EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe Albano <joea@n...> wrote:
> Oops, you're right it doesn't!!!

Good stuff :)

> (Incidentally, the clicking seems to result when the 
> first closed hh zone is "live" and the 2nd is the "null" zone - 
> reverse this, and the closed hats seem to play normally, they just 
> don't cut off the open).. 

Yep, that's because it's the null zone that is 'clicking' due to lack of voices, you just can't 
hear it.

> crossfading), so I don't know if I had some additional tweak I'm not 
> thinking of now, or if Logic/EXS just changed this functionality at 
> some point along the way..

Certainly this way it doesn't work in 5.5.1 - dunno about earlier....

> Hmm.. Triggering extra notes on the keyboard definitely *does* work 
> here, and so does generating the extra notes via Environment 
> Transformers (Copy Matching Events, Apply Operation) - I just tested 
> it with a 3-note hihat patch (as described by Dave in his post) and 
> it works fine. Here's the setup..

I will try that when I feel strong enough :)

You certainly seen to have been round the houses when it comes to drums/hi-hat setsup 
with Logic - phew!

> Aha, sounds like you've already hit on the cc-based approach.. 

Yes, and it seems to work well - even better in fact than having a closed hat cut off the 
open hat, as on a real hat it's *only* closing the pedal that chokes an open hat anyway.

> If you 
> have samples of various degrees of hh-"openness", all from the same 
> hat, you can map the foot control to sweep between them using Groups 
> or separate EXS instances for greater programming control. 

Yes, that is the next thing to try really, it's all about finding a playable setup. At the 
moment I'm playing a tweaking and geting used to everything and getting the feel right...

> Watch out, in Logic 7.1 (I think) they changed the Group 
> functionality to accommodate some GarageBand programs(!), and now 
> using cc4 to crossfade EXS Groups changes the functionality of 
> (remaps) pitchbend & modwheel cc's! I mention this because I seem to 
> remember that V-Drum uses cc4 for the hihat pedal - you might want to 
> remap this to some other cc (1?), and avoid using cc4 in your EXS 
> Group crossfade setups..

Thanks for the heads up - I am indeed using #4 at the moment. I paid for 7.1 on release 
and it was mis-delivered, so goodness knows when I'm finally going to get my update :(

> I'm still tweaking my own EXS hihats (I'm just finishing porting my 
> drum kits over from Kurzweil) so if I come up with any interesting 
> tweaks, or run into any other weird behavior or changes in 
> functionality (!) I'll post..

Please do, I appreciate your knowledge and experience Joe...

Many thanks,