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EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by windrumscoggin@...

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

RE: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by Lorne Hammond

doesn't it have to be a scsi  zip drive?  Lorne
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Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
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Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

 

  

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

 

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

 

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

 

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

 

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

 

When I  test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine.  This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I  (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway)  for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

 

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

 

Your patience and great kindness 

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

 





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Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by jammie

it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp

so its an issue with some drivers

my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp

when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please

this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly

ill do a video showing how many formats there should be
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: windrumscoggin@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:25 PM
  Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?


    

  Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO



  Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO



  Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

  Error 89! etc etc...



  EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

  system:

  ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.



  When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..



  When I  test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine.  This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I  (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway)  for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.



  So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I



  Your patience and great kindness 

  (ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

  EMU users are the best

  Greg

  Greg Scoggin




  
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Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by Windrum Scoggin

Thats a good question.. but the answer is NO
Page 6 of the EMXP 2.11 pdf manual states the test conditions in which Esynthesist got EMXP to run
Go down to the ZIP drives used during the 'test configurations' used and he states
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
-Iomega 100 M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive USB (connected to PC)
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive PARALLEL (connected to PC)
HE GOES on further to state that the ZIP disks DO NOT have to be preformatted using the EMAX I before they can be used by EMXP
See "Creating Removeable Hard Disks/Zip Disks/Memory Cards of same manual, Page
71
for further clarification on this.

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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Lorne Hammond <lhammond@...> wrote:

doesn't it have to be a scsi zip drive? Lorne

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Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?



Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by windrumscoggin@...

Yes, Jammie I can do that ...give me a few...
I know that step by step, OmniFlop shows me
258 different options my drive is compatible with
when I do the 'test routine' ...
I am a little fuzzy on the exact things it tells me but tell ya what,
I will do a series of screen shots and upload them in a few minutes here
so you can see what I am talking about.....
I will put the screen shots in the 'files' section of our server in a zip file
called 'Omniflop screen shots Greg'
to show you what I get on my system.
Thanks
P.S-Not to repeat myself but when I format a floppy using the EMAX I, and test it using EMX on a Windows95 computer, all is good, EMX reads it fine and can copy the OS off of it and all 40 some odd sectors test fine on the disk.
When I take same Emax I formatted floppy and put it into my PC running XP/XP64 or Vista32 and EMXP, EMXP says it is a NOT a format the Emax I uses and cannot read the disk....Error 89!
---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp
so its an issue with some drivers
my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp
when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please
this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly
ill do a video showing how many formats there should be
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

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Re: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by jammie

yes i see you can confirm that the emx via dos works and reads the disk

this leads me to the floppy drive in the pc that is the problem as said before

when i was refering to the mis aligned heads i was talking about the floppy drive in your pc not the emax drive

as it seems to be the same problem what ever os you use
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: windrumscoggin@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:32 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?


    



  Yes, Jammie I can do that ...give me a few...
  I know that step by step, OmniFlop shows me
  258 different options my drive is compatible with
  when I do the 'test routine' ...
  I am a little fuzzy on the exact things it tells me but tell ya what,
  I will do a series of screen shots and upload them in a few minutes here
  so you can see what I am talking about.....
  I will put the screen shots in the 'files' section of our server in a zip file
  called 'Omniflop screen shots Greg'
  to show you what I get on my system.
  Thanks

  P.S-Not to repeat myself but when I format a floppy using the EMAX I, and test it using EMX on a Windows95 computer, all is good, EMX reads it fine and can copy the OS off of it and all 40 some odd sectors test fine on the disk. 
  When I take same Emax I formatted floppy and put it into my PC running XP/XP64 or Vista32 and EMXP, EMXP says it is a NOT a format the Emax I uses and cannot read the disk....Error 89!

  ---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


   
  it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp

  so its an issue with some drivers

  my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp

  when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please

  this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly

  ill do a video showing how many formats there should be 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: windrumscoggin@... 
      To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:25 PM
      Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?


        
      Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO



      Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO



      Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

      Error 89! etc etc...



      EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

      system:

      ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.



      When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..



      When I  test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine.  This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I  (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway)  for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.



      So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I



      Your patience and great kindness 

      (ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

      EMU users are the best

      Greg

      Greg Scoggin



      No virus found in this message.
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Re: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by Windrum Scoggin

Right, the only thing that bothers me is the FDD
in the PC running XP and Omniflop driver will indeed, format and read DOS floppies just fine.
its when I got to use EMXP it has problems.
I think I actually got OmniFlop to format a disk with the Plus OS but when I went to put that disk into the Emax the Emax couldn't recognize it.
Another thing that further confuses the issue is that I wrote the Plus OS within EMX on Win95 just fine yesterday here at work, it checked out in EMX as fine then when I took it home and put it in the EMAX the Emax wouldn't recognize the disk as an Emax Formatted diskette...
confusing really.....

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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

yes i see you can confirm that the emx via dos works and reads the disk
this leads me to the floppy drive in the pc that is the problem as said before
when i was refering to the mis aligned heads i was talking about the floppy drive in your pc not the emax drive
as it seems to be the same problem what ever os you use
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Yes, Jammie I can do that ...give me a few...
I know that step by step, OmniFlop shows me
258 different options my drive is compatible with
when I do the 'test routine' ...
I am a little fuzzy on the exact things it tells me but tell ya what,
I will do a series of screen shots and upload them in a few minutes here
so you can see what I am talking about.....
I will put the screen shots in the 'files' section of our server in a zip file
called 'Omniflop screen shots Greg'
to show you what I get on my system.
Thanks
P.S-Not to repeat myself but when I format a floppy using the EMAX I, and test it using EMX on a Windows95 computer, all is good, EMX reads it fine and can copy the OS off of it and all 40 some odd sectors test fine on the disk.
When I take same Emax I formatted floppy and put it into my PC running XP/XP64 or Vista32 and EMXP, EMXP says it is a NOT a format the Emax I uses and cannot read the disk....Error 89!
it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp
so its an issue with some drivers
my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp
when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please
this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly
ill do a video showing how many formats there should be
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn';t a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

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Re: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by jammie

this is very strange as your the first real person who has had problems with emxp on this scale
so this is all new to all of us
as you said you have the full omniflop settings in the format options so you have the omniflop drivers installed correctly other wise you only have a few
as you also said you have problems creating zip disk in emxp via an ide drive
are you giving the correct drive letter
it cant format fat 32 cf cards i have always had to do it in the emax
can you create a iso image with your emxp so that i can create a cf card my end from your image file .ez1 so i can test it to see if it works correctly
what version of emxp are you using
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Subject: Re: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right, the only thing that bothers me is the FDD
in the PC running XP and Omniflop driver will indeed, format and read DOS floppies just fine.
its when I got to use EMXP it has problems.
I think I actually got OmniFlop to format a disk with the Plus OS but when I went to put that disk into the Emax the Emax couldn't recognize it.
Another thing that further confuses the issue is that I wrote the Plus OS within EMX on Win95 just fine yesterday here at work, it checked out in EMX as fine then when I took it home and put it in the EMAX the Emax wouldn't recognize the disk as an Emax Formatted diskette...
confusing really.....

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

yes i see you can confirm that the emx via dos works and reads the disk
this leads me to the floppy drive in the pc that is the problem as said before
when i was refering to the mis aligned heads i was talking about the floppy drive in your pc not the emax drive
as it seems to be the same problem what ever os you use
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Yes, Jammie I can do that ...give me a few...
I know that step by step, OmniFlop shows me
258 different options my drive is compatible with
when I do the 'test routine' ...
I am a little fuzzy on the exact things it tells me but tell ya what,
I will do a series of screen shots and upload them in a few minutes here
so you can see what I am talking about.....
I will put the screen shots in the 'files' section of our server in a zip file
called 'Omniflop screen shots Greg'
to show you what I get on my system.
Thanks
P.S-Not to repeat myself but when I format a floppy using the EMAX I, and test it using EMX on a Windows95 computer, all is good, EMX reads it fine and can copy the OS off of it and all 40 some odd sectors test fine on the disk.
When I take same Emax I formatted floppy and put it into my PC running XP/XP64 or Vista32 and EMXP, EMXP says it is a NOT a format the Emax I uses and cannot read the disk....Error 89!
it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp
so its an issue with some drivers
my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp
when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please
this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly
ill do a video showing how many formats there should be
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. ; This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

;

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

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Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by Windrum Scoggin

Yep
Using EMXP latest version and tried on
Three different operating systems on two different XP machines and still a no go
Using 3.0b OmniFlop driver for FDD
and no install of the FDD OmniFdd driver
(Not necessary per OmniFlop user guide for Emax)
Go figure....
Will zip up all I'm using
And compile into an ISO image and send to your email address via drop box later today along with screen shots of the install process
Thx
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On Thursday, October 24, 2013, jammie wrote:

this is very strange as your the first real person who has had problems with emxp on this scale
so this is all new to all of us
as you said you have the full omniflop settings in the format options so you have the omniflop drivers installed correctly other wise you only have a few
as you also said you have problems creating zip disk in emxp via an ide drive
are you giving the correct drive letter
it cant format fat 32 cf cards i have always had to do it in the emax
can you create a iso image with your emxp so that i can create a cf card my end from your image file .ez1 so i can test it to see if it works correctly
what version of emxp are you using
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right, the only thing that bothers me is the FDD
in the PC running XP and Omniflop driver will indeed, format and read DOS floppies just fine.
its when I got to use EMXP it has problems.
I think I actually got OmniFlop to format a disk with the Plus OS but when I went to put that disk into the Emax the Emax couldn't recognize it.
Another thing that further confuses the issue is that I wrote the Plus OS within EMX on Win95 just fine yesterday here at work, it checked out in EMX as fine then when I took it home and put it in the EMAX the Emax wouldn't recognize the disk as an Emax Formatted diskette...
confusing really.....

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

yes i see you can confirm that the emx via dos works and reads the disk
this leads me to the floppy drive in the pc that is the problem as said before
when i was refering to the mis aligned heads i was talking about the floppy drive in your pc not the emax drive
as it seems to be the same problem what ever os you use
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Yes, Jammie I can do that ...give me a few...
I know that step by step, OmniFlop shows me
258 different options my drive is compatible with
when I do the 'test routine' ...
I am a little fuzzy on the exact things it tells me but tell ya what,
I will do a series of screen shots and upload them in a few minutes here
so you can see what I am talking about.....
I will put the screen shots in the 'files' section of our server in a zip file
called 'Omniflop screen shots Greg'
to show you what I get on my system.
Thanks
P.S-Not to repeat myself but when I format a floppy using the EMAX I, and test it using EMX on a Windows95 computer, all is good, EMX reads it fine and can copy the OS off of it and all 40 some odd sectors test fine on the disk.
When I take same Emax I formatted floppy and put it into my PC running XP/XP64 or Vista32 and EMXP, EMXP says it is a NOT a format the Emax I uses and cannot read the disk....Error 89!
it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp
so its an issue with some drivers
my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp
when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please
this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly

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Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by jammie

i use the version before of emxp as i upgraded but had a few problems with it so i reverted to the known working version
ill contact esynthesis about it
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Yep

Using EMXP latest version and tried on
Three different operating systems on two different XP machines and still a no go
Using 3.0b OmniFlop driver for FDD
and no install of the FDD OmniFdd driver
(Not necessary per OmniFlop user guide for Emax)
Go figure....
Will zip up all I'm using
And compile into an ISO image and send to your email address via drop box later today along with screen shots of the install process
Thx

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On Thursday, October 24, 2013, jammie wrote:

this is very strange as your the first real person who has had problems with emxp on this scale
so this is all new to all of us
as you said you have the full omniflop settings in the format options so you have the omniflop drivers installed correctly other wise you only have a few
as you also said you have problems creating zip disk in emxp via an ide drive
are you giving the correct drive letter
it cant format fat 32 cf cards i have always had to do it in the emax
can you create a iso image with your emxp so that i can create a cf card my end from your image file .ez1 so i can test it to see if it works correctly
what version of emxp are you using
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right, the only thing that bothers me is the FDD
in the PC running XP and Omniflop driver will indeed, format and read DOS floppies just fine.
its when I got to use EMXP it has problems.
I think I actually got OmniFlop to format a disk with the Plus OS but when I went to put that disk into the Emax the Emax couldn't recognize it.
Another thing that further confuses the issue is that I wrote the Plus OS within EMX on Win95 just fine yesterday here at work, it checked out in EMX as fine then when I took it home and put it in the EMAX the Emax wouldn't recognize the disk as an Emax Formatted diskette...
confusing really.....

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@....uk> wrote:

yes i see you can confirm that the emx via dos works and reads the disk
this leads me to the floppy drive in the pc that is the problem as said before
when i was refering to the mis aligned heads i was talking about the floppy drive in your pc not the emax drive
as it seems to be the same problem what ever os you use
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Yes, Jammie I can do that ...give me a few...
I know that step by step, OmniFlop shows me
258 different options my drive is compatible with
when I do the 'test routine' ...
I am a little fuzzy on the exact things it tells me but tell ya what,
I will do a series of screen shots and upload them in a few minutes here
so you can see what I am talking about.....
I will put the screen shots in the 'files' section of our server in a zip file
called 'Omniflop screen shots Greg'
to show you what I get on my system.
Thanks
P.S-Not to repeat myself but when I format a floppy using the EMAX I, and test it using EMX on a Windows95 computer, all is good, EMX reads it fine and can copy the OS off of it and all 40 some odd sectors test fine on the disk.
When I take same Emax I formatted floppy and put it into my PC running XP/XP64 or Vista32 and EMXP, EMXP says it is a NOT a format the Emax I uses and cannot read the disk....Error 89!
it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp
so its an issue with some drivers
my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp
when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please
this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly

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RE: Re: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by esynthesist@...

(...)I think I actually got OmniFlop to format a disk with the Plus OS but when I went to put that disk into the Emax the Emax couldn't recognize it.(...)

What do you exactly mean ? OmniFlop itself can't format Emax disks in a way that it immediately installs an OS on that disk. (unless I missed something with the newest versions of OmniFlop...)

The only way to write an OS to an Emax disk with OmniFlop itself is by "writing" a full 800K Emax floppy disk image (including the OS) to that disk. I assume you don't have this 800K image (most Emax OS downloads are EMX files, not disk images).





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Right, the only thing that bothers me is the FDD
in the PC running XP and Omniflop driver will indeed, format and read DOS floppies just fine.
its when I got to use EMXP it has problems.
I think I actually got OmniFlop to format a disk with the Plus OS but when I went to put that disk into the Emax the Emax couldn't recognize it.
Another thing that further confuses the issue is that I wrote the Plus OS within EMX on Win95 just fine yesterday here at work, it checked out in EMX as fine then when I took it home and put it in the EMAX the Emax wouldn't recognize the disk as an Emax Formatted diskette...
confusing really.....

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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

yes i see you can confirm that the emx via dos works and reads the disk
this leads me to the floppy drive in the pc that is the problem as said before
when i was refering to the mis aligned heads i was talking about the floppy drive in your pc not the emax drive
as it seems to be the same problem what ever os you use
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Yes, Jammie I can do that ...give me a few...
I know that step by step, OmniFlop shows me
258 different options my drive is compatible with
when I do the 'test routine' ...
I am a little fuzzy on the exact things it tells me but tell ya what,
I will do a series of screen shots and upload them in a few minutes here
so you can see what I am talking about.....
I will put the screen shots in the 'files' section of our server in a zip file
called 'Omniflop screen shots Greg'
to show you what I get on my system.
Thanks
P.S-Not to repeat myself but when I format a floppy using the EMAX I, and test it using EMX on a Windows95 computer, all is good, EMX reads it fine and can copy the OS off of it and all 40 some odd sectors test fine on the disk.
When I take same Emax I formatted floppy and put it into my PC running XP/XP64 or Vista32 and EMXP, EMXP says it is a NOT a format the Emax I uses and cannot read the disk....Error 89!
it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp
so its an issue with some drivers
my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp
when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please
this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly
ill do a video showing how many formats there should be
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

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RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by esynthesist@...

Correct, zip disks/flash disks for Emax-I must not be *physically* formatted specifically for Emax when using them in EMXP. DOS formatted disks are OK.
BUT these disks can only be used for reading/writing banks and OS files after you have done a "logical" formatting of them, which means writing the filesystem to them. This can be done by generating an empty HD/CD image in EMXP and "restoring" it to that disk. Once that's done, you should be able to save banks and OS files to it.
As jammie already explained
And as explained in the EMXP manual.

Unless your problem is rather that EMXP won't recognize the DRIVE (as opposed to the DISK in that drive). I.e. the drive letter is not accepted by EMXP.
Please clarify the problem (error code...)

Regarding your floppy disk problems: I have sent you an email today (I wasn't online the past few days due to my job)

///E-Synthesist



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thats a good question.. but the answer is NO
Page 6 of the EMXP 2.11 pdf manual states the test conditions in which Esynthesist got EMXP to run
Go down to the ZIP drives used during the 'test configurations' used and he states
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
-Iomega 100 M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive USB (connected to PC)
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive PARALLEL (connected to PC)
HE GOES on further to state that the ZIP disks DO NOT have to be preformatted using the EMAX I before they can be used by EMXP
See "Creating Removeable Hard Disks/Zip Disks/Memory Cards of same manual, Page
71
for further clarification on this.

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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Lorne Hammond <lhammond@...> wrote:

doesn't it have to be a scsi zip drive? Lorne

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of windrumscoggin@...
Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?



Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

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RE: RE: Re: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by windrumscoggin@...



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

(...)I think I actually got OmniFlop to format a disk with the Plus OS but when I went to put that disk into the Emax the Emax couldn't recognize it.(...)

What do you exactly mean ? OmniFlop itself can't format Emax disks in a way that it immediately installs an OS on that disk. (unless I missed something with the newest versions of OmniFlop...)

The only way to write an OS to an Emax disk with OmniFlop itself is by "writing" a full 800K Emax floppy disk image (including the OS) to that disk. I assume you don't have this 800K image (most Emax OS downloads are EMX files, not disk images).





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Right, the only thing that bothers me is the FDD
in the PC running XP and Omniflop driver will indeed, format and read DOS floppies just fine.
its when I got to use EMXP it has problems.
I think I actually got OmniFlop to format a disk with the Plus OS but when I went to put that disk into the Emax the Emax couldn't recognize it.
Another thing that further confuses the issue is that I wrote the Plus OS within EMX on Win95 just fine yesterday here at work, it checked out in EMX as fine then when I took it home and put it in the EMAX the Emax wouldn't recognize the disk as an Emax Formatted diskette...
confusing really.....

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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

yes i see you can confirm that the emx via dos works and reads the disk
this leads me to the floppy drive in the pc that is the problem as said before
when i was refering to the mis aligned heads i was talking about the floppy drive in your pc not the emax drive
as it seems to be the same problem what ever os you use
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Yes, Jammie I can do that ...give me a few...
I know that step by step, OmniFlop shows me
258 different options my drive is compatible with
when I do the 'test routine' ...
I am a little fuzzy on the exact things it tells me but tell ya what,
I will do a series of screen shots and upload them in a few minutes here
so you can see what I am talking about.....
I will put the screen shots in the 'files' section of our server in a zip file
called 'Omniflop screen shots Greg'
to show you what I get on my system.
Thanks
P.S-Not to repeat myself but when I format a floppy using the EMAX I, and test it using EMX on a Windows95 computer, all is good, EMX reads it fine and can copy the OS off of it and all 40 some odd sectors test fine on the disk.
When I take same Emax I formatted floppy and put it into my PC running XP/XP64 or Vista32 and EMXP, EMXP says it is a NOT a format the Emax I uses and cannot read the disk....Error 89!
it wont see a fat32 cf card and cant format it its not available in the formating in emxp
so its an issue with some drivers
my first question when you use omniflop direct to format a floppy disk not using emxp
when you choose a format can you show me the list you have please
this will let us know that the driver has been installed correctly
ill do a video showing how many formats there should be
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

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RE: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by windrumscoggin@...

Ah...generate an empty disk image first, then what, drag and drop that image onto the zip disk or use what menu commands....

I am a little perterbured....it just confused the hell out of me...as if I wasn't already confuse enough

:)

So, OK, I cant write an OS to external disc directly within EMXP..Yeah, noticed the N/A to the right of the menu item for that......but if that the case, why put the option up there? It is just another thing that has me doin' the chimpanzze.., being I am a k

nuckle dragging mechanic for a living , if things are not 'drag and drop' or 'spelled out' in 'idiot speak' enough for me I start to scratch my arpits and pick my arse in confusion...yep, just like the monkey.....

All jokes aside....what page of the manaul shows me how to create the 'image' you speak of on my DOS formatted zip disk so that I can then put the Plus OS on the zip as well as some sound banks? Something about creating an image first?

If I can get that far, I will have this licked as long as I can the Plus OS disks I ordered from Ted to boot into the Emax when they arrive.

Thanks for all of your collective Input.



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Correct, zip disks/flash disks for Emax-I must not be *physically* formatted specifically for Emax when using them in EMXP. DOS formatted disks are OK.
BUT these disks can only be used for reading/writing banks and OS files after you have done a "logical" formatting of them, which means writing the filesystem to them. This can be done by generating an empty HD/CD image in EMXP and "restoring" it to that disk. Once that's done, you should be able to save banks and OS files to it.
As jammie already explained
And as explained in the EMXP manual.

Unless your problem is rather that EMXP won't recognize the DRIVE (as opposed to the DISK in that drive). I.e. the drive letter is not accepted by EMXP.
Please clarify the problem (error code...)

Regarding your floppy disk problems: I have sent you an email today (I wasn't online the past few days due to my job)

///E-Synthesist



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thats a good question.. but the answer is NO
Page 6 of the EMXP 2.11 pdf manual states the test conditions in which Esynthesist got EMXP to run
Go down to the ZIP drives used during the 'test configurations' used and he states
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
-Iomega 100 M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive USB (connected to PC)
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive PARALLEL (connected to PC)
HE GOES on further to state that the ZIP disks DO NOT have to be preformatted using the EMAX I before they can be used by EMXP
See "Creating Removeable Hard Disks/Zip Disks/Memory Cards of same manual, Page
71
for further clarification on this.

Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Lorne Hammond <lhammond@...> wrote:

doesn't it have to be a scsi zip drive? Lorne

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of windrumscoggin@...
Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?



Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

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Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-24 by jammie

you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it

then you change extention ez1 to .iso

you then use a burning program to write the iso to the dos formated zip 100 disk

its all in the manual
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  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 12:05 AM
  Subject: RE: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?


    

  Ah...generate an empty disk image first, then what, drag and drop that image onto the zip disk or use what menu commands....



  I am a little perterbured....it just confused the hell out of me...as if I wasn't already confuse enough

  :)

  So, OK, I cant write an OS to external disc directly within EMXP..Yeah, noticed the N/A to the right of the menu item for that......but if that the case, why put the option up there? It is just another thing that has me doin' the chimpanzze.., being I am a k

  nuckle dragging mechanic for a living , if things are not 'drag and drop' or 'spelled out' in 'idiot speak' enough for me I start to scratch my arpits and pick my arse in confusion...yep, just like the monkey.....



  All jokes aside....what page of the manaul shows me how to create the 'image' you speak of on my DOS formatted zip disk so that I can then put the Plus OS on the zip as well as some sound banks? Something about creating an image first?



    If I can get that far, I will have this licked as long as I can the Plus OS disks I ordered from Ted to boot into the Emax when they arrive.

  Thanks for all of your collective Input.





  ---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  Correct, zip disks/flash disks for Emax-I must not be *physically* formatted specifically for Emax when using them in EMXP. DOS formatted disks are OK.
  BUT these disks can only be used for reading/writing banks and OS files after you have done a "logical" formatting of them, which means writing the filesystem to them. This can be done by generating an empty HD/CD image in EMXP and "restoring" it to that disk. Once that's done, you should be able to save banks and OS files to it.
  As jammie already explained
  And as explained in the EMXP manual.

  Unless your problem is rather that EMXP won't recognize the DRIVE (as opposed to the DISK in that drive). I.e. the drive letter is not accepted by EMXP.
  Please clarify the problem (error code...)

  Regarding your floppy disk problems: I have sent you an email today (I wasn't online the past few days due to my job)

  ///E-Synthesist





  ---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  Thats a good question.. but the answer is NO

  Page 6 of the EMXP 2.11 pdf manual states the test conditions in which Esynthesist got EMXP to run

  Go down to the ZIP drives used during the 'test configurations' used and he states

  -Iomega 250M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
   -Iomega 100 M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
  -Iomega 250M ZIP drive USB (connected to PC)
  -Iomega 250M ZIP drive PARALLEL (connected to PC)

  HE GOES on further to state that the ZIP disks DO NOT have to be preformatted using the EMAX I before they can be used by EMXP

  See "Creating Removeable Hard Disks/Zip Disks/Memory Cards of same manual, Page
  71
  for further clarification on this.



   
      On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Lorne Hammond <lhammond@...> wrote:

          
        doesn't it have to be a scsi zip drive? Lorne

        From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of windrumscoggin@...
        Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
        To: emax@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP? 



        Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

        Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

        Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

        Error 89! etc etc...

        EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

        system:

        ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

        When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

        When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

        So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

        Your patience and great kindness 

        (ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

        EMU users are the best

        Greg

        Greg Scoggin


        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by windrumscoggin@...

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)

RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by windrumscoggin@...

Thank you.

Finally figured a bit of it out..still wont work with my FDD


But huh...so I can create an image, place it and banks and the OS onto the image, transfer it to the zip drive in EMXP (which i DID ) but in order for my EMAX to see it, I must rename it to an ISO image, then burn it all using a burning program to a zip disk? Don't know why, but OK..only reason I could see burning it all to a disc is to make CD that would be readable by a SCSI CD rom in use with the Emax...Not sure I am following why an ISO image has to be burned for the Emax to read the ZIP disk if EMXP has already done most of the heavy lifting?


confused..why the extra step of having to burn it? Doesn't EMXP create a Zip disk that is readable by the Emax once the disc image routine (ez1) is created and transfered to the ZIP along with the Sound banks etc?

Am I missing a required step here?



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it
then you change extention ez1 to .iso
you then use a burning program to write the iso to the dos formated zip 100 disk
its all in the manual
Show quoted textHide quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 12:05 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Ah...generate an empty disk image first, then what, drag and drop that image onto the zip disk or use what menu commands....

I am a little perterbured....it just confused the hell out of me...as if I wasn't already confuse enough

:)

So, OK, I cant write an OS to external disc directly within EMXP..Yeah, noticed the N/A to the right of the menu item for that......but if that the case, why put the option up there? It is just another thing that has me doin' the chimpanzze.., being I am a k

nuckle dragging mechanic for a living , if things are not 'drag and drop' or 'spelled out' in 'idiot speak' enough for me I start to scratch my arpits and pick my arse in confusion...yep, just like the monkey.....

All jokes aside....what page of the manaul shows me how to create the 'image' you speak of on my DOS formatted zip disk so that I can then put the Plus OS on the zip as well as some sound banks? Something about creating an image first?

If I can get that far, I will have this licked as long as I can the Plus OS disks I ordered from Ted to boot into the Emax when they arrive.

Thanks for all of your collective Input.



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Correct, zip disks/flash disks for Emax-I must not be *physically* formatted specifically for Emax when using them in EMXP. DOS formatted disks are OK.
BUT these disks can only be used for reading/writing banks and OS files after you have done a "logical" formatting of them, which means writing the filesystem to them. This can be done by generating an empty HD/CD image in EMXP and "restoring" it to that disk. Once that's done, you should be able to save banks and OS files to it.
As jammie already explained
And as explained in the EMXP manual.

Unless your problem is rather that EMXP won't recognize the DRIVE (as opposed to the DISK in that drive). I.e. the drive letter is not accepted by EMXP.
Please clarify the problem (error code...)

Regarding your floppy disk problems: I have sent you an email today (I wasn't online the past few days due to my job)

///E-Synthesist



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thats a good question.. but the answer is NO
Page 6 of the EMXP 2.11 pdf manual states the test conditions in which Esynthesist got EMXP to run
Go down to the ZIP drives used during the 'test configurations' used and he states
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
-Iomega 100 M ZIP drive SCSI (connected to Emax Sampler)
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive USB (connected to PC)
-Iomega 250M ZIP drive PARALLEL (connected to PC)
HE GOES on further to state that the ZIP disks DO NOT have to be preformatted using the EMAX I before they can be used by EMXP
See "Creating Removeable Hard Disks/Zip Disks/Memory Cards of same manual, Page
71
for further clarification on this.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Lorne Hammond <lhammond@...> wrote:

doesn't it have to be a scsi zip drive? Lorne

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of windrumscoggin@...
Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?



Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by esynthesist@...

(...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.


(...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.


Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.


Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by Windrum Scoggin

Right
I truly believe my Emax FDD is original and
being so old
It needs calibration and head alignment
and or just over all replacement
do you know of anyone or a professional
shop that can do this?
Thank Youl
Greg
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, <esynthesist@...> wrote:

(...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.


(...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.


Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.


Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)




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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by jammie

fit a slim floppy they are new
getting a floppy that will fit the hole is really hard and they cost just as much as a floppy emulator does
so a floppy emulator or a slim floppy pcd-60b combo might be a better option as seeing you have a emax hd
have you upgraded to the se yet as you need todo that before your machine will see a plus os disk
and you need omniflop for creating that as its a img from esynthesis
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right
I truly believe my Emax FDD is original and
being so old
It needs calibration and head alignment
and or just over all replacement
do you know of anyone or a professional
shop that can do this?
Thank Youl
Greg
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, <esynthesist@yahoo.com> wrote:

(...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.


(...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.


Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.


Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)




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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by Windrum Scoggin

Yep,
you are right
want to go 60b and slim floppy conversion.
Where do I buy a slim floppy?
Anywhere?
Any special pin assignments need to be made?
My unit is an Emax I HD
with OS HD SE rEv 1.1
I think its FDD is shot as it won't read emx formatted disks and when it formats disks emx wont read them. It only reads its own disks.
POS
ha ha
Right on!


Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

fit a slim floppy they are new
getting a floppy that will fit the hole is really hard and they cost just as much as a floppy emulator does
so a floppy emulator or a slim floppy pcd-60b combo might be a better option as seeing you have a emax hd
have you upgraded to the se yet as you need todo that before your machine will see a plus os disk
and you need omniflop for creating that as its a img from esynthesis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right
I truly believe my Emax FDD is original and
being so old
It needs calibration and head alignment
and or just over all replacement
do you know of anyone or a professional
shop that can do this?
Thank Youl
Greg
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, <esynthesist@...> wrote:

(...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.


(...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.


Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.


Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)




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Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by Daniel Baum

FWIW, I have used EMXP with a 100MB USB zip drive, when I was transferring Emax II banks from a CDROM to zip disks.

I used the USB zip drive with my laptop, and then read them from a SCSI zip drive on my Emax II.

D.

PS. I am about to have some more EMXP adventures with my new Emulator II, but that is a different story altogether...



On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Lorne Hammond <lhammond@...> wrote:

doesn't it have to be a scsi zip drive? Lorne

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of windrumscoggin@...
Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by Windrum Scoggin

Does your emax boot from the scsi zip drive
?

Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Daniel Baum <daniel@...> wrote:

FWIW, I have used EMXP with a 100MB USB zip drive, when I was transferring Emax II banks from a CDROM to zip disks.

I used the USB zip drive with my laptop, and then read them from a SCSI zip drive on my Emax II.

D.

PS. I am about to have some more EMXP adventures with my new Emulator II, but that is a different story altogether...



On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Lorne Hammond <lhammond@uvic.ca> wrote:

doesn't it have to be a scsi zip drive? Lorne

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of windrumscoggin@...
Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by Daniel Baum

I've never tried that; it has a hard disk. I have booted a Mac Plus from one though, if that makes any difference :)

D.


On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Windrum Scoggin <windrumscoggin@...> wrote:


Does your emax boot from the scsi zip drive
?

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Daniel Baum <daniel@...> wrote:

FWIW, I have used EMXP with a 100MB USB zip drive, when I was transferring Emax II banks from a CDROM to zip disks.

I used the USB zip drive with my laptop, and then read them from a SCSI zip drive on my Emax II.

D.

PS. I am about to have some more EMXP adventures with my new Emulator II, but that is a different story altogether...



On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Lorne Hammond <lhammond@...> wrote:

doesn't it have to be a scsi zip drive? Lorne

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of windrumscoggin@...
Sent: October-24-13 8:26 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by esynthesist@...

I used a Teac F05HG slim floppy drive with Ted's little floppy adapter board in my Emax keyboard.

But other slim floppy drives may work as well (see the compatibility database in this group), e.g. I also have some Sony drives as spare part.


I bought my drives second hand on Ebay.



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yep,
you are right
want to go 60b and slim floppy conversion.
Where do I buy a slim floppy?
Anywhere?
Any special pin assignments need to be made?
My unit is an Emax I HD
with OS HD SE rEv 1.1
I think its FDD is shot as it won't read emx formatted disks and when it formats disks emx wont read them. It only reads its own disks.
POS
ha ha
Right on!


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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

fit a slim floppy they are new
getting a floppy that will fit the hole is really hard and they cost just as much as a floppy emulator does
so a floppy emulator or a slim floppy pcd-60b combo might be a better option as seeing you have a emax hd
have you upgraded to the se yet as you need todo that before your machine will see a plus os disk
and you need omniflop for creating that as its a img from esynthesis
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right
I truly believe my Emax FDD is original and
being so old
It needs calibration and head alignment
and or just over all replacement
do you know of anyone or a professional
shop that can do this?
Thank Youl
Greg
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, <esynthesist@...> wrote:

(...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.


(...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.


Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.


Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)




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Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by Ted Summers

I don't sell the adapters anymore as the demand isn't there for it and then I got people complaining about the price.
The instructions to mod it yourself are on my website...

http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/jm215a-slim-floppy-adapter-modifications/

-Ted
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM, <esynthesist@...> wrote:

I used a Teac F05HG slim floppy drive with Ted's little floppy adapter board in my Emax keyboard.

But other slim floppy drives may work as well (see the compatibility database in this group), e.g. I also have some Sony drives as spare part.


I bought my drives second hand on Ebay.



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yep,
you are right
want to go 60b and slim floppy conversion.
Where do I buy a slim floppy?
Anywhere?
Any special pin assignments need to be made?
My unit is an Emax I HD
with OS HD SE rEv 1.1
I think its FDD is shot as it won't read emx formatted disks and when it formats disks emx wont read them. It only reads its own disks.
POS
ha ha
Right on!


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

fit a slim floppy they are new
getting a floppy that will fit the hole is really hard and they cost just as much as a floppy emulator does
so a floppy emulator or a slim floppy pcd-60b combo might be a better option as seeing you have a emax hd
have you upgraded to the se yet as you need todo that before your machine will see a plus os disk
and you need omniflop for creating that as its a img from esynthesis
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right
I truly believe my Emax FDD is original and
being so old
It needs calibration and head alignment
and or just over all replacement
do you know of anyone or a professional
shop that can do this?
Thank Youl
Greg
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, <esynthesist@...> wrote:

(...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.


(...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.


Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.


Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)




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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by jammie

as seeing your buy ted he can get you a slim floppy adapter and converted for you if you ask him nicely
the pcd-60b are available on ebay as kursweil hotswap drives they do internal and external
slim floppy drive will cost you £5 off ebay nos i have 3 spare but again ted can point you in the write direction
yes the cf cards will have plus os on them and 35 banks of 512k samples and as many cards as you want
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Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Yep,
you are right
want to go 60b and slim floppy conversion.
Where do I buy a slim floppy?
Anywhere?
Any special pin assignments need to be made?
My unit is an Emax I HD
with OS HD SE rEv 1.1
I think its FDD is shot as it won't read emx formatted disks and when it formats disks emx wont read them. It only reads its own disks.
POS
ha ha
Right on!


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

fit a slim floppy they are new
getting a floppy that will fit the hole is really hard and they cost just as much as a floppy emulator does
so a floppy emulator or a slim floppy pcd-60b combo might be a better option as seeing you have a emax hd
have you upgraded to the se yet as you need todo that before your machine will see a plus os disk
and you need omniflop for creating that as its a img from esynthesis
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right
I truly believe my Emax FDD is original and
being so old
It needs calibration and head alignment
and or just over all replacement
do you know of anyone or a professional
shop that can do this?
Thank Youl
Greg
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, <esynthesist@...> wrote:

(...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.


(...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.


Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.


Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)




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Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by jammie

i have used teac/ mitshita/ sony and  dell which are branded teac

to name a few and they all work the same but some come with the wrong type cable as they use a special; motherboard connection that is reversed

and the slim floppy adapters the connection is opposite
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  From: esynthesist@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:55 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?


    

  I used a Teac F05HG slim floppy drive with Ted's little floppy adapter board in my Emax keyboard.


  But other slim floppy drives may work as well (see the compatibility database in this group), e.g. I also have some Sony drives as spare part.





  I bought my drives second hand on Ebay.




  ---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  Yep,
  you are right
  want to go 60b and slim floppy conversion.
  Where do I buy a slim floppy?
  Anywhere?
  Any special pin assignments need to be made?

  My unit is an Emax I HD
  with OS HD SE rEv 1.1

  I think its FDD is shot as it won't read emx formatted disks and when it formats disks emx wont read them. It only reads its own disks.
  POS
  ha ha
  Right on!


   
    On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

        

      fit a slim floppy they are new

      getting a floppy that will fit the hole is really hard and they cost just as much as a floppy emulator does

      so a floppy emulator or a slim floppy pcd-60b combo might be a better option as seeing you have a emax hd

      have you upgraded to the se yet as you need todo that before your machine will see a plus os disk 

      and you need omniflop for creating that as its a img from esynthesis 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Windrum Scoggin 
        To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
        Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:40 PM
        Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?


          

        Right
        I truly believe my Emax FDD is original and 
        being so old
        It needs calibration and head alignment
        and or just over all replacement
        do you know of anyone or a professional
        shop that can do this?
        Thank Youl
        Greg

        On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, <esynthesist@...> wrote:

            



          (...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

          Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

          BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.  





          (...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

          I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

          That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.





          Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.




          Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)










          ---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


          "you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"





          SO

          Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.





          Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

          there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

          need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

          Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

          :)





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Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-25 by jammie

yes i find that so silly as it cost to buy them then you have to pay postage then you have to mod them which all takes time
i always thought your prices was ok as before i got my ones from germany it used to cost me £12 postage from usa to get them from a ebay seller unmodded which was actually dearer than what you were selling yours for
if you want one i have made up spares
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Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

I don't sell the adapters anymore as the demand isn't there for it and then I got people complaining about the price.
The instructions to mod it yourself are on my website...

http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/jm215a-slim-floppy-adapter-modifications/

-Ted


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM, <esynthesist@yahoo.com> wrote:

I used a Teac F05HG slim floppy drive with Ted's little floppy adapter board in my Emax keyboard.

But other slim floppy drives may work as well (see the compatibility database in this group), e.g. I also have some Sony drives as spare part.


I bought my drives second hand on Ebay.



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yep,
you are right
want to go 60b and slim floppy conversion.
Where do I buy a slim floppy?
Anywhere?
Any special pin assignments need to be made?
My unit is an Emax I HD
with OS HD SE rEv 1.1
I think its FDD is shot as it won't read emx formatted disks and when it formats disks emx wont read them. It only reads its own disks.
POS
ha ha
Right on!


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

fit a slim floppy they are new
getting a floppy that will fit the hole is really hard and they cost just as much as a floppy emulator does
so a floppy emulator or a slim floppy pcd-60b combo might be a better option as seeing you have a emax hd
have you upgraded to the se yet as you need todo that before your machine will see a plus os disk
and you need omniflop for creating that as its a img from esynthesis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Right
I truly believe my Emax FDD is original and
being so old
It needs calibration and head alignment
and or just over all replacement
do you know of anyone or a professional
shop that can do this?
Thank Youl
Greg
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, <esynthesist@...> wrote:

(...) SO Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM (...)

Indeed; the fancy GUI version will require a huge license fee :-)

BTW: I'm always wondering why some musicians succeed in operating an Ensoniq Mirage but menu-driven DOS style programs.


(...) Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read... there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you (...)

I understand that having step-by-step guides would be very nice but there are so many different things that users can achieve with EMXP that it's simply impossible to write step-by-step guides for all of these scenarios. Remember: EMXP supports multiple samplers, multiple disk/file types per sampler, and multiple types of activities (reading, writing, formatting, copying, deleting, converting, ...)

That being said... the problem regarding creating Emax ZIP disks and how to efficiently copy banks to them is imho actually pretty well explained in the manual (including step-by-step text boxes) in chapter 6.1 on page 107-109.


Good to hear that you succeeded in creating the Emax ZIP disk.


Regarding the floppy drive issue: it could be the head alignment/calibration of the Emax drive itself which is deviating too much from the standard norm (as opposed to the floppy drives of your PCs)





---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"you create an image in the emxp this image is a .ez1 image you can load os and banks to it......its all in the manual"


SO

Yeah.... I get it...this is a VERY LITERAL PROGRAM.


Its all in the manual...but not that easy to read...

there just needs to be a simple step by step guide on what you

need to make a zip disk, so in next post I am posting an easy, step by step guid on how to create a zip disk.

Thanks for making this freeware Program...we'd all be screwed without it way worse than if we didn't have it

:)




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RE: EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-26 by windrumscoggin@...

Jammie,

Yeah, if you have the brackets and adapters and a spare slim floppy made up and ready to drop in I'd be willing to purchase that and some of your special sound banks. I would just need to send you the SD memory cards....

contact me offline and let me know what you want for the slim floppy and the sound cards and mounting brackets....

greg



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <windrumscoggin@...> wrote:

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

Re: [emax] RE: EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-26 by jammie

its best to use compact flash cards

ill send you a ebay link in uk where i get mine from

is it going into a rack or keyboard 

as you will need to do some of the work as you need to drill your own  bracket if its the rack and drill 2 holes for fitting the slim floppy adapter 

if its a keyboard i can send you 4 brackets and the 4 allen key screws to fit and 4 rubber shock mount washers

just use a pcmcia to cf card adapter as the pcmcia slot is the only one that works in the pcd-60b and is set to scsi id0 with no jumpers fitted on ther scsi id pins

the converted slim floppy adapter is £18 a new slim floppy is £12

the mounting brackets are free  and i provide some screws with nuts for the fixing of the slim floppy 

how many cf cards are you wanting
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  Subject: [emax] RE: EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?


    

  Jammie,

  Yeah, if you have the brackets and adapters and a spare slim floppy made up and ready to drop in I'd be willing to purchase that and some of your special sound banks. I would just need to send you the SD memory cards....

  contact me offline and let me know what you want for the slim floppy and the sound cards and mounting brackets....

  greg





  ---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <windrumscoggin@...> wrote:


  Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO



  Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO



  Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

  Error 89! etc etc...



  EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

  system:

  ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.



  When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..



  When I  test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine.  This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I  (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway)  for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.



  So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I



  Your patience and great kindness 

  (ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

  EMU users are the best

  Greg

  Greg Scoggin




  
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Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-26 by Windrum Scoggin

Hi Jammie
thanks for selling me the slim floppy disc and the brackets to mount stuff
my PC D60B is on its way
I won it for $149 on eBay

I sure hope he sends that PCMCIA adapter part of it he didn't say anything about that
In the auction but I do know the unit is brand-new

How many banks of sounds of transwaves and other cool stuff you selling? Only you need you know what you were selling and how many of the banks will fit on CompactFlash cards so only you can tell me how many cards I need and how many CF cards. I should bu.
let me know thanks man
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On Saturday, October 26, 2013, jammie wrote:

its best to use compact flash cards
ill send you a ebay link in uk where i get mine from
is it going into a rack or keyboard
as you will need to do some of the work as you need to drill your own bracket if its the rack and drill 2 holes for fitting the slim floppy adapter
if its a keyboard i can send you 4 brackets and the 4 allen key screws to fit and 4 rubber shock mount washers
just use a pcmcia to cf card adapter as the pcmcia slot is the only one that works in the pcd-60b and is set to scsi id0 with no jumpers fitted on ther scsi id pins
the converted slim floppy adapter is £18 a new slim floppy is £12
the mounting brackets are free and i provide some screws with nuts for the fixing of the slim floppy
how many cf cards are you wanting
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: [emax] RE: EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Jammie,

Yeah, if you have the brackets and adapters and a spare slim floppy made up and ready to drop in I'd be willing to purchase that and some of your special sound banks. I would just need to send you the SD memory cards....

contact me offline and let me know what you want for the slim floppy and the sound cards and mounting brackets....

greg



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6781 - Release Date: 10/25/13



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Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

2013-10-27 by jammie

you get 35 banks of 512k samples in glorious 8bits compressed this is compressed from 16bits audio of 1mb
so you get 1mb of sample content in each bank at the highest frequency of the emax if i do it at 22050khz you can get nearly 2mb of 16bit audio content
as seeing most samples dont even reach a frequency of 11khz
22.5khz is good enough
as proven by me with my rhodes suitcase piano for the ensoniq asr10
with 6 layers with 15 multisamples per layer and it is only 8mb in size with each sample of 12 seconds each
which is shown on the sound examples in my sound cload
i use appogee convertors that are 192khz 24bit but i onl.y sample at a frequency of \32khz for the t seires 24 for the t series and 22.5 for kurzweil and yamaha sy85/99 and eps and asr10
so now you get 35 banks to 1 cf card of 32mb/64/128 depending on what cf cards are available cheaply
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [emax] EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Hi Jammie
thanks for selling me the slim floppy disc and the brackets to mount stuff
my PC D60B is on its way
I won it for $149 on eBay

I sure hope he sends that PCMCIA adapter part of it he didn't say anything about that
In the auction but I do know the unit is brand-new

How many banks of sounds of transwaves and other cool stuff you selling? Only you need you know what you were selling and how many of the banks will fit on CompactFlash cards so only you can tell me how many cards I need and how many CF cards. I should bu.
let me know thanks man

Show quoted textHide quoted text


On Saturday, October 26, 2013, jammie wrote:

its best to use compact flash cards
ill send you a ebay link in uk where i get mine from
is it going into a rack or keyboard
as you will need to do some of the work as you need to drill your own bracket if its the rack and drill 2 holes for fitting the slim floppy adapter
if its a keyboard i can send you 4 brackets and the 4 allen key screws to fit and 4 rubber shock mount washers
just use a pcmcia to cf card adapter as the pcmcia slot is the only one that works in the pcd-60b and is set to scsi id0 with no jumpers fitted on ther scsi id pins
the converted slim floppy adapter is £18 a new slim floppy is £12
the mounting brackets are free and i provide some screws with nuts for the fixing of the slim floppy
how many cf cards are you wanting
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: [emax] RE: EMXP Sucess Specs Anyone? What system you running with EMXP?

Jammie,

Yeah, if you have the brackets and adapters and a spare slim floppy made up and ready to drop in I'd be willing to purchase that and some of your special sound banks. I would just need to send you the SD memory cards....

contact me offline and let me know what you want for the slim floppy and the sound cards and mounting brackets....

greg



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Well, tried Windows XP 64 bit with 64 bit omniflop drivers...NO GO

Windows XP 32 bit with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Windows Vista 32 this morning, with 32 bit omniflop drivers..NO GO

Error 89! etc etc...

EMXP won't work in any of the above OS configurations on my

system:

ASUS P5E MOBO with TEAC FDD running 4 gig Patriot DDR2 800Mhz RAM and Intel Core2Quad 2.4 ghz CPU.

When I say won't work I mean it wont see my internal IDE ZIP drive, a FAT32 formatted CF card or a Floppy disk formatted in my EMAX I OS SE rev 1.1 as usable media and gives me errors to the effect that the media is NOT EMAX usable etc etc..

When I test disks I formatted on my Emax I with a computer here at work (Commodore Desktop running Windows 95-yes ancient) using EMX through DOS, the Emax I formaated disks test fine. This tells me it isn't a matter of a bad floppy DD alignment in my EMAX I (The FDD is not the ONLY thing it will not see, anyway) for if that were the case (No offense to Jammie's theory, it's a good one nonetheless!) the Emax I formatted disks would not check out fine, nor be able to be read by the Win95 system here at work. IE: EMX would see the disks as bad, too.

So, I deduce this down to some kind of hardware/driver/EMXP compatibility issue with my system and now ask any of YOU who are running know GOOD EMXP systems to please share what your FDD/MOBO configurations are so I can build a system that will successfuly run EMXP and finally get some sounds into my EMAX I

Your patience and great kindness

(ESPECIALLY TED!) with my myriad questions and issues throughout this process has been greatly appreciated.

EMU users are the best

Greg

Greg Scoggin

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6781 - Release Date: 10/25/13



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Le Sociere Des Oscillateurs Mystere

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