EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

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> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "jojje" <jojjsus_christ@h...> wrote:
>> I was just wondering about the groove or feel when you quantize in
>> logic! People talk about the AKAI MPC2000XL sampler and that it´s
> got a
>> really good feel or swing! How can you achieve that in logic?
>
> I think that's more like a question for the LUG, but however -
> there's lots of quantization options, you should just fool around
> with the extended parameter box to see what they're actually doing.
> In case you want to "copy" the groove of an MPC2000 I could only
> recommend trying to find some loops of it, load them into Logic and
> use the "audio to MIDI groove template" function of Logic's time and
> pitch machine.
> Alternatively you may want to load them into any loop slicing tool
> (such as Phatmatik Pro, ReCycle or Intakt) and export the MIDI groove
> from there into Logic, then make a template out of that.
>
> - Sascha

On 29/10/2004, at 2:28 AM, gary pozner wrote
>
> In addition to the statement below, which is a really good/answer
> solution. The main thing to note, is that it is the inaccuracies or
> humanness of the MPC that gives it such a good feel.  Linn drums had
> their own feel, Roland's which were more perfect had their own feel.  
> As
> do actual drummers.  I.e. if you analyzed the groove of a drummer you
> love you would find that he/she is all over the beat. Maybe the kick
> slightly ahead, snare a little behind, etc.
> Gary

Try this. On an MPC (or any external drum sequencer) and pick a sound 
like hi hat or rim shot and do a one bar pattern with the sound playing 
EVERY 16th note. You will have a one bar pattern with 16 hits in it. 
Cable midi out from device to midi in  Logic and record the midi notes 
into logic using the sending device's midi clock as master. Record 4 
bars into Logic so the midi clock stabilises. In Logic, cut the 4th bar 
so you have a one bar region in Logic with 16 notes in it. Do NOT 
quantise it. Select this region and invoke "make midi Groove Template".

You now have made an exact copy of the MPC's groove to apply to midi 
tracks within Logic. Go back and repeat this process each time changing 
the quantise in the MPC to different swing values etc. and you can 
build up a whole groove template library in logic mimicking the feel 
characteristics of any device.

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Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com