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Hi,

I've got a tape with smpte on - connected the signal
to my unitor 8. I would like to have logic listen to
the signal. Checked framerate and type, putted logic
in ext sync. But it doesn't seem to work ?? Is there a
way to see if the unitor receives the signal and how
can I get this thing to work ?

Thnx
Daniel

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On 27.10.2004 4:18 Uhr, "Daniel Bal" <dbdaniel4u@...> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've got a tape with smpte on - connected the signal
> to my unitor 8. I would like to have logic listen to
> the signal. Checked framerate and type, putted logic
> in ext sync. But it doesn't seem to work ?? Is there a
> way to see if the unitor receives the signal and how
> can I get this thing to work ?
> 
> Thnx
> Daniel
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I was just wondering about the groove or feel when you quantize in
logic! People talk about the AKAI MPC2000XL sampler and that it´s got a
really good feel or swing! How can you achieve that in logic?
 
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--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "jojje" <jojjsus_christ@h...> wrote:
> I was just wondering about the groove or feel when you quantize in
> logic! People talk about the AKAI MPC2000XL sampler and that it´s 
got a
> really good feel or swing! How can you achieve that in logic?

I think that's more like a question for the LUG, but however - 
there's lots of quantization options, you should just fool around 
with the extended parameter box to see what they're actually doing.
In case you want to "copy" the groove of an MPC2000 I could only 
recommend trying to find some loops of it, load them into Logic and 
use the "audio to MIDI groove template" function of Logic's time and 
pitch machine.
Alternatively you may want to load them into any loop slicing tool 
(such as Phatmatik Pro, ReCycle or Intakt) and export the MIDI groove 
from there into Logic, then make a template out of that.

- Sascha

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "jojje" <jojjsus_christ@h...> wrote:
> I was just wondering about the groove or feel when you quantize in
> logic! People talk about the AKAI MPC2000XL sampler and that it´s 
got a
> really good feel or swing! How can you achieve that in logic?

I think that's more like a question for the LUG, but however - 
there's lots of quantization options, you should just fool around 
with the extended parameter box to see what they're actually doing.
In case you want to "copy" the groove of an MPC2000 I could only 
recommend trying to find some loops of it, load them into Logic and 
use the "audio to MIDI groove template" function of Logic's time and 
pitch machine.
Alternatively you may want to load them into any loop slicing tool 
(such as Phatmatik Pro, ReCycle or Intakt) and export the MIDI groove 
from there into Logic, then make a template out of that.

- Sascha

In addition to the statement below, which is a really good/answer
solution. The main thing to note, is that it is the inaccuracies or
humanness of the MPC that gives it such a good feel.  Linn drums had
their own feel, Roland's which were more perfect had their own feel.  As
do actual drummers.  I.e. if you analyzed the groove of a drummer you
love you would find that he/she is all over the beat. Maybe the kick
slightly ahead, snare a little behind, etc.
Gary

>
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "jojje" <jojjsus_christ@h...> wrote:
>> I was just wondering about the groove or feel when you quantize in
>> logic! People talk about the AKAI MPC2000XL sampler and that it´s
> got a
>> really good feel or swing! How can you achieve that in logic?
>
> I think that's more like a question for the LUG, but however -
> there's lots of quantization options, you should just fool around
> with the extended parameter box to see what they're actually doing.
> In case you want to "copy" the groove of an MPC2000 I could only
> recommend trying to find some loops of it, load them into Logic and
> use the "audio to MIDI groove template" function of Logic's time and
> pitch machine.
> Alternatively you may want to load them into any loop slicing tool
> (such as Phatmatik Pro, ReCycle or Intakt) and export the MIDI groove
> from there into Logic, then make a template out of that.
>
> - Sascha

On 29/10/2004, at 2:28 AM, gary pozner wrote
>
> In addition to the statement below, which is a really good/answer
> solution. The main thing to note, is that it is the inaccuracies or
> humanness of the MPC that gives it such a good feel.  Linn drums had
> their own feel, Roland's which were more perfect had their own feel.  
> As
> do actual drummers.  I.e. if you analyzed the groove of a drummer you
> love you would find that he/she is all over the beat. Maybe the kick
> slightly ahead, snare a little behind, etc.
> Gary

Try this. On an MPC (or any external drum sequencer) and pick a sound 
like hi hat or rim shot and do a one bar pattern with the sound playing 
EVERY 16th note. You will have a one bar pattern with 16 hits in it. 
Cable midi out from device to midi in  Logic and record the midi notes 
into logic using the sending device's midi clock as master. Record 4 
bars into Logic so the midi clock stabilises. In Logic, cut the 4th bar 
so you have a one bar region in Logic with 16 notes in it. Do NOT 
quantise it. Select this region and invoke "make midi Groove Template".

You now have made an exact copy of the MPC's groove to apply to midi 
tracks within Logic. Go back and repeat this process each time changing 
the quantise in the MPC to different swing values etc. and you can 
build up a whole groove template library in logic mimicking the feel 
characteristics of any device.

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com

Thanks for all the help!really appreciate it! Especially your tip there 
Paul! Is it true that people buy an mpc just because of its groove or feel! 
isnt there any other reason? Because if groove templates is something you 
can import into logic and someone puts the template on the internet for 
downloading , then it would seem pretty unessecary to buy an mpc for 1000$!!

regards

george

>From: Paul Najar <paulnajar@...>
>Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Quantize
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:52:22 +1000
>
>
> >
> > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "jojje" <jojjsus_christ@h...> wrote:
> >> I was just wondering about the groove or feel when you quantize in
> >> logic! People talk about the AKAI MPC2000XL sampler and that it\ufffds
> > got a
> >> really good feel or swing! How can you achieve that in logic?
> >
> > I think that's more like a question for the LUG, but however -
> > there's lots of quantization options, you should just fool around
> > with the extended parameter box to see what they're actually doing.
> > In case you want to "copy" the groove of an MPC2000 I could only
> > recommend trying to find some loops of it, load them into Logic and
> > use the "audio to MIDI groove template" function of Logic's time and
> > pitch machine.
> > Alternatively you may want to load them into any loop slicing tool
> > (such as Phatmatik Pro, ReCycle or Intakt) and export the MIDI groove
> > from there into Logic, then make a template out of that.
> >
> > - Sascha
>
>On 29/10/2004, at 2:28 AM, gary pozner wrote
> >
> > In addition to the statement below, which is a really good/answer
> > solution. The main thing to note, is that it is the inaccuracies or
> > humanness of the MPC that gives it such a good feel.  Linn drums had
> > their own feel, Roland's which were more perfect had their own feel.
> > As
> > do actual drummers.  I.e. if you analyzed the groove of a drummer you
> > love you would find that he/she is all over the beat. Maybe the kick
> > slightly ahead, snare a little behind, etc.
> > Gary
>
>Try this. On an MPC (or any external drum sequencer) and pick a sound
>like hi hat or rim shot and do a one bar pattern with the sound playing
>EVERY 16th note. You will have a one bar pattern with 16 hits in it.
>Cable midi out from device to midi in  Logic and record the midi notes
>into logic using the sending device's midi clock as master. Record 4
>bars into Logic so the midi clock stabilises. In Logic, cut the 4th bar
>so you have a one bar region in Logic with 16 notes in it. Do NOT
>quantise it. Select this region and invoke "make midi Groove Template".
>
>You now have made an exact copy of the MPC's groove to apply to midi
>tracks within Logic. Go back and repeat this process each time changing
>the quantise in the MPC to different swing values etc. and you can
>build up a whole groove template library in logic mimicking the feel
>characteristics of any device.
>
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>Paul Najar
>Jaminajar Music Production
>www.jaminajar.com

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On Oct 28, 2004, at 5:09 PM, Jojje Christ wrote:

>
> Thanks for all the help!really appreciate it! Especially your tip there
> Paul! Is it true that people buy an mpc just because of its groove or 
> feel!
> isnt there any other reason? Because if groove templates is something 
> you
> can import into logic and someone puts the template on the internet for
> downloading , then it would seem pretty unessecary to buy an mpc for 
> 1000$!!
>
> regards
>
> george

You know you guys could just save yourself alot of trouble and download 
the MPC Groove Templates from the yahoo Logic Users Group. If youre on 
this list might as well join that one too hehe..  :)

---
Chris

http://www.descentrecords.com