Yahoo Groups archive

Emax

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:23 UTC

Thread

How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-25 by dutchbeats

If the floppy drive has been replaced with an internal CF drive, how do you get the operating system onto the CF card and also format it? Cheers

Re: [emax] How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-25 by Elk Latham

After formatting the CF card, you can use the copy software functions in the master section to copy the OS to the CF card.




________________________________
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...>
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:18:58 PM
Subject: [emax] How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

  
If the floppy drive has been replaced with an internal CF drive, how do you get the operating system onto the CF card and also format it? Cheers




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-25 by Everett

I booted with my floppy drive still in the system to format the cf card, then moved the whole flash drive over to the scsi bus in my pc thinking that I had to copy the software to it using EMXP.  At that point I realized that formatting the drive in the machine copies the OS to it and makes it bootable (EMXP recognized the OS).  If I would have just changed my SCSI boot device that round and rebooted the EMAX I would have been booting from the CF card.  I have an EMAX II in case you're wondering.

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Elk Latham <elk_latham@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> After formatting the CF card, you can use the copy software functions in the master section to copy the OS to the CF card.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...>
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:18:58 PM
> Subject: [emax] How to get the OS onto internal CF card?
> 
>   
> If the floppy drive has been replaced with an internal CF drive, how do you get the operating system onto the CF card and also format it? Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-25 by dutchbeats

So one would need to keep the floppy drive in so as to load up the OS into the machine just for the first CF card format; after that you can swap the CF card while the machine is booted in order to format and copy the OS to the next CF card once that one is full? Or can you not take out the CF card when the machine is on?  




--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Everett" <evy_newt@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I booted with my floppy drive still in the system to format the cf card, then moved the whole flash drive over to the scsi bus in my pc thinking that I had to copy the software to it using EMXP.  At that point I realized that formatting the drive in the machine copies the OS to it and makes it bootable (EMXP recognized the OS).  If I would have just changed my SCSI boot device that round and rebooted the EMAX I would have been booting from the CF card.  I have an EMAX II in case you're wondering.
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Elk Latham <elk_latham@> wrote:
> >
> > After formatting the CF card, you can use the copy software functions in the master section to copy the OS to the CF card.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: dutchbeats <dutchbeats@>
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:18:58 PM
> > Subject: [emax] How to get the OS onto internal CF card?
> > 
> >   
> > If the floppy drive has been replaced with an internal CF drive, how do you get the operating system onto the CF card and also format it? Cheers
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Re: [emax] Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-25 by Ted Summers

You won't be able to swap out CF cards like you are describing. That  
is why I sell a floppy converter.
So you still have a slim floppy to boot, format, etc.
Especially in event of trouble.
But don't need the floppy most of the time.

I don't know why people didn't go to the link I sent with the PICS of  
it in my posts, or read my previous post where I describe this, but  
here the link is again:
http://djtbs1.spaces.live.com/

pic #4 at the bottom

Regards,
Ted


On Oct 25, 2009, at 9:12 AM, dutchbeats wrote:

So one would need to keep the floppy drive in so as to load up the OS  
into the machine just for the first CF card format; after that you can  
swap the CF card while the machine is booted in order to format and  
copy the OS to the next CF card once that one is full? Or can you not  
take out the CF card when the machine is on?

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Everett" <evy_newt@...> wrote:
 >
 > I booted with my floppy drive still in the system to format the cf  
card, then moved the whole flash drive over to the scsi bus in my pc  
thinking that I had to copy the software to it using EMXP. At that  
point I realized that formatting the drive in the machine copies the  
OS to it and makes it bootable (EMXP recognized the OS). If I would  
have just changed my SCSI boot device that round and rebooted the EMAX  
I would have been booting from the CF card. I have an EMAX II in case  
you're wondering.
 >
 > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Elk Latham <elk_latham@> wrote:
 > >
 > > After formatting the CF card, you can use the copy software  
functions in the master section to copy the OS to the CF card.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > ________________________________
 > > From: dutchbeats <dutchbeats@>
 > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
 > > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:18:58 PM
 > > Subject: [emax] How to get the OS onto internal CF card?
 > >
 > >
 > > If the floppy drive has been replaced with an internal CF drive,  
how do you get the operating system onto the CF card and also format  
it? Cheers
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 > >
 >






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-25 by dutchbeats

Thank you Ted! I am going to buy one as soon as I get an Emax. I bookmarked the page also. Sweet

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> You won't be able to swap out CF cards like you are describing. That  
> is why I sell a floppy converter.
> So you still have a slim floppy to boot, format, etc.
> Especially in event of trouble.
> But don't need the floppy most of the time.
> 
> I don't know why people didn't go to the link I sent with the PICS of  
> it in my posts, or read my previous post where I describe this, but  
> here the link is again:
> http://djtbs1.spaces.live.com/
> 
> pic #4 at the bottom
> 
> Regards,
> Ted
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2009, at 9:12 AM, dutchbeats wrote:
> 
> So one would need to keep the floppy drive in so as to load up the OS  
> into the machine just for the first CF card format; after that you can  
> swap the CF card while the machine is booted in order to format and  
> copy the OS to the next CF card once that one is full? Or can you not  
> take out the CF card when the machine is on?
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Everett" <evy_newt@> wrote:
>  >
>  > I booted with my floppy drive still in the system to format the cf  
> card, then moved the whole flash drive over to the scsi bus in my pc  
> thinking that I had to copy the software to it using EMXP. At that  
> point I realized that formatting the drive in the machine copies the  
> OS to it and makes it bootable (EMXP recognized the OS). If I would  
> have just changed my SCSI boot device that round and rebooted the EMAX  
> I would have been booting from the CF card. I have an EMAX II in case  
> you're wondering.
>  >
>  > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Elk Latham <elk_latham@> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > After formatting the CF card, you can use the copy software  
> functions in the master section to copy the OS to the CF card.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > ________________________________
>  > > From: dutchbeats <dutchbeats@>
>  > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>  > > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:18:58 PM
>  > > Subject: [emax] How to get the OS onto internal CF card?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > If the floppy drive has been replaced with an internal CF drive,  
> how do you get the operating system onto the CF card and also format  
> it? Cheers
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  > >
>  >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [emax] Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-26 by Julian

also, isn't there a problem that the emax1 wont boot off SCSI if there
is no floppy drive at all present? so if that's the case, at very least
you'd have to tuck away your old drive inside the emax to be able to use
it without the drive, anyway... :-) 



On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:25 -0700, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> You won't be able to swap out CF cards like you are describing. That  
> is why I sell a floppy converter.
> So you still have a slim floppy to boot, format, etc.
> Especially in event of trouble.
> But don't need the floppy most of the time.
> 
> I don't know why people didn't go to the link I sent with the PICS of  
> it in my posts, or read my previous post where I describe this, but  
> here the link is again:
> http://djtbs1.spaces.live.com/
> 
> pic #4 at the bottom
> 
> Regards,
> Ted
-- 
http://bleepin.com

-- 
http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...

Re: [emax] Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-26 by Elk Latham

emax I or emax II won't boot without an floppy drive connected.




________________________________
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: Julian <jujulilianan@...>
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:17:48 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

  
also, isn't there a problem that the emax1 wont boot off SCSI if there
is no floppy drive at all present? so if that's the case, at very least
you'd have to tuck away your old drive inside the emax to be able to use
it without the drive, anyway... :-) 

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:25 -0700, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@gmail. com> wrote:
> You won't be able to swap out CF cards like you are describing. That 
> is why I sell a floppy converter.
> So you still have a slim floppy to boot, format, etc.
> Especially in event of trouble.
> But don't need the floppy most of the time.
> 
> I don't know why people didn't go to the link I sent with the PICS of 
> it in my posts, or read my previous post where I describe this, but 
> here the link is again:
> http://djtbs1. spaces.live. com/
> 
> pic #4 at the bottom
> 
> Regards,
> Ted
-- 
http://bleepin. com

-- 
http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [emax] Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-26 by Dave Sotnick

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Elk Latham <elk_latham@...> wrote:
>
> emax I or emax II won't boot without an floppy drive connected.
>

This isnt strictly true. You can jumper pins 25/26 on the flopy drive
connector on the motherboard (it/s the /TRK0 sense pin which tells the
Emax the drive head is on Track 0). Once you do this, you'll be able
to boot the Emax with no floppy attached.

-Dave

Re: [emax] Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-26 by Elk Latham

Dave, 

Thanks for the info. I'll have to try this.

Elk




________________________________
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: Dave Sotnick <sotnickd@gmail..com>
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [emax] Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

  
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Elk Latham <elk_latham@sbcgloba l.net> wrote:
>
> emax I or emax II won't boot without an floppy drive connected.
>

This isnt strictly true. You can jumper pins 25/26 on the flopy drive
connector on the motherboard (it/s the /TRK0 sense pin which tells the
Emax the drive head is on Track 0). Once you do this, you'll be able
to boot the Emax with no floppy attached.

-Dave

__._,_..___
Messages in this topic (9) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic 
Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar 
Emax and Emax II User's Group Website

http://www.silveriafamily.com 
MARKETPLACE
Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other 
 
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) 
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional 
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe 
Recent Activity
	*  2
New Members
	*  1
New DatabaseVisit Your Group 
Yahoo! News
Odd News
You won't believe
it, but it's true
New web site?
Drive traffic now.
Get your business
on Yahoo! search.
Sell Online
Start selling with
our award-winning
e-commerce tools.
. 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: How to get the OS onto internal CF card?

2009-10-27 by Everett

Nice trick!  Would this bypass the floppy search in the beginning?  My machine always takes a minute to read the floppy even though I have the boot device as SCSI.

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Dave Sotnick <sotnickd@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Elk Latham <elk_latham@...> wrote:
> >
> > emax I or emax II won't boot without an floppy drive connected.
> >
> 
> This isnt strictly true. You can jumper pins 25/26 on the flopy drive
> connector on the motherboard (it/s the /TRK0 sense pin which tells the
> Emax the drive head is on Track 0). Once you do this, you'll be able
> to boot the Emax with no floppy attached.
> 
> -Dave
>

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.