EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Is the best way to go about loading these samples to create a new instrument and assign each individual sample to a zone?  Every sample comes in one note..so perhaps there is a way to manipulate teh sample to play 
different pitches/notes?  

I am trying to learn how to create instruments from WAVs/AIFS...and im having a hard time trying to learn it on my own
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The Steiny D is a specially designed concert grand that uses samples
from the Black Grand session. The sampleset has been taken down in size
to make it downloadable.
The Steiny D has 8/8/8 velocity layers, 8 samples recorded pedal up, 8
pedal down and 8 releasesamples per recorded note.
The instrument used for the Steiny D was a Steinway D Hamburg concert
grand.

The Steiny D are now available in Kontakt/HALion/EXE24 format (Giga3
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www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/SteinyD/SteinyDDemo1.mp3 Steiny D Demo 1 -
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www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/SteinyD/SteinyDDemo2.mp3 Steiny D Demo 2 -
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www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/SteinyD/SteinyDDemo3.mp3 Steiny D Demo 3 -
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If you agree that the sampled pianos sound like 2 (or at best 4) levels  
of velocity, you may want to listen to the PMI "Old Lady" Steinway D.   
This demo clearly has more than 4 velocity levels sampled.  I've been  
very happy with it for the last month:

Debussy
http://www.postpiano.com/products/demos/Old/ 
Images%20OLD%20LADY%20Baisc.mp3

- Paul Smith

>

> Message: 5
>    Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:07:02 +0100
>    From: <nicolas@...>
> Subject: Re: Steiny D - Sampled Steinway D for EXS24 out now!
>
>
>> SampleTekk is proud to present yet another fine piano available as a
>> DirectDownload.
>> That means that you buy the Piano, and then instantly get a link from
>> where you can download your samples.
>> Beats UPS and Fedex but requires a fast line....
>>
>>
>> The Steiny D is a specially designed concert grand that uses samples
>> from the Black Grand session. The sampleset has been taken down in  
>> size
>> to make it downloadable.
>> The Steiny D has 8/8/8 velocity layers, 8 samples recorded pedal up, 8
>> pedal down and 8 releasesamples per recorded note.
>> The instrument used for the Steiny D was a Steinway D Hamburg concert
>> grand.
>>
>>
> How can you say that it is sampled with 8 level of velocity!!!
> Have you ever tried to play 8 level of different velocity with  
> accuracy and
> consistancy on a piano for real?
> All these piano with 8 level of velocity are scam. they are sampled  
> with 2
> or worse only 1 level of velocity and everything is done with Wavelabs  
> or
> Soundforge. Some maybe have 4 REAL level of velocity but no more.
> Just listen one of these piano sample at the maximum level of  
> velocity, like
> the Post ones, and you will see that it is just a medium that is  
> louder and
> brighter. It lacks of the metallic sound of the stings when they are
> triggered hardly.
> Also when you record the lowest level of velocity, you MUST have  
> noise. Just
> because the piano do not play loud enought and even in the best  
> conditions,
> with the best microphones, in the best studio, if you play a piano at  
> an
> equivalent of 30 of velocity, and you maximize the result, you will  
> have ...
> white noise.
> When you listen all these piano's lowest level of velocity, they just  
> sounds
> like a medium passed thru a low pass filter.
>
> That's my advice...
>
>

> If you agree that the sampled pianos sound like 2 (or at best 4) levels
> of velocity, you may want to listen to the PMI "Old Lady" Steinway D.
> This demo clearly has more than 4 velocity levels sampled.  I've been
> very happy with it for the last month:
> 
> Debussy
> http://www.postpiano.com/products/demos/Old/
> Images%20OLD%20LADY%20Baisc.mp3
> 
> - Paul Smith


PMI also have great pianos but again..... Steiny D has 8/8/8 TRUE UNIQUE
velocity samples (our pianos Black Grand and White Grand has 16....)

Per Larsson
SampleTekk

At 14:24 Uhr +0000 15.03.2005, <nicolas@...> wrote:
>How can you say that it is sampled with 8 level of velocity!!!
>Have you ever tried to play 8 level of different velocity with accuracy and
>consistancy on a piano for real?
>All these piano with 8 level of velocity are scam. they are sampled with 2
>or worse only 1 level of velocity and everything is done with Wavelabs or
>Soundforge. Some maybe have 4 REAL level of velocity but no more.
>Just listen one of these piano sample at the maximum level of velocity, like
>the Post ones, and you will see that it is just a medium that is louder and
>brighter. It lacks of the metallic sound of the stings when they are
>triggered hardly.
>Also when you record the lowest level of velocity, you MUST have noise. Just
>because the piano do not play loud enought and even in the best conditions,
>with the best microphones, in the best studio, if you play a piano at an
>equivalent of 30 of velocity, and you maximize the result, you will have ...
>white noise.
>When you listen all these piano's lowest level of velocity, they just sounds
>like a medium passed thru a low pass filter.
>
>That's my advice...

I don't know what SampleTekk does, but there are sample recordings 
which can reproduce so many velocity levels. A quote from Michiel 
Posts pages (http://www.postpiano.com):

The recorded piano was equipped with an advanced computer operated 
playback mechanism that was designed by mathematician, scientist and 
inventor Wayne Stahnke. The mechanism actually operates the piano 
keys and pedals with over 1.000 steps accuracy for inverse hammer 
velocity. The Stancke computer system enabled Amsterdam based sample 
library producer Michiel Post to capture each velocity layer for this 
library with absolute velocity levels. These levels guarantee a 
totally even response across the whole keyboard for all velocities.

I'm not affiliated with Post Musical Instruments, I'd just thought 
this may be relevant here...

Thomas

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--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Kim" <xxkevinkimxx@e...> wrote:
> 
> Is the best way to go about loading these samples to create a new instrument and 
assign each individual sample to a zone?  Every sample comes in one note..so perhaps 
there is a way to manipulate teh sample to play 
> different pitches/notes?  
> 
> I am trying to learn how to create instruments from WAVs/AIFS...and im having a hard 
time trying to learn it on my own
> --

Almost right. Create a new instrument, then create a zone and assign
one of the samples to it. That's it! Now it plays different pitches all
up and down the keyboard. You can Rename your new instrument,
Close and move on to create another one with a different sample.

Sonny Keyes
SKa Music
Toronto

www.skamusic.ca