EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Paul Najar wrote:
> I see your point but why do you find that unrealistic? One open hat
> cuts of the next open hat as played by a real drummer.

No, it doesn't. Think about a cymbal (which an opened hihat is). When you hit it, it'll just continue ringing when you hit it again.
The effect is geting even more drastic when using lots of dynamics. Thing swing cymbal stuff. There's usually a continuous pattern
going on with a few accents here and there. It's sounding highly unnatural when the low leveled hits are cutting off the accented
ones. Just the same applies to hihats.

> Would you like
> the option of having the open hat not cut off the next open hat?

Yes please.
Here's a very lame sorta rock drum pattern, 4 bars are using a polyphonic opened hat (DR-008/AKAI style), the next 4 bars are using
a monophonic one (EXS style). Pretty much a common 8th note pattern with varying amounts of accents on the full beats.
Mind you, this is no multimapped sample, the hat is also too loud, but it demostrates the issue quite properly, I think:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/temp/OpenHats.mp3
The last 4 bars just sound horrible.

>  If
> your answer is yes then simply assign the same sample to another note
> number and different or no group and you're done. It would take me
> about 4 seconds to do that.

It's not as easy with multimapped samples, plus, if you'd used something like a drum trigger thingy, you certainly wouldn't want
your open hats to be on different keys. I also don't like it when editing MIDI drums, but I do so occassionally anyways, simply
because on a keyboard they are more comfortable to record.
Still, even with 2 keys for your hats, the third stroke wouild cut stoke 1 off, which might still be ringing.

Seriously, the only solution to this problem would be having exclusive groups being polyphonic.

Regards,
Sascha