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EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by windrumscoggin@...

Error code 89!

'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

In using FD's marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can't see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running SE rev1.1

I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

All goes well.

I then open EMXP

Click

1) Manage Emax images

7) Manage Emax floppy disks

Enter the drive letter as 'A'

3) Manage OS on floppy disk

(Since OmniFlop just formatted the disk with the 'plus OS' and it tested out fine-tries this with an Emax formatted disk too)

EMXP Says 'enter a DSDD disk'

I do

It. Whirs and reads the disk

EMXP then Says "the disk in drive A does not contain a valid EMAX Operating System.

Press any key to continue or escape to abort these warnings...."

I hit 'enter'

EMXP says

'Error Code 206! No OS found!

Really? Why?

How?

I tried this routine with a formatted disk from OmniFlop as well as a disk I formatted in the Emax.

When I insert the Emax formatted disk and try to read the OS in EMXP I get

A windows dialog box that reads

"emxpn.exe the disk in drive A is not formatted properly please check the disk and reformat if necessary"

I then uninstalled then reinstalled The latest OmniFlop disk driver 3.0b and controller driver in both machines (via Control Panel) and ran a 'test disk' procedure in OmniFlop using the above previously formatted Emax FD's and OmniFlop formatted FD's and The OmniFlop 'test' Wizard results were successful stating

"Format recognized"

I then use same disk within EMXP to try and

Upgrade the OS to a 'Plus OS' downloaded off our yahoo user group and placed into the OS folder of EMXP in the C:/ root directory

And again get same errors.

I give up

I can't win for losing and this has taken three days off my life just to build the XP machines, install winXP, swap FDD's out and work these routines.

After all of this, I am still unable to get the EMXP program to work in WinXP 32 bit

In the end, I can't update to a PlusOs disk so that I can upgrade the OS in my Emax and then finally see External SCSI drives

Also, without EMXP working I cannot download and transfer user group sound libraries onto a zip or flash card as EMXP won't see the either!

I am thinking this could be a hardware issue somewhere and am wondering if Jammie or Ted or Esynthesist could give me their machine specs right on down to the type of FDD and motherboard used so I can build me a damned box that will work with this program. Any help in getting EMXP to work is greatly appreciated.

Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by jammie

it means that your emax is formating wrong or has mis alligned heads

i had this with another customer who brought a keyboard from me with a new slim floppy

and he had another emax with an old floppy the new floppy could not read the os or sample disks

and the old floppy in his other machine could not read the new floppy disks from the new floppy on the other machine

also are you using dsdd or hddd floppy disks

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: windrumscoggin@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:59 PM
  Subject: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

  Error code 89!

  'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

  Oh

  Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

  Hi

  I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

  It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

  In using FD's marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

  DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can't see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running  SE rev1.1

  I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

  For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

  All goes well.

  I then open EMXP 

  Click

  1) Manage Emax images

  7) Manage Emax floppy disks

  Enter the drive letter as 'A'

  3) Manage OS on floppy disk 

  (Since OmniFlop just formatted the disk with the 'plus OS' and it tested out fine-tries this with an Emax formatted disk too)

  EMXP Says 'enter a DSDD disk'

  I do

  It. Whirs and reads the disk

  EMXP then  Says "the disk in drive A does not contain a valid EMAX Operating System.

  Press any key to continue or escape to abort these warnings...."

  I hit 'enter'

  EMXP says

  'Error Code 206! No OS found!

  Really? Why?

  How?

  I tried this routine with a formatted disk from OmniFlop as well as a disk I formatted in the  Emax.

  When I insert the Emax formatted disk and try to read the OS in EMXP I get

  A windows dialog box that reads

  "emxpn.exe the disk in drive A is not formatted properly please check the disk and reformat if necessary"

  I then uninstalled then reinstalled The latest OmniFlop disk driver 3.0b and controller driver  in both machines (via Control Panel)  and ran a 'test disk' procedure in OmniFlop using the above previously formatted  Emax FD's and OmniFlop formatted FD's and The OmniFlop 'test' Wizard results were successful stating

  "Format recognized"

  I then use same disk within EMXP to try and

  Upgrade the OS to a 'Plus OS' downloaded off our yahoo user group and placed into the OS folder of EMXP in the C:/ root directory

  And again get same errors.

  I give up

  I can't win for losing and this has taken three days off my life just to build the XP machines, install winXP, swap FDD's out and work these routines.

  After all of this, I am still unable to get the  EMXP program to work in WinXP 32 bit

  In the end, I can't  update to a PlusOs disk so that I can upgrade the OS in my Emax and then finally see External SCSI drives

  Also, without EMXP working I cannot download and transfer user group sound libraries  onto a zip or flash card as EMXP won't see the either!

  I am thinking this could be a hardware issue somewhere and am wondering if Jammie or Ted or Esynthesist could give me their machine specs right on down to the type of FDD and motherboard used so I can build me a damned box that will work with this program. Any help in getting EMXP to work is greatly appreciated.

  No virus found in this message.
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  Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6773 - Release Date: 10/22/13

Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by Ted Summers

I have successfully used TEAC, Mitsumi, and SONY floppy drives to write Emax disks.
My PC mobo is an MSI with Intel Pentium 4 2.66 Ghz
But it shouldn't be the motherboard itself, honestly because I have also used a mobo with a Via CPU (the chipset maker, not even AMD!!!) and the DOS programs worked fine and wrote the Emax disks....
now whether that combo would have worked with EMXP I couldn't know....

Did you try the dos route I suggested before?
format the DSDD in Emax

using dos 6.22 exe create that 1.44MB floppy
Verify computer boots to dos

go back to windows and remove extra dos files so there is enough space (remove like deltree, attrib,etc leaving only the files I specified in that other mail).
and put the files (EMX, EMAXUTIL, PLUS OS - only the unzipped ones not the zips) there on drive A: on HD floppy disk.

now boot off the dos disk again and run EMX and using the menu choose to write the OS file to the DSDD disk.

in this way you have taken OMNIFLOP and Windows out of the picture- pure dos and the EMX and EMAXUTIL are doing raw writes to the disk.... now if THAT doesn't work it basically confirms the fdd hardware incompatibility / problem.

-Ted

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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

it means that your emax is formating wrong or has mis alligned heads

i had this with another customer who brought a keyboard from me with a new slim floppy

and he had another emax with an old floppy the new floppy could not read the os or sample disks

and the old floppy in his other machine could not read the new floppy disks from the new floppy on the other machine

also are you using dsdd or hddd floppy disks

----- Original Message -----

From: windrumscoggin@...

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:59 PM

Subject: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

Error code 89!

'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

Oh

Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

Hi

I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

In using FD's marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can't see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running SE rev1.1

I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

All goes well.

I then open EMXP

Click

1) Manage Emax images

7) Manage Emax floppy disks

Enter the drive letter as 'A'

3) Manage OS on floppy disk

(Since OmniFlop just formatted the disk with the 'plus OS' and it tested out fine-tries this with an Emax formatted disk too)

EMXP Says 'enter a DSDD disk'

I do

It. Whirs and reads the disk

EMXP then Says "the disk in drive A does not contain a valid EMAX Operating System.

Press any key to continue or escape to abort these warnings...."

I hit 'enter'

EMXP says

'Error Code 206! No OS found!

Really? Why?

How?

I tried this routine with a formatted disk from OmniFlop as well as a disk I formatted in the Emax.

When I insert the Emax formatted disk and try to read the OS in EMXP I get

A windows dialog box that reads

"emxpn.exe the disk in drive A is not formatted properly please check the disk and reformat if necessary"

I then uninstalled then reinstalled The latest OmniFlop disk driver 3.0b and controller driver in both machines (via Control Panel) and ran a 'test disk' procedure in OmniFlop using the above previously formatted Emax FD's and OmniFlop formatted FD's and The OmniFlop 'test' Wizard results were successful stating

"Format recognized"

I then use same disk within EMXP to try and

Upgrade the OS to a 'Plus OS' downloaded off our yahoo user group and placed into the OS folder of EMXP in the C:/ root directory

And again get same errors.

I give up

I can't win for losing and this has taken three days off my life just to build the XP machines, install winXP, swap FDD's out and work these routines.

After all of this, I am still unable to get the EMXP program to work in WinXP 32 bit

In the end, I can't update to a PlusOs disk so that I can upgrade the OS in my Emax and then finally see External SCSI drives

Also, without EMXP working I cannot download and transfer user group sound libraries onto a zip or flash card as EMXP won't see the either!

I am thinking this could be a hardware issue somewhere and am wondering if Jammie or Ted or Esynthesist could give me their machine specs right on down to the type of FDD and motherboard used so I can build me a damned box that will work with this program. Any help in getting EMXP to work is greatly appreciated.

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by Windrum Scoggin

Tried HDDD disks and formatted them in my Emax fine. The DSDD disks are a little more rare. Found one here at work and used another XP machine here with OmniFlop and EMXP installed on it and formatted the disk and installed Is Plus using OmniFlop and according to OmniFlop it 'took' just fine.

I Ran a test of the disk Using EMXP on same computer and it gives me

Error 89! Not an Emax disk!

Same error, different machine but the issue is the same no matter what disk I use, or what PC I format the disks (using OmniFlop on)

EMXP just gives the same error 89!

And NOT just with floppies

While the Emax can read its own formatted disks and OmniFlop say disk format and is install fine (with DSDD disks only)

EMXP cannot write to ANY disk I give it

IE: I use a CF card attached to the computer

EMXP won't see it as a EMAX usable disc and won't format it.

Same goes with an internal IDE ZIP disk-EMXP Won't see it as usable and won't work with it.

Mind you these are fresh disks, never formatted by my Emax of course)

Any other suggestions please?

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On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, jammie wrote:

it means that your emax is formating wrong or has mis alligned heads

i had this with another customer who brought a keyboard from me with a new slim floppy

and he had another emax with an old floppy the new floppy could not read the os or sample disks

and the old floppy in his other machine could not read the new floppy disks from the new floppy on the other machine

also are you using dsdd or hddd floppy disks

----- Original Message -----

From: windrumscoggin@...

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:59 PM

Subject: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

Error code 89!

'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

Oh

Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

Hi

I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

In using FD's marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can9;t see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running SE rev1.1

I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

All goes well.

I then open EMXP

Click

1) Manage Emax images

7) Manage Emax floppy disks

Enter the drive letter as 'A'

3) Manage OS on floppy disk

(Since OmniFlop just formatted the disk with the 'plus OS' and it tested out fine-tries this with an Emax formatted disk too)

EMXP Says 'enter a DSDD disk'

I do

It. Whirs and reads the disk

EMXP then Says "the disk in drive A does not contain a valid EMAX Operating System.

Press any key to continue or escape to abort these warnings...."

I hit 'enter'

EMXP says

'Error Code 206! No OS found!

Rea
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6773 - Release Date: 10/22/13

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Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by Windrum Scoggin

Ted

Gonna do DOS routine today and probably will be successful.

Still

That doesn't fix my overall issue with EMXP though- because if I can't get EMXP to work on my ASUS p5e motherboard/teac FDD combo then I won't be able to make ZIP disks or CF/SM cards. It's these Emax formatted cards that I want to use EMXP to put the user group sound libraries onto and the. load into my Emax.

The overall objective here is to make some disks with sounds that I can load into my Emax and write songs with!

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On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, Ted Summers wrote:

I have successfully used TEAC, Mitsumi, and SONY floppy drives to write Emax disks.
My PC mobo is an MSI with Intel Pentium 4 2.66 Ghz
But it shouldn't be the motherboard itself, honestly because I have also used a mobo with a Via CPU (the chipset maker, not even AMD!!!) and the DOS programs worked fine and wrote the Emax disks....
now whether that combo would have worked with EMXP I couldn't know....

Did you try the dos route I suggested before?
format the DSDD in Emax

using dos 6.22 exe create that 1.44MB floppy
Verify computer boots to dos

go back to windows and remove extra dos files so there is enough space (remove like deltree, attrib,etc leaving only the files I specified in that other mail).
and put the files (EMX, EMAXUTIL, PLUS OS - only the unzipped ones not the zips) there on drive A: on HD floppy disk.

now boot off the dos disk again and run EMX and using the menu choose to write the OS file to the DSDD disk.

in this way you have taken OMNIFLOP and Windows out of the picture- pure dos and the EMX and EMAXUTIL are doing raw writes to the disk.... now if THAT doesn't work it basically confirms the fdd hardware incompatibility / problem.

-Ted

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

it means that your emax is formating wrong or has mis alligned heads

i had this with another customer who brought a keyboard from me with a new slim floppy

and he had another emax with an old floppy the new floppy could not read the os or sample disks

and the old floppy in his other machine could not read the new floppy disks from the new floppy on the other machine

also are you using dsdd or hddd floppy disks

----- Original Message -----

From: windrumscoggin@...

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:59 PM

Subject: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

Error code 89!

'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

Oh

Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

Hi

I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

In using FD's marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can9;t see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running SE rev1.1

I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

All goes well.

I then open EMXP

Click

1) Manage Emax images

7) Manage Emax floppy disks

Enter the drive letter as 'A'

3) Manage OS on floppy disk

(Since OmniFlop just

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Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by Ted Summers

Not in regards to EMXP, I have no other suggestions.... you should be contacting the developer with your concerns.

again- my suggestion for DOS usage is to take that all out of the equation and confirm the hardware works at that low level (dos).

-Ted

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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Windrum Scoggin <windrumscoggin@...> wrote:

Tried HDDD disks and formatted them in my Emax fine. The DSDD disks are a little more rare. Found one here at work and used another XP machine here with OmniFlop and EMXP installed on it and formatted the disk and installed Is Plus using OmniFlop and according to OmniFlop it 'took' just fine.

I Ran a test of the disk Using EMXP on same computer and it gives me
Error 89! Not an Emax disk!
Same error, different machine but the issue is the same no matter what disk I use, or what PC I format the disks (using OmniFlop on)
EMXP just gives the same error 89!
And NOT just with floppies

While the Emax can read its own formatted disks and OmniFlop say disk format and is install fine (with DSDD disks only)

EMXP cannot write to ANY disk I give it
IE: I use a CF card attached to the computer
EMXP won't see it as a EMAX usable disc and won't format it.
Same goes with an internal IDE ZIP disk-EMXP Won't see it as usable and won't work with it.

Mind you these are fresh disks, never formatted by my Emax of course)
Any other suggestions please?

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, jammie wrote:

it means that your emax is formating wrong or has mis alligned heads

i had this with another customer who brought a keyboard from me with a new slim floppy

and he had another emax with an old floppy the new floppy could not read the os or sample disks

and the old floppy in his other machine could not read the new floppy disks from the new floppy on the other machine

also are you using dsdd or hddd floppy disks

----- Original Message -----

From: windrumscoggin@...

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:59 PM

Subject: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

Error code 89!

'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

Oh

Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

Hi

I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

In using FD's marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can't see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running SE rev1.1

I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

All goes well.

I then open EMXP

Click

1) Manage Emax images

7) Manage Emax floppy disks

Enter the drive letter as 'A'

3) Manage OS on floppy disk

(Since OmniFlop just formatted the disk with the 'plus OS' and it tested out fine-tries this with an Emax formatted disk too)

EMXP Says 'enter a DSDD disk'

I do

It. Whirs and reads the disk

EMXP then Says "the disk in drive A does not contain a valid EMAX Operating System.

Press any key to continue or escape to abort these warnings...."

I hit 'enter'

EMXP says

'Error Code 206! No OS found!

Rea
No virus found in this message.

Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6773 - Release Date: 10/22/13

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Le Sociere Des Oscillateurs Mystere

Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by Windrum Scoggin

K I got a functional windows 95 machine here at work.

Yeah, no kidding it boots to Win95

Can I run DOS from win95 it (or just start at the C prompt( and try this using EMX instead of tEMXP then burn the files within EMX?

Show quoted textHide quoted text

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, Ted Summers wrote:

I have successfully used TEAC, Mitsumi, and SONY floppy drives to write Emax disks.
My PC mobo is an MSI with Intel Pentium 4 2.66 Ghz
But it shouldn't be the motherboard itself, honestly because I have also used a mobo with a Via CPU (the chipset maker, not even AMD!!!) and the DOS programs worked fine and wrote the Emax disks....
now whether that combo would have worked with EMXP I couldn't know....

Did you try the dos route I suggested before?
format the DSDD in Emax

using dos 6.22 exe create that 1.44MB floppy
Verify computer boots to dos

go back to windows and remove extra dos files so there is enough space (remove like deltree, attrib,etc leaving only the files I specified in that other mail).
and put the files (EMX, EMAXUTIL, PLUS OS - only the unzipped ones not the zips) there on drive A: on HD floppy disk.

now boot off the dos disk again and run EMX and using the menu choose to write the OS file to the DSDD disk.

in this way you have taken OMNIFLOP and Windows out of the picture- pure dos and the EMX and EMAXUTIL are doing raw writes to the disk.... now if THAT doesn't work it basically confirms the fdd hardware incompatibility / problem.

-Ted

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

it means that your emax is formating wrong or has mis alligned heads

i had this with another customer who brought a keyboard from me with a new slim floppy

and he had another emax with an old floppy the new floppy could not read the os or sample disks

and the old floppy in his other machine could not read the new floppy disks from the new floppy on the other machine

also are you using dsdd or hddd floppy disks

----- Original Message -----

From: windrumscoggin@...

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:59 PM

Subject: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

Error code 89!

'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

Oh

Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

Hi

I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

In using FD's marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can't see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running SE rev1.1

I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

All goes well.

I then open EMXP

Click

1) Manage Emax images

7) Manage Emax floppy disks

Enter the drive letter as 'A'

3) Manage OS on floppy disk

(Since OmniFlop just

--
Le Sociere Des Oscillateurs Mystere

Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by Ted Summers

I haven't tested win95's dos version with EMX or EMAXUTIL.....

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Windrum Scoggin <windrumscoggin@...> wrote:

K I got a functional windows 95 machine here at work.
Yeah, no kidding it boots to Win95

Can I run DOS from win95 it (or just start at the C prompt( and try this using EMX instead of tEMXP then burn the files within EMX?

Show quoted textHide quoted text

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, Ted Summers wrote:

I have successfully used TEAC, Mitsumi, and SONY floppy drives to write Emax disks.
My PC mobo is an MSI with Intel Pentium 4 2.66 Ghz
But it shouldn't be the motherboard itself, honestly because I have also used a mobo with a Via CPU (the chipset maker, not even AMD!!!) and the DOS programs worked fine and wrote the Emax disks....
now whether that combo would have worked with EMXP I couldn't know....

Did you try the dos route I suggested before?
format the DSDD in Emax

using dos 6.22 exe create that 1.44MB floppy
Verify computer boots to dos

go back to windows and remove extra dos files so there is enough space (remove like deltree, attrib,etc leaving only the files I specified in that other mail).
and put the files (EMX, EMAXUTIL, PLUS OS - only the unzipped ones not the zips) there on drive A: on HD floppy disk.

now boot off the dos disk again and run EMX and using the menu choose to write the OS file to the DSDD disk.

in this way you have taken OMNIFLOP and Windows out of the picture- pure dos and the EMX and EMAXUTIL are doing raw writes to the disk.... now if THAT doesn't work it basically confirms the fdd hardware incompatibility / problem.

-Ted

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

it means that your emax is formating wrong or has mis alligned heads

i had this with another customer who brought a keyboard from me with a new slim floppy

and he had another emax with an old floppy the new floppy could not read the os or sample disks

and the old floppy in his other machine could not read the new floppy disks from the new floppy on the other machine

also are you using dsdd or hddd floppy disks

----- Original Message -----

From: windrumscoggin@...

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:59 PM

Subject: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

Error code 89!

'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

Oh

Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

Hi

I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

In using FD9;s marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can't see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running SE rev1.1

I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

All goes well.

I then open EMXP

Click

1) Manage Emax images

7) Manage Emax floppy disks

Enter the drive letter as 'A'

3) Manage OS on floppy disk

(Since OmniFlop just

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Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by Michael Laursen

don't know if it is any help. but regarding dos and newer windows versions.

There is some small utilities that runs dos
search for dosbox and dosshell

www.dosbox.com
and
dosshell at
http://www.loonies.narod.ru/

Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

2013-10-23 by jammie

you cant format a cf card in the emxp only floppy disks

i dont know what your problem is but i have never had any problems with emxp

are you formating the disk in emxp and are you correctly adding the omniflop drivers what os are you using

i di a video on how to install omni flop drivers properly as it sound like you have not done it correctly i had some one trying to make ensoniq \eps16+ images and i did the images in 820k ensoniq format and he could not get it to work because he installed omniflop wrong

when you go to floppy formats do you have the full list in omni flop if you only have a small list then you have not installed correctly

----- Original Message -----

From: Windrum Scoggin

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:11 PM

Subject: Re: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

Tried HDDD disks and formatted them in my Emax fine. The DSDD disks are a little more rare. Found one here at work and used another XP machine here with OmniFlop and EMXP installed on it and formatted the disk and installed Is Plus using OmniFlop and according to OmniFlop it 'took' just fine.

I Ran a test of the disk Using EMXP on same computer and it gives me

Error 89! Not an Emax disk!

Same error, different machine but the issue is the same no matter what disk I use, or what PC I format the disks (using OmniFlop on)
EMXP just gives the same error 89!
And NOT just with floppies

While the Emax can read its own formatted disks and OmniFlop say disk format and is install fine (with DSDD disks only)

EMXP cannot write to ANY disk I give it

IE: I use a CF card attached to the computer
EMXP won't see it as a EMAX usable disc and won't format it.
Same goes with an internal IDE ZIP disk-EMXP Won't see it as usable and won't work with it.

Mind you these are fresh disks, never formatted by my Emax of course)

Any other suggestions please?

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On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, jammie wrote:

it means that your emax is formating wrong or has mis alligned heads

i had this with another customer who brought a keyboard from me with a new slim floppy

and he had another emax with an old floppy the new floppy could not read the os or sample disks

and the old floppy in his other machine could not read the new floppy disks from the new floppy on the other machine

also are you using dsdd or hddd floppy disks

----- Original Message -----

From: windrumscoggin@...

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:59 PM

Subject: [emax] EMXP just NOT working

Error code 89!

'The capacity of the disk in drive A is not supported by Emax samplers!

Oh

Really!?, I just formatted the disk on my Emax!

Hi

I am not sure my problem is with the FD disks I am using or with WinXP or simply a bad FDD issue (really, tried four different floppy disk drives) or an EMXP motherboard incompatibility but

It just ain't working..not with Floppy disks, my internal ZIP disk, or Flash cards either.

In using FD's marked HD on the upper right of the disk I get all kinds of errors.

DSDD disks just don't work either. EMXP can't see em, even if they were previously formatted in my Emax I HD running SE rev1.1

I also installed and tried 4 different floppies drives on two different winXP machines and keep getting errors in EMXP even though the Emax HD I own formats them just fine as does OmniFlop (with Omniflop drivers installed, of course).

For example I will format the floppy disk in OmniFlop and install an OS from the usergroup on the disk.

All goes well.

I then open EMXP

Click

1) Manage Emax images

7) Manage Emax floppy disks

Enter the drive letter as 'A'

3) Manage OS on floppy disk

(Since OmniFlop just formatted the disk with the 'plus OS' and it tested out fine-tries this with an Emax formatted disk too)

EMXP Says 'enter a DSDD disk'

I do

It. Whirs and reads the disk

EMXP then Says "the disk in drive A does not contain a valid EMAX Operating System.

Press any key to continue or escape to abort these warnings...."

I hit 'enter'

EMXP says

'Error Code 206! No OS found!

Rea

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