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Re: [EXS] Re: EXS24 Hihat Group Problem - A Solution?

2005-08-10 by Hollow Sun

To clarify the mono/poly argument in an ASCIIMATIC.....

MONO

  |\  |\  |\
  | \ | \ | \
  |  \|  \|  \
  |           \

I.e. 'machine gun' triggering

This was how it was implemented on S1000, Make up drum kit but separately
create a mono hi-hat program for open/closed mutual exclusivity. Primitive
and not good (but acceptable in *1986*)!

POLY/MUTE GROUP

  |\  |\  |\
  | \ | \ | \
  |  \|  \|  \
  |   \   \   \

More 'natural' triggering

This is the implementation in S3000 and beyond - each individual strike is
polyphonic but hitting another sample in the mute group cuts (chokes) the
other:

  Closed---->Open->
  |\  |\  |\ |\
  | \ | \ | \| \
  |  \|  \|     \
  |   \   \      \

And achieving this is s-o-o-o simple in the UI!

> When I requested this to be changed during the DR-008 beta test it took Angus
> like half an hour to implement it into the sampler
Yes - I am no programer but this isn't rocket science. It was a similar
experience when I suggested the same to Akai back in whenever. A while later
it was like "Try this" and it just worked and has been so ever since!

> When I requested this to be changed in the EXS it took like, hm... 5(?) years
> and still hasn't been implemented. And no, it's nothing esoteric or whatever,
> it's just how every sampler should work
Well... quite. This is fundamental stuff and I am astonished that a sampler
with the EXS's pedigree is so lacking.

> Should be something VERY easy to adress, yet most sampler developers
> simply don't care.
That's what kinda bugs me with s/w sampler developers - they are all dead
keen to introduce fancy new filters and multi-stage envelope and formant
mangling functions, etc. (coz they can), but they ignore the basics.

But maybe that's just me.


Best regards,


Steve
http://www.hollowsun.com

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