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frequency to samples

2010-01-14 by jammie

i have just uploaded to the files section a frequency
to samples chart sheet 

this helps with setting up single cycle waveforms and multiples there off

but it wont help with samples that are unison or multi oscillator with different frequency as there will be multi single cycles playing at different speeds

what it is good for is taking single oscillator from a synth and finding single loops of 1 period cycle then you add these together in the emax to get a dual oscillator synth you can also mix the oscillators in a wave program to get different versions of 1 period single cycle waves  

but remember the single cycle wave has to be exactly the same size also you need to lower the volume of both cycles as adding them to gether multiplies the volume so lower them to -6 db then mix then then normalize them to -1 db that way you get a perfect level of sound with out digital overload 0db is the highest that a digital system can go before popping and white noise 

you can use emxp to get the samples into the emax 

if you do every thing in 16bit 44.1 khz then every thing works out easy as they are perfect numbers if you use the key of a

a4=440hz=100 samples this is the middle c or equal temp as used by the European composers

this is how the prophet vs does its sounds it uses 4 oscillators 

with four single cycle waves which go from 33 to 127

the 32 are user samples waves of 256 samples long

they are then mixed in a four way vector mixer then put through a four-pole filter resonant 

you can achieve the same sounds on a emax very easily i do a lot of emulation using the ensonig synth,s because they can have upto 8 layers making it easy to do four layer synths

but you can do it on a emax 1 or 2 or 3 you need to use 2 midi channels each with 2 layers each then use 4 single cycle waves any will do then set each layer to a chord note use any 4 chord you want 

say 1-3-5-7 now when you hit the keyboard you will get a chord then set the volumes to lfo but each one to a slightly different setting some - some plus  now when you hit a key you shold hear the cord vector between each of the voices now use the filter and vca to shape the sound add chorus and viola a prophet vs emulation what is nice is being able to set 2 different filter settings for each channel and setting the arp to 1 channel then your into vangelis teritory

but that is all virtual analogs are just single cycle waveform synths of old analogs but witha hybrid sampler you can use any waveform for your osc,s the korg dss1 does this with additive single cycle waveforms that you set from 128 harmonics then you can layer them in a dual config just like the emax

you have the same feature of a analog synth analog vca and filters 

just the osc are different treat your sampler like a analog but with a bigger pallete of osc

Re: [emax] frequency to samples

2010-01-14 by manicpeter

excellent!

also, it could help to look at more complex waveforms in a wave editor, change or loop it there, then note down the loop point, sample into the emax and then dial in that loop point...

the great advantage with the single cycle style is that it will hardly use any memory, so less than 1mb in the Emax1 can go a long way...




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From: jammie <jammie.emma@...>
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 14 January, 2010 11:57:19
Subject: [emax] frequency to samples

  
i have just uploaded to the files section a frequency
to samples chart sheet 

this helps with setting up single cycle waveforms and multiples there off

but it wont help with samples that are unison or multi oscillator with different frequency as there will be multi single cycles playing at different speeds

what it is good for is taking single oscillator from a synth and finding single loops of 1 period cycle then you add these together in the emax to get a dual oscillator synth you can also mix the oscillators in a wave program to get different versions of 1 period single cycle waves 

but remember the single cycle wave has to be exactly the same size also you need to lower the volume of both cycles as adding them to gether multiplies the volume so lower them to -6 db then mix then then normalize them to -1 db that way you get a perfect level of sound with out digital overload 0db is the highest that a digital system can go before popping and white noise 

you can use emxp to get the samples into the emax 

if you do every thing in 16bit 44.1 khz then every thing works out easy as they are perfect numbers if you use the key of a

a4=440hz=100 samples this is the middle c or equal temp as used by the European composers

this is how the prophet vs does its sounds it uses 4 oscillators 

with four single cycle waves which go from 33 to 127

the 32 are user samples waves of 256 samples long

they are then mixed in a four way vector mixer then put through a four-pole filter resonant 

you can achieve the same sounds on a emax very easily i do a lot of emulation using the ensonig synth,s because they can have upto 8 layers making it easy to do four layer synths

but you can do it on a emax 1 or 2 or 3 you need to use 2 midi channels each with 2 layers each then use 4 single cycle waves any will do then set each layer to a chord note use any 4 chord you want 

say 1-3-5-7 now when you hit the keyboard you will get a chord then set the volumes to lfo but each one to a slightly different setting some - some plus now when you hit a key you shold hear the cord vector between each of the voices now use the filter and vca to shape the sound add chorus and viola a prophet vs emulation what is nice is being able to set 2 different filter settings for each channel and setting the arp to 1 channel then your into vangelis teritory

but that is all virtual analogs are just single cycle waveform synths of old analogs but witha hybrid sampler you can use any waveform for your osc,s the korg dss1 does this with additive single cycle waveforms that you set from 128 harmonics then you can layer them in a dual config just like the emax

you have the same feature of a analog synth analog vca and filters 

just the osc are different treat your sampler like a analog but with a bigger pallete of osc








      

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Re: [emax] frequency to samples

2010-01-14 by Michael Wisbech

Looks like this here. firefox.
may be just me but a little difficult to use i belive. :)

next up  previous * Up:* Conversion Charts  * Previous:* Dynamics and 
Decibels to  Pitch and Frequency to Samples This chart shows how to convert 
pitches and frequencies into samples. Sampling Rates name Hertz 11025 22050 
44100 48000 a0 27.500 401 802 1604 1745 a#0 29.135 378 757 1514 1647 b0 
30.868 357 714 1429 1555 c0 32.703 337 674 1348 1468 c#0 34.648 318 636 
1273 1385 d0 36.708 300 601 1201 1308 d#0 38.891 283 567 1134 1234 e0 
41.203 268 535 1070 1165 f0 43.654 253 505 1010 1100 f#0 46.249 238 477 954 
1038 g0 48.999 225 450 900 980 g#0 51.913 212 425 849 925 a1 55.000 200 401 
802 873 a#1 58.270 189 378 757 824 b1 61.735 179 357 714 778 c1 65.406 169 
337 674 734 c#1 69.296 159 318 636 693 d1 73.416 150 300 601 654 d#1 77.782 
142 283 567 617 e1 82.407 134 268 535 582 f1 87.307 126 253 505 550 f#1 
92.499 119 238 477 519 g1 97.999 113 225 450 490 g#1 103.826 106 212 425 
462 a2 110.000 100 200 401 436 a#2 116.541 95 189 378 412 b2 123.471 89 179 
357 389 c2 130.813 84 169 337 367 c#2 138.591 80 159 318 346 d2 146.832 75 
150 300 327 d#2 155.564 71 142 283 309 e2 164.814 67 134 268 291 f2 174.614 
63 126 253 275 f#2 184.997 60 119 238 259 g2 195.998 56 113 225 245 g#2 
207.652 53 106 212 231 Sampling Rates name Hertz 11025 22050 44100 48000 a3 
220.000 50 100 200 218 a#3 233.082 47 95 189 206 b3 246.942 45 89 179 194 
c3 261.626 42 84 169 183 c#3 277.183 40 80 159 173 d3 293.665 38 75 150 163 
d#3 311.127 35 71 142 154 e3 329.628 33 67 134 146 f3 349.228 32 63 126 137 
f#3 369.994 30 60 119 130 g3 391.995 28 56 113 122 g#3 415.305 27 53 106 
116 a4 440.000 25 50 100 109 a#4 466.164 24 47 95 103 b4 493.883 22 45 89 
97 c4 523.251 21 42 84 92 c#4 554.365 20 40 80 87 d4 587.330 19 38 75 82 
d#4 622.254 18 35 71 77 e4 659.255 17 33 67 73 f4 698.457 16 32 63 69 f#4 
739.989 15 30 60 65 g4 783.991 14 28 56 61 g#4 830.609 13 27 53 58 a5 
880.000 13 25 50 55 a#5 932.328 12 24 47 51 b5 987.767 11 22 45 49 c5 
1046.502 11 21 42 46 c#5 1108.731 10 20 40 43 d5 1174.659 9 19 38 41 d#5 
1244.508 9 18 35 39 e5 1318.510 8 17 33 36 f5 1396.913 8 16 32 34 f#5 
1479.978 7 15 30 32 g5 1567.982 7 14 28 31 g#5 1661.219 7 13 27 29 Sampling 
Rates name Hertz 11025 22050 44100 48000 a6 1760.000 6 13 25 27 a#6 
1864.655 6 12 24 26 b6 1975.533 6 11 22 24 c6 2093.005 5 11 21 23 c#6 
2217.461 5 10 20 22 d6 2349.318 5 9 19 20 d#6 2489.016 4 9 18 19 e6 
2637.021 4 8 17 18 f6 2793.826 4 8 16 17 f#6 2959.956 4 7 15 16 g6 3135.964 
4 7 14 15 g#6 3322.438 3 7 13 14 a7 3520.000 3 6 13 14 a#7 3729.310 3 6 12 
13 b7 3951.066 3 6 11 12 c7 4186.009 3 5 11 11 c#7 4434.922 2 5 10 11 d7 
4698.637 2 5 9 10 d#7 4978.032 2 4 9 10 e7 5274.042 2 4 8 9 f7 5587.652 4 8 
9 f#7 5919.912 4 7 8 g7 6271.928 4 7 8 g#7 6644.876 3 7 7 a8 7040.000 3 6 7 
a#8 7458.620 3 6 6 b8 7902.133 3 6 6 c8 8372.019 3 5 6 c#8 8869.845 2 5 5 
d8 9397.273 2 5 5 d#8 9956.064 2 4 5 e8 10548.083 2 4 5 f8 11175.305 4 4 
f#8 11839.823 4 4 g8 12543.855 4 4 g#8 13289.752 3 4 
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next up  previous * Up:* Conversion Charts  * Previous:* Dynamics and 
Decibels to /Arun Chandra / /arunc@.../

Re: [emax] frequency to samples

2010-01-14 by jammie

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  From: Michael Wisbech 
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  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] frequency to samples


    
  Looks like this here. firefox.
  may be just me but a little difficult to use i belive. :)

  next up previous * Up:* Conversion Charts * Previous:* Dynamics and 
  Decibels to Pitch and Frequency to Samples This chart shows how to convert 
  pitches and frequencies into samples. Sampling Rates name Hertz 11025 22050 
  44100 48000 a0 27.500 401 802 1604 1745 a#0 29.135 378 757 1514 1647 b0 
  30.868 357 714 1429 1555 c0 32.703 337 674 1348 1468 c#0 34.648 318 636 
  1273 1385 d0 36.708 300 601 1201 1308 d#0 38.891 283 567 1134 1234 e0 
  41.203 268 535 1070 1165 f0 43.654 253 505 1010 1100 f#0 46.249 238 477 954 
  1038 g0 48.999 225 450 900 980 g#0 51.913 212 425 849 925 a1 55.000 200 401 
  802 873 a#1 58.270 189 378 757 824 b1 61.735 179 357 714 778 c1 65.406 169 
  337 674 734 c#1 69.296 159 318 636 693 d1 73.416 150 300 601 654 d#1 77.782 
  142 283 567 617 e1 82.407 134 268 535 582 f1 87.307 126 253 505 550 f#1 
  92.499 119 238 477 519 g1 97.999 113 225 450 490 g#1 103.826 106 212 425 
  462 a2 110.000 100 200 401 436 a#2 116.541 95 189 378 412 b2 123.471 89 179 
  357 389 c2 130.813 84 169 337 367 c#2 138.591 80 159 318 346 d2 146.832 75 
  150 300 327 d#2 155.564 71 142 283 309 e2 164.814 67 134 268 291 f2 174.614 
  63 126 253 275 f#2 184.997 60 119 238 259 g2 195.998 56 113 225 245 g#2 
  207.652 53 106 212 231 Sampling Rates name Hertz 11025 22050 44100 48000 a3 
  220.000 50 100 200 218 a#3 233.082 47 95 189 206 b3 246.942 45 89 179 194 
  c3 261.626 42 84 169 183 c#3 277.183 40 80 159 173 d3 293.665 38 75 150 163 
  d#3 311.127 35 71 142 154 e3 329.628 33 67 134 146 f3 349.228 32 63 126 137 
  f#3 369.994 30 60 119 130 g3 391.995 28 56 113 122 g#3 415.305 27 53 106 
  116 a4 440.000 25 50 100 109 a#4 466.164 24 47 95 103 b4 493.883 22 45 89 
  97 c4 523.251 21 42 84 92 c#4 554.365 20 40 80 87 d4 587.330 19 38 75 82 
  d#4 622.254 18 35 71 77 e4 659.255 17 33 67 73 f4 698.457 16 32 63 69 f#4 
  739.989 15 30 60 65 g4 783.991 14 28 56 61 g#4 830.609 13 27 53 58 a5 
  880.000 13 25 50 55 a#5 932.328 12 24 47 51 b5 987.767 11 22 45 49 c5 
  1046.502 11 21 42 46 c#5 1108.731 10 20 40 43 d5 1174.659 9 19 38 41 d#5 
  1244.508 9 18 35 39 e5 1318.510 8 17 33 36 f5 1396.913 8 16 32 34 f#5 
  1479.978 7 15 30 32 g5 1567.982 7 14 28 31 g#5 1661.219 7 13 27 29 Sampling 
  Rates name Hertz 11025 22050 44100 48000 a6 1760.000 6 13 25 27 a#6 
  1864.655 6 12 24 26 b6 1975.533 6 11 22 24 c6 2093.005 5 11 21 23 c#6 
  2217.461 5 10 20 22 d6 2349.318 5 9 19 20 d#6 2489.016 4 9 18 19 e6 
  2637.021 4 8 17 18 f6 2793.826 4 8 16 17 f#6 2959.956 4 7 15 16 g6 3135.964 
  4 7 14 15 g#6 3322.438 3 7 13 14 a7 3520.000 3 6 13 14 a#7 3729.310 3 6 12 
  13 b7 3951.066 3 6 11 12 c7 4186.009 3 5 11 11 c#7 4434.922 2 5 10 11 d7 
  4698.637 2 5 9 10 d#7 4978.032 2 4 9 10 e7 5274.042 2 4 8 9 f7 5587.652 4 8 
  9 f#7 5919.912 4 7 8 g7 6271.928 4 7 8 g#7 6644.876 3 7 7 a8 7040.000 3 6 7 
  a#8 7458.620 3 6 6 b8 7902.133 3 6 6 c8 8372.019 3 5 6 c#8 8869.845 2 5 5 
  d8 9397.273 2 5 5 d#8 9956.064 2 4 5 e8 10548.083 2 4 5 f8 11175.305 4 4 
  f#8 11839.823 4 4 g8 12543.855 4 4 g#8 13289.752 3 4 
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  next up previous * Up:* Conversion Charts * Previous:* Dynamics and 
  Decibels to /Arun Chandra / /arunc@.../ 



  


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