EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi,

Steve Morrell wrote:
> It seems that OSX and AU have been around for quite some time now,

In OS terms, not really.  OS 10.1 was an early start, with very basic AU
support.  A lot of things changed when 10.2 came out, with a much improved
AU programming interface.  And a whole lot of new things are coming out
in 10.3, as well as bug fixes and other enhancements which will be folded
back into the 10.2.x streams for those who wish to stay with Jaguar.

Fortunately, all of this is open and documented, unlike the bad old days
of VST.

> and there are still a lot of problems.

True, but then we are using computers ;-)

> It seems particularly bad to me that even the AU plugs of Emagic

The Emagic AU developers are on the core-audio list, so they do know that
Logic and their AU plugins have problems, and they _are_ fixing them.

> (who are now in Apple's pocket)

*sigh*  What has this to do with this matter??

> do not work with other programs that are "AU compatible"

<humour>
I thought people wanted their AUs to behave like VSTs, including
incompatabilities too!
</humour>

> Don't mean to vent here, but I was realy hoping to settle in w/ the EXS
> family so I can use the same libraries (without wasting time and
> disk-space) in both Logic and DP.

Well, I am sure that soon we will see the EXSP24 AU fixed up when the
validation tool from Apple becomes available to developers.  Other AU host
developers will be checking the Emagic AUs as they will want to host them,
Apple will very likely check various vendors' AUs to see if they meet the
AU API specs, consumers will be able to check whether the fault is with an
AU or not, and so on.

Note: there was never such a tool as this for VST as far as I am aware.

I suspect that these first versions (important point) are simply quick
ports of the old VST code over to the AU playform.  There have been
several problems with the Emagic VST2AU library discussed on the
core-audio list, so I imagine that they only tested these AUs with Logic,
they worked, so they shipped them 'cos everyone was screaming for them.

When I get my Mac back on line I will be checking the EXSP24 against the
validation tool, and will be letting Emagic know the results (although I
have a feeling that I won't be alone in this venture!!)

Cheers,
Neil

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