDE bridge to 0, rebooted the Emax, and up it came with a
full 35 banks at my disposal. And it's soooo quiet!

Total cost: $73.43.

-Dave

P.S. As a bonus, I found that both the SCSI-IDE bridge and the CF reader
don't use the 12v leg of their power supplies (these are typically used to
power drive motors), so I was able to rig up a cable to pull 5v from the
floppy power connector (yellow/green) on the Emax main board to power the
reader/bridge.

On 10/17/07, ted Summers < djtbs1@...> wrote:
>
>   Dave-
>
> I was going to do this last week, but have other home construction
> things going on, so it is taking a back seat. But I anxiously await
> your findings.
>
> Regards,
> Ted
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Dave Sotnick wrote:
>
> > The SCSI-IDE bridge I ordered (ACARD AEC7720U) includes a jumper which
> > provides SCSI bus termination.
> >
> > I just hope the SCSI-IDE bridge recognizes the CF-IDE converter!
> >
> > On 10/17/07, s* <scart@... <scart%40sympatico.ca>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > That sounds great. I wonder if you will run into any SCSI
> > termination
> > > issues? From what I understand the SCSI needs to be terminated at
> > the end
> > > of the chain/disk drive (or solid state media r/w in this case).
> > Hopefully
> > > this will still be possible with an IDE device.
> > >
> > > -s*
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Re: [emax] Emax Compact Flash

2007-10-27 by ted Summers

Can you confirm for us the part #'s you used?

Regards,
Ted

On Oct 26, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Dave Sotnick wrote:

> It works!!!
>
> I was really skeptical at first because the SCSI-IDE bridge arrived  
> before
> the Flash Reader, so I tried experimenting with IDE drives (> 1GB)  
> and kept
> getting "HD Error" from the Emax. I also had an old SanDisk 40MB  
> IDE Flash
> Drive (3.5" form factor), and this also would fail to format or be
> recognized.
>
> However... the "Desktop ATA Flash Reader/Drive with IDE interface"  
> arrived
> today and after all my tests thus far, it seems to be working fine  
> with the
> SCSI-IDE adapter and the Emax. I have a SanDisk PCMCIA-CF adapter  
> with a
> 48MB SanDisk CF card in it.
>
> I was able to hook my SCSI internal ZIP drive up along with the  
> SCSI-IDE-CF
> "rig" and perform a "Copy HD" operation from the ZIP to the CF  
> card. Changed
> the ID of the SCSI-IDE bridge to 0, rebooted the Emax, and up it  
> came with a
> full 35 banks at my disposal. And it's soooo quiet!
>
> Total cost: $73.43.
>
> -Dave
>
> P.S. As a bonus, I found that both the SCSI-IDE bridge and the CF  
> reader
> don't use the 12v leg of their power supplies (these are typically  
> used to
> power drive motors), so I was able to rig up a cable to pull 5v  
> from the
> floppy power connector (yellow/green) on the Emax main board to  
> power the
> reader/bridge.
>
> On 10/17/07, ted Summers < djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dave-
> >
> > I was going to do this last week, but have other home construction
> > things going on, so it is taking a back seat. But I anxiously await
> > your findings.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ted
> >
> >
> > On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Dave Sotnick wrote:
> >
> > > The SCSI-IDE bridge I ordered (ACARD AEC7720U) includes a  
> jumper which
> > > provides SCSI bus termination.
> > >
> > > I just hope the SCSI-IDE bridge recognizes the CF-IDE converter!
> > >
> > > On 10/17/07, s* <scart@... <scart%40sympatico.ca>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > >
> > > > That sounds great. I wonder if you will run into any SCSI
> > > termination
> > > > issues? From what I understand the SCSI needs to be  
> terminated at
> > > the end
> > > > of the chain/disk drive (or solid state media r/w in this case).
> > > Hopefully
> > > > this will still be possible with an IDE device.
> > > >
> > > > -s*
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> > >
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Re: [emax] Emax Compact Flash

2007-10-27 by Dave Sotnick

Sure, I used an "ACARD AEC-7720U" Bridge Adapter (SCSI-IDE) and an "IDE
Interface Flash Card Reader", not sure of the brand/model as I can't see any
identifying marks. The ebay auction called the device a "Desktop ATA Flash
Reader/Drive with IDE interface". I looked for one that had "hot plugging"
capability. Haven't tried that yet as I don't have more than one CF card
yet.

On 10/26/07, ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
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>   Can you confirm for us the part #'s you used?
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> Regards,
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Re: Emax Compact Flash

2007-11-13 by marc

i am going to try that on my emax too. trying to find this adaptor 
card in germany at the moment. 

i would be stoked if this solution also works internally in the akai 
mpc-3000/mpc-60 series, which i am considering buying next...

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Sotnick" <sotnickd@...> wrote:
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> Sure, I used an "ACARD AEC-7720U" Bridge Adapter (SCSI-IDE) and 
an "IDE
> Interface Flash Card Reader", not sure of the brand/model as I 
can't see any
> identifying marks. The ebay auction called the device a "Desktop 
ATA Flash
> Reader/Drive with IDE interface". I looked for one that had "hot 
plugging"
> capability. Haven't tried that yet as I don't have more than one CF 
card
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> On 10/26/07, ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
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> >   Can you confirm for us the part #'s you used?
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> > Regards,
> > Ted
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Re: [emax] Emax Compact Flash

2007-12-07 by Brian Broadt

just ordered a couple from ebay, if i can re-retrofit the emaxes from  
zip drives to these i will be so happy!
thanks guys!!!!

-Brian B
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On Oct 27, 2007, at 12:40 AM, ted Summers wrote:

> Can you confirm for us the part #'s you used?
>
> Regards,
> Ted
>
> On Oct 26, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Dave Sotnick wrote:
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> > It works!!!
> >
> > I was really skeptical at first because the SCSI-IDE bridge arrived
> > before
> > the Flash Reader, so I tried experimenting with IDE drives (> 1GB)
> > and kept
> > getting "HD Error" from the Emax. I also had an old SanDisk 40MB
> > IDE Flash
> > Drive (3.5" form factor), and this also would fail to format or be
> > recognized.
> >
> > However... the "Desktop ATA Flash Reader/Drive with IDE interface"
> > arrived
> > today and after all my tests thus far, it seems to be working fine
> > with the
> > SCSI-IDE adapter and the Emax. I have a SanDisk PCMCIA-CF adapter
> > with a
> > 48MB SanDisk CF card in it.
> >
> > I was able to hook my SCSI internal ZIP drive up along with the
> > SCSI-IDE-CF
> > "rig" and perform a "Copy HD" operation from the ZIP to the CF
> > card. Changed
> > the ID of the SCSI-IDE bridge to 0, rebooted the Emax, and up it
> > came with a
> > full 35 banks at my disposal. And it's soooo quiet!
> >
> > Total cost: $73.43.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > P.S. As a bonus, I found that both the SCSI-IDE bridge and the CF
> > reader
> > don't use the 12v leg of their power supplies (these are typically
> > used to
> > power drive motors), so I was able to rig up a cable to pull 5v
> > from the
> > floppy power connector (yellow/green) on the Emax main board to
> > power the
> > reader/bridge.
> >
> > On 10/17/07, ted Summers < djtbs1@...> wrote:
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> > > Dave-
> > >
> > > I was going to do this last week, but have other home construction
> > > things going on, so it is taking a back seat. But I anxiously  
> await
> > > your findings.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ted
> > >
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> > > On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Dave Sotnick wrote:
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> > > > The SCSI-IDE bridge I ordered (ACARD AEC7720U) includes a
> > jumper which
> > > > provides SCSI bus termination.
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> > > > I just hope the SCSI-IDE bridge recognizes the CF-IDE converter!
> > > >
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> wrote:
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> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds great. I wonder if you will run into any SCSI
> > > > termination
> > > > > issues? From what I understand the SCSI needs to be
> > terminated at
> > > > the end
> > > > > of the chain/disk drive (or solid state media r/w in this  
> case).
> > > > Hopefully
> > > > > this will still be possible with an IDE device.
> > > > >
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