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Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-21 by yojx

Hello,

My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.

So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.

Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?

Thanks

Re: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-21 by s*

I thought only the Turbo models sampled in stereo.  I have the same sampler
and it only samples in mono.  I've always just assumed that's how it works
because it is not a Turbo.

-s*

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, yojx <rapman@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hello,
>
> My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the
> sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.
>
> So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance,
> when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no
> Ster option.
>
> Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>


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Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-21 by yojx

Thanks for your answer :)

Ok, so you have the same issue. However, I think the 2213 model samples in stereo.

http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Samplers/Emax2Overview/emax2overview.html

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul98/articles/emuemax.html#


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> I thought only the Turbo models sampled in stereo.  I have the same sampler
> and it only samples in mono.  I've always just assumed that's how it works
> because it is not a Turbo.
> 
> -s*
> 
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, yojx <rapman@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the
> > sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.
> >
> > So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance,
> > when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no
> > Ster option.
> >
> > Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-21 by jammie

when recording in stereo it uses the pri for 1 channel and the sec for the other then they are panned left and right 

this is how a stereo sample is done 

its the same with the emax1 you can record stereo but you can play tereo files you just have to save each wavefile as a seperate mono file
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: yojx 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:40 PM
  Subject: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?


    Hello,

  My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.

  So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.

  Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?

  Thanks



  


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Re: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-21 by Elk Latham

Further more when placing stereo samples, you have to do it twice. Once for the pri sample, once for the sec sample.

Elk




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From: jammie <jammie.emma@...>
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:36:55 AM
Subject: Re: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

  
when recording in stereo it uses the pri for 1 channel and the sec for the other then they are panned left and right 

this is how a stereo sample is done 

its the same with the emax1 you can record stereo but you can play tereo files you just have to save each wavefile as a seperate mono file
----- Original Message ----- 
From: yojx 
To: emax@yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

Hello,

My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10..

So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.

Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?

Thanks

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Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by yojx

Ok, that's what I though. But, finally, I have to sample in mono ... twice ?


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> Further more when placing stereo samples, you have to do it twice. Once for the pri sample, once for the sec sample.
> 
> Elk
> 
> 
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> 
> ________________________________
> From: jammie <jammie.emma@...>
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:36:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?
> 
>   
> when recording in stereo it uses the pri for 1 channel and the sec for the other then they are panned left and right 
> 
> this is how a stereo sample is done 
> 
> its the same with the emax1 you can record stereo but you can play tereo files you just have to save each wavefile as a seperate mono file
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: yojx 
> To: emax@yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:40 PM
> Subject: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10..
> 
> So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.
> 
> Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by jammie

yes but obvouisly you need to sample left channel as a mono sample and assign it to pri

and then sample right channel as a mono sample and assign it to sec

then hard pan the pri channel hard left and the sec channel hard right most samplers do it this way 

excert they record it stereo then split it into 2 mono wave samples via onboard software

i use awave as you can record it in stereo through your sound card then you can split it into 2 mono files

then i use cooleditpro to converte sample rate to that of the emax then i use emxp to make a bank image file with my wave files setting the pri and the sec then i load the file into the emax for editing and for making patches
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  From: yojx 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:50 AM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?


    Ok, that's what I though. But, finally, I have to sample in mono ... twice ?

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Elk Latham <elk_latham@...> wrote:
  >
  > Further more when placing stereo samples, you have to do it twice. Once for the pri sample, once for the sec sample.
  > 
  > Elk
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > ________________________________
  > From: jammie <jammie.emma@...>
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:36:55 AM
  > Subject: Re: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?
  > 
  >   
  > when recording in stereo it uses the pri for 1 channel and the sec for the other then they are panned left and right 
  > 
  > this is how a stereo sample is done 
  > 
  > its the same with the emax1 you can record stereo but you can play tereo files you just have to save each wavefile as a seperate mono file
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: yojx 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups. com 
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:40 PM
  > Subject: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?
  > 
  > Hello,
  > 
  > My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10..
  > 
  > So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.
  > 
  > Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
  > 
  > Thanks
  > 
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Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by yojx

So, it will be difficult to sample a vinyl directly :(

If I read the manual (page 73), it is clear that I could sample in stereo :/


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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> yes but obvouisly you need to sample left channel as a mono sample and assign it to pri
> 
> and then sample right channel as a mono sample and assign it to sec
> 
> then hard pan the pri channel hard left and the sec channel hard right most samplers do it this way 
> 
> excert they record it stereo then split it into 2 mono wave samples via onboard software
> 
> i use awave as you can record it in stereo through your sound card then you can split it into 2 mono files
> 
> then i use cooleditpro to converte sample rate to that of the emax then i use emxp to make a bank image file with my wave files setting the pri and the sec then i load the file into the emax for editing and for making patches
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: yojx 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:50 AM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?
> 
> 
>     Ok, that's what I though. But, finally, I have to sample in mono ... twice ?
> 
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Elk Latham <elk_latham@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Further more when placing stereo samples, you have to do it twice. Once for the pri sample, once for the sec sample.
>   > 
>   > Elk
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > ________________________________
>   > From: jammie <jammie.emma@>
>   > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:36:55 AM
>   > Subject: Re: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?
>   > 
>   >   
>   > when recording in stereo it uses the pri for 1 channel and the sec for the other then they are panned left and right 
>   > 
>   > this is how a stereo sample is done 
>   > 
>   > its the same with the emax1 you can record stereo but you can play tereo files you just have to save each wavefile as a seperate mono file
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: yojx 
>   > To: emax@yahoogroups. com 
>   > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:40 PM
>   > Subject: [emax] Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?
>   > 
>   > Hello,
>   > 
>   > My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10..
>   > 
>   > So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.
>   > 
>   > Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
>   > 
>   > Thanks
>   > 
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Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by emax_dx5

It sounds strange to me. I have a 2212 keybooard (2mb) and it samples in Stereo Mode.

Go to Sample module, and check if the LCD shows "CALIBRATING ADC". It is said the emaxII can sample in stereo if you get that message.

Try to read the revision board for the main PCB for checking with other users, maybe it has got to do with it. 

Next time I open mine I will check the board rev and so.



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "yojx" <rapman@...> wrote:
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>
> Hello,
> 
> My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.
> 
> So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.
> 
> Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
> 
> Thanks
>

Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by yojx

Ok, I will check tonight. Thank you !!



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "emax_dx5" <cadena100rb@...> wrote:
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>
> It sounds strange to me. I have a 2212 keybooard (2mb) and it samples in Stereo Mode.
> 
> Go to Sample module, and check if the LCD shows "CALIBRATING ADC". It is said the emaxII can sample in stereo if you get that message.
> 
> Try to read the revision board for the main PCB for checking with other users, maybe it has got to do with it. 
> 
> Next time I open mine I will check the board rev and so.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "yojx" <rapman@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > 
> > My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.
> > 
> > So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.
> > 
> > Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> >
>

Re: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by jammie

just sample it in the comp then use exmp to dump sample to disk then you can use a editor to clean up the sample truncat volume maximise and what ever you want to do then use emxp to dump to the disk format of emax 

i use most of my samplers as sample playback machines as there is much better capture software and looping utilities on the computer than there is in the sampler 

then i use the sound synthesis of the emax or what sampler i am using to get the flavour of the synths sound onto better quality samples if you want them gritier then sample them in 8bit on the comp they still sound way clearer than sampling through the machines especialy some machines have crap adc before the pcm converters as on the korg dss1 and the mirage 
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  From: emax_dx5 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:34 AM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?


    It sounds strange to me. I have a 2212 keybooard (2mb) and it samples in Stereo Mode.

  Go to Sample module, and check if the LCD shows "CALIBRATING ADC". It is said the emaxII can sample in stereo if you get that message.

  Try to read the revision board for the main PCB for checking with other users, maybe it has got to do with it. 

  Next time I open mine I will check the board rev and so.

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "yojx" <rapman@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hello,
  > 
  > My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.
  > 
  > So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.
  > 
  > Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
  > 
  > Thanks
  >



  


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Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by yojx

Yes great idea Jammie !! I don't know why I didn't think about that loll

Thanks very much !!


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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> just sample it in the comp then use exmp to dump sample to disk then you can use a editor to clean up the sample truncat volume maximise and what ever you want to do then use emxp to dump to the disk format of emax 
> 
> i use most of my samplers as sample playback machines as there is much better capture software and looping utilities on the computer than there is in the sampler 
> 
> then i use the sound synthesis of the emax or what sampler i am using to get the flavour of the synths sound onto better quality samples if you want them gritier then sample them in 8bit on the comp they still sound way clearer than sampling through the machines especialy some machines have crap adc before the pcm converters as on the korg dss1 and the mirage 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: emax_dx5 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:34 AM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?
> 
> 
>     It sounds strange to me. I have a 2212 keybooard (2mb) and it samples in Stereo Mode.
> 
>   Go to Sample module, and check if the LCD shows "CALIBRATING ADC". It is said the emaxII can sample in stereo if you get that message.
> 
>   Try to read the revision board for the main PCB for checking with other users, maybe it has got to do with it. 
> 
>   Next time I open mine I will check the board rev and so.
> 
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "yojx" <rapman@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Hello,
>   > 
>   > My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.
>   > 
>   > So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.
>   > 
>   > Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
>   > 
>   > Thanks
>   >
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by Elk Latham

The other thing that hasn't be mention on this subject is that a stereo emax II achieves stereo sampling with an
TRS insert style cable instead of having to 1/4" inputs.




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Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:49:47 AM
Subject: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

  
Ok, I will check tonight. Thank you !!

--- In emax@yahoogroups. com, "emax_dx5" <cadena100rb@ ...> wrote:
>
> It sounds strange to me. I have a 2212 keybooard (2mb) and it samples in Stereo Mode.
> 
> Go to Sample module, and check if the LCD shows "CALIBRATING ADC". It is said the emaxII can sample in stereo if you get that message.
> 
> Try to read the revision board for the main PCB for checking with other users, maybe it has got to do with it. 
> 
> Next time I open mine I will check the board rev and so.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups. com, "yojx" <rapman@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > 
> > My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.
> > 
> > So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no Ster option.
> > 
> > Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> >
>




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Re: [emax] Re: Why does my Emax II sample in mono ?

2009-10-22 by tu@...

Check the output board, if you have a 5326 ADC then you have stereo sampling hardware. If it has a 5126 ADC then you have mono sampling. 

If you have a 5326 ADC and still cannot access stereo sampling then either the stereo sampling upgrade is not installed properly or the EEPROM 
has "forgotten" you have stereo sampling capabilities...

/Tristan

Thursday, October 22, 2009, 5:34:19 PM, you wrote:

>
  
It sounds strange to me. I have a 2212 keybooard (2mb) and it samples in Stereo Mode.

Go to Sample module, and check if the LCD shows "CALIBRATING ADC". It is said the emaxII can sample in stereo if you get that message.

Try to read the revision board for the main PCB for checking with other users, maybe it has got to do with it. 

Next time I open mine I will check the board rev and so.

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "yojx" <rapman@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> My Emax II is a 2213 2MB Rack model (I have checked it in the back of the sampler) and I use the OS version 2.10.
> 
> So, it supposes to allow sampling in stereo but it does not. For instance, when I navigate to Sample > Place Sample, the choices are Pri/Sec but no 
Ster option.
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> 
> Do you have any idea ? Do you think it is an OS issue ?
> 
> Thanks
>

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