Emax

Hi, 

i have an internal SCSI zip drive that i would like to install on my Emax 1 HD SE. I was just 
messing around with it tonight and i noticed that the Emax does not seem to boot from 
internal HD if the floppy is disconnected. IS there a workaround for this ? 
Otherwise i see no chance in installing the internal ZIP :(

Regards

Marc

I think if you search the archives, you'll find information on which
pins you need to short out on the Floppy drive header on the digital
board of the Emax. Once you short these pins, the Emax will boot
without the need for a floppy drive.

Regards,
Dave

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:22 PM, marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i have an internal SCSI zip drive that i would like to install on my Emax 1
> HD SE. I was just
> messing around with it tonight and i noticed that the Emax does not seem to
> boot from
> internal HD if the floppy is disconnected. IS there a workaround for this ?
> Otherwise i see no chance in installing the internal ZIP :(
>
> Regards
>
> Marc

Thanks for the info, do you have a link/topic number for this? i tried searching but i could 
not find it. 

Regards 

Marc--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Sotnick" <sotnickd@...> wrote:

>
> I think if you search the archives, you'll find information on which
> pins you need to short out on the Floppy drive header on the digital
> board of the Emax. Once you short these pins, the Emax will boot
> without the need for a floppy drive.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:22 PM, marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > i have an internal SCSI zip drive that i would like to install on my Emax 1
> > HD SE. I was just
> > messing around with it tonight and i noticed that the Emax does not seem to
> > boot from
> > internal HD if the floppy is disconnected. IS there a workaround for this ?
> > Otherwise i see no chance in installing the internal ZIP :(
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Marc
>

I found it in my own mail archive (thanks, gmail!) -- you need to
jumper pins 25 and 26 together.

Since it's a 34-pin connector, I believe you will have a jumper on the
5th set of pins from the end (25/16).

-Dave

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:26 PM, marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:
> Thanks for the info, do you have a link/topic number for this? i tried
> searching but i could
> not find it.

Dave, 

thanks for the info. Sorry for asking but where exactly do i have to Jumper those pins together ? on the mainboard ? 

regards 

Marc


--- Dave Sotnick <sotnickd@...> schrieb am Do, 25.9.2008:

> Von: Dave Sotnick <sotnickd@...>
> Betreff: Re: [emax] Re: Internal Scsi Zipdrive possible with Emax ?
> An: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Datum: Donnerstag, 25. September 2008, 23:10
> I found it in my own mail archive (thanks, gmail!) -- you
> need to
> jumper pins 25 and 26 together.
> 
> Since it's a 34-pin connector, I believe you will have
> a jumper on the
> 5th set of pins from the end (25/16).
> 
> -Dave
> 
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:26 PM, marc
> <marc_sps@...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the info, do you have a link/topic number
> for this? i tried
> > searching but i could
> > not find it.

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It is now possible to re-create the SCSI chip sets required to put  
SCSI into Emax I keyboard and rack units.


The SAME RULES APPLY that did before as per the SCSI upgrade docs at  
Emulator Archive-
a rev 3 board will take the chips- no mods if I recall.....
a rev 2 board needs modified

A rev1 cannot be upgraded.

I have PALs in stock.

I can make the EPROMs and I can source the SCSI controllers.

I need to find out how many people want this kit, so I can order  
EPROMs and SCSI controllers that will be needed.

The number of EPROMs and controllers will somewhat dictate the price,  
as sourcing the SCSI controllers will be the unknown variable at this  
point.

The cost of the kit is expected to be $50 USD + shipping - depending  
on what the controllers cost.

Here is your chance to get SCSI!

THIS SET DOES NOT INCLUDE A HARD DISK- but can be used with SCSI Zip,  
SCSI Compact Flash / SD, SCSI hard drive, etc.   IDE CF works via an  
ACARD SCSI adapter.....


For testing purposes I purchased two controllers and EPROMS, so I  
currently have two sets available now for $50 USD +shipping.

First come first serve.

Once the controllers and EPROMS are ordered, I should have enough kit  
to make about 45 sets with current PAL inventory.

Each set of chips will be tested in my Emax to verify operation prior  
to shipping.


Regards,
Ted

PS- Thanks go out to:
Rob at Emulator Archive for getting me the binaries
The MAME (Arcade Emulation) "ROM dumps" team members who helped me  
determine what was not quite right with those PAL binaries, enabling  
us all to add SCSI once again.

Ted,

This is fantastic news! I had no idea this was even possible or that
anyone had binaries for the PALs.

Had I not gone through the "proper channels" (E-Mu shipped me chips)
in 1991 I'd be all over this!

Glad to see others will finally be able to SCSI-ify their Emaxes.

Regards,
Dave

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> It is now possible to re-create the SCSI chip sets required to put
> SCSI into Emax I keyboard and rack units.
>
> The SAME RULES APPLY that did before as per the SCSI upgrade docs at
> Emulator Archive-
> a rev 3 board will take the chips- no mods if I recall.....
> a rev 2 board needs modified
>
> A rev1 cannot be upgraded.
>
> I have PALs in stock.
>
> I can make the EPROMs and I can source the SCSI controllers.
>
> I need to find out how many people want this kit, so I can order
> EPROMs and SCSI controllers that will be needed.
>
> The number of EPROMs and controllers will somewhat dictate the price,
> as sourcing the SCSI controllers will be the unknown variable at this
> point.
>
> The cost of the kit is expected to be $50 USD + shipping - depending
> on what the controllers cost.
>
> Here is your chance to get SCSI!
>
> THIS SET DOES NOT INCLUDE A HARD DISK- but can be used with SCSI Zip,
> SCSI Compact Flash / SD, SCSI hard drive, etc. IDE CF works via an
> ACARD SCSI adapter.....
>
> For testing purposes I purchased two controllers and EPROMS, so I
> currently have two sets available now for $50 USD +shipping.
>
> First come first serve.
>
> Once the controllers and EPROMS are ordered, I should have enough kit
> to make about 45 sets with current PAL inventory.
>
> Each set of chips will be tested in my Emax to verify operation prior
> to shipping.
>
> Regards,
> Ted
>
> PS- Thanks go out to:
> Rob at Emulator Archive for getting me the binaries
> The MAME (Arcade Emulation) "ROM dumps" team members who helped me
> determine what was not quite right with those PAL binaries, enabling
> us all to add SCSI once again.
>
>

Hello,

    Put me down for two of these kits.

Thanks,
Chase Smith

Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:                             It is now possible to re-create the SCSI chip sets required to put  
 SCSI into Emax I keyboard and rack units.
 
 The SAME RULES APPLY that did before as per the SCSI upgrade docs at  
 Emulator Archive-
 a rev 3 board will take the chips- no mods if I recall.....
 a rev 2 board needs modified
 
 A rev1 cannot be upgraded.
 
 I have PALs in stock.
 
 I can make the EPROMs and I can source the SCSI controllers.
 
 I need to find out how many people want this kit, so I can order  
 EPROMs and SCSI controllers that will be needed.
 
 The number of EPROMs and controllers will somewhat dictate the price,  
 as sourcing the SCSI controllers will be the unknown variable at this  
 point.
 
 The cost of the kit is expected to be $50 USD + shipping - depending  
 on what the controllers cost.
 
 Here is your chance to get SCSI!
 
 THIS SET DOES NOT INCLUDE A HARD DISK- but can be used with SCSI Zip,  
 SCSI Compact Flash / SD, SCSI hard drive, etc.   IDE CF works via an  
 ACARD SCSI adapter.....
 
 For testing purposes I purchased two controllers and EPROMS, so I  
 currently have two sets available now for $50 USD +shipping.
 
 First come first serve.
 
 Once the controllers and EPROMS are ordered, I should have enough kit  
 to make about 45 sets with current PAL inventory.
 
 Each set of chips will be tested in my Emax to verify operation prior  
 to shipping.
 
 Regards,
 Ted
 
 PS- Thanks go out to:
 Rob at Emulator Archive for getting me the binaries
 The MAME (Arcade Emulation) "ROM dumps" team members who helped me  
 determine what was not quite right with those PAL binaries, enabling  
 us all to add SCSI once again.
 
 
     
                                       

       

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Hello Ted,

Great thanks and much gratitude for your research on this. It's
excellent news...
Please put down for at least one. My Emax I can't wait!

Hi Marc,

Yes, remove the Floppy Drive ribbon cable, noting where pin 1 (red
stripe wire) is. Like so (sorry for the bad ascii art):

1                                   33
.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
2                                   34

Place jumper between pins 25/26 on motherboard where you just removed cable.

-Dave

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:35 PM, marc sps <marc_sps@...> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> thanks for the info. Sorry for asking but where exactly do i have to Jumper
> those pins together ? on the mainboard ?
>
> regards
>
> Marc
>
> --- Dave Sotnick <sotnickd@...> schrieb am Do, 25.9.2008:
>
>> Von: Dave Sotnick <sotnickd@...>
>> Betreff: Re: [emax] Re: Internal Scsi Zipdrive possible with Emax ?
>> An: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> Datum: Donnerstag, 25. September 2008, 23:10
>
>> I found it in my own mail archive (thanks, gmail!) -- you
>> need to
>> jumper pins 25 and 26 together.
>>
>> Since it's a 34-pin connector, I believe you will have
>> a jumper on the
>> 5th set of pins from the end (25/16).
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:26 PM, marc
>> <marc_sps@...> wrote:
>> > Thanks for the info, do you have a link/topic number
>> for this? i tried
>> > searching but i could
>> > not find it.
>
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That's great work, Ted.

It's good to see someone still supporting (IMHO) completely viable technology, unlike 
many manufacturers who want you to upgrade to the 'latest and greatest'...

Tom



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:

>
> It is now possible to re-create the SCSI chip sets required to put  
> SCSI into Emax I keyboard and rack units.
> 
> 
> The SAME RULES APPLY that did before as per the SCSI upgrade docs at  
> Emulator Archive-
> a rev 3 board will take the chips- no mods if I recall.....
> a rev 2 board needs modified
> 
> A rev1 cannot be upgraded.
> 
> I have PALs in stock.
> 
> I can make the EPROMs and I can source the SCSI controllers.
> 
> I need to find out how many people want this kit, so I can order  
> EPROMs and SCSI controllers that will be needed.
> 
> The number of EPROMs and controllers will somewhat dictate the price,  
> as sourcing the SCSI controllers will be the unknown variable at this  
> point.
> 
> The cost of the kit is expected to be $50 USD + shipping - depending  
> on what the controllers cost.
> 
> Here is your chance to get SCSI!
> 
> THIS SET DOES NOT INCLUDE A HARD DISK- but can be used with SCSI Zip,  
> SCSI Compact Flash / SD, SCSI hard drive, etc.   IDE CF works via an  
> ACARD SCSI adapter.....
> 
> 
> For testing purposes I purchased two controllers and EPROMS, so I  
> currently have two sets available now for $50 USD +shipping.
> 
> First come first serve.
> 
> Once the controllers and EPROMS are ordered, I should have enough kit  
> to make about 45 sets with current PAL inventory.
> 
> Each set of chips will be tested in my Emax to verify operation prior  
> to shipping.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Ted
> 
> PS- Thanks go out to:
> Rob at Emulator Archive for getting me the binaries
> The MAME (Arcade Emulation) "ROM dumps" team members who helped me  
> determine what was not quite right with those PAL binaries, enabling  
> us all to add SCSI once again.
>

In case you are wondering if the SCSI upgrade offered by Ted Summers (djtbs1@...) works, then I am here to tell you that it does.

I purchased the two initial kits from him and upgraded my Rev. 2 digital board Emax with it via the pdf from the emulator archive.  Got it up and running a few moments ago and now the only thing left is to figure out how to slightly widen the hole on the front (it is a rack model) so that I can eject a zip disk (I am going to use an internal zip and do away with the floppy).  

Has anyone done this before to accommodate the extra width of the zip?  I would like to do this with as minimal cosmetic damage as possible, but I guess there isn't much else I can do except file the sides down.

Thanks,
Chase


       

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I also had to file a notch in each of the sides of the floppy opening
to accommodate the width of the ZIP disks themselves.

It doesn't look too bad.

-Dave

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Chase Smith <plus_321@...> wrote:

> Has anyone done this before to accommodate the extra width of the zip? I
> would like to do this with as minimal cosmetic damage as possible, but I
> guess there isn't much else I can do except file the sides down.
>
> Thanks,
> Chase