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Re: Steiny D - Sampled Steinway D for EXS24 out now!

2005-03-15 by Thomas Peitzmann

At 14:24 Uhr +0000 15.03.2005, <nicolas@...> wrote:
>How can you say that it is sampled with 8 level of velocity!!!
>Have you ever tried to play 8 level of different velocity with accuracy and
>consistancy on a piano for real?
>All these piano with 8 level of velocity are scam. they are sampled with 2
>or worse only 1 level of velocity and everything is done with Wavelabs or
>Soundforge. Some maybe have 4 REAL level of velocity but no more.
>Just listen one of these piano sample at the maximum level of velocity, like
>the Post ones, and you will see that it is just a medium that is louder and
>brighter. It lacks of the metallic sound of the stings when they are
>triggered hardly.
>Also when you record the lowest level of velocity, you MUST have noise. Just
>because the piano do not play loud enought and even in the best conditions,
>with the best microphones, in the best studio, if you play a piano at an
>equivalent of 30 of velocity, and you maximize the result, you will have ...
>white noise.
>When you listen all these piano's lowest level of velocity, they just sounds
>like a medium passed thru a low pass filter.
>
>That's my advice...

I don't know what SampleTekk does, but there are sample recordings 
which can reproduce so many velocity levels. A quote from Michiel 
Posts pages (http://www.postpiano.com):

The recorded piano was equipped with an advanced computer operated 
playback mechanism that was designed by mathematician, scientist and 
inventor Wayne Stahnke. The mechanism actually operates the piano 
keys and pedals with over 1.000 steps accuracy for inverse hammer 
velocity. The Stancke computer system enabled Amsterdam based sample 
library producer Michiel Post to capture each velocity layer for this 
library with absolute velocity levels. These levels guarantee a 
totally even response across the whole keyboard for all velocities.

I'm not affiliated with Post Musical Instruments, I'd just thought 
this may be relevant here...

Thomas

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