EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

> On Jan 15, 2004, at 9:38 AM, zig100n wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking to expand my library and I appreciate the recommendations
>> to select great muted trumpets and sax samples playing fine with EXS.
>> Thanks >JJ

Solo or ensemble?
>> 
>> 
> The only good muted trumpet or saxophone sample is a good trumpet
> player or a saxophone player.

The only good purist is a dead purist?

> Woodwinds and muted horns sounds are as
> difficult to be sampled as the human voice because they are just as
> personal.

some people don't want personal. In the 70's that amounted to paying a lot
of money to a bunch of guys who wanted to sound like themselves and ask them
to sound anonymous. they hate that and complain. Doesn't make for a fun
session or easy results.

> As a hornplayer, I am  terribly biased of course.
> U can fake a nicely 'organic' horn section if u blend as little as one
> real sax track into some 'pads' u lay down with a sequencer with
> standard sax sounds I believe, if u can't get together a whole bunch of
> players to play your riffs. Real horns will always sound like a million
> dollars.
> till

Real horns will always sound like a million dollars played by whom? "ya, I
think Joey down the street has a trombone. He used to play in high school...
huh? He has no teeth left? damn, I guess it's time for horn samples."

I agree that real horns, or any instrument played by a really talented human
being or group of humans who like each other is far better than any sample
I've ever heard for 99% of my music, BUT what if you are sitting in your
room in the East Village and it's 4am and you can't have your horn buddies
over to play. You'll wake your neighbors, the cops'll come and confiscate
everything! Better to get a nice Horn Library for the EXS, work out your
parts with something that sounds pretty close to real and then have the real
guys come redo it when you're mixing in the super nice facility with a Neve
down the street. Or maybe you can't get very good horn Players because you
live in Nebraska. You only know the guys in the local firehouse parade
band... Then a good horn Sample library might come in handy again. Or maybe
you don't want an Organic sound! You want super tight parts like Jerry Hey
in the 80's but all the horn players you know are jazzers and sound too sexy
and Jerry Hey is too expensive to fly to Nebraska. You need horn samples
ESPECIALLY if you're a horn player and you want to write ensemble stuff
IMHO.

It's just tools. No one is stealing work from you.
You can get really amazing horn samples these days that actual horn players
have helped put together.
You can get Virtual guitarist and never call me for a session again.
I don't care because I have the SAM Horns!!!! raaaaaaghhhhhh

I wish I had an answer to the original post after all that, but I don't.
I too usually call my friends if I want horns.

happy birthday, Till
Teddy