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Re: [EXS] Was The Best EXS Drum Sample CD? - Multiple outs????

2004-05-31 by Sascha Franck

I wrote:
> > The bad thing here is that extracting MIDI notes by pitch from a
> > single MIDI
> > drum sequence is still working in a way that would make me laugh if it
> > wasn't that sad...

Paul Najar replied:
> What's your gripe about it.? Agreed it could be better but it's way
> from unusable....

When recording/programming a drumtrack (on one single track that is) I
usually end up with sequences containing at least 5 notes (most often more).
Now, usually I also have more than just one sequence on that track (and, for
obvious formal reasons, I don't want to glue these together), let's say an
average songe might contain around 20 sequences - could easily be way more.
When you select your drum sequences and do a "demix by note pitch" Logic
will create one new track per found note (which is what you'd suspect, fine
so far...) but it will also do this for EACH and EVERY sequence found on
that drumtrack!
So, in the above mentioned scenario I will end up with 5x20 new tracks in my
arrangement! That's 100 new tracks, all with rather small sequences on
them!!! I really can't see this being too much useful... let alone that
there's no Logic behind the procedure at all - plus, I easily end up having
more individual notes per sequence, and a whole lot more sequences in a song
too, so ending up with around 200+ new tracks would not be so unlikely to
happen.
Just take a look at this:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/exs/Orig.jpg
That's only 4 sequences, each containing 5 notes - almost nothing.
Now take a look at the demix by note pitch result:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/exs/Result.jpg
FWIW, Cubase does it exactly the same way and so far I haven't found anybody
being able to explain this silly behaviour to me.
But (and that's a BIG but!), Cubase does at least have some Logical Edit
(pretty much the same as Logic's Transformer) function called "extract to
selected track" which is highly useful, especially whenever you only need to
have one single note (let's say your snare) extracted for special
treatments.

> I know, "use
> your ears" and all that, and I do, but having a true point of reference
> reduces mental clutter or doubt, and this, I must say is usually my
> ultimate criteria. YMMV

Well, in a way you're right, but usually I still prefer to trust my ears
(whether that's a good or bad idea is an entirely different story... ;o))

Regards,
Sascha

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