EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

On 25/08/2005, at 2:58 PM, Hans Hafner wrote:

> At 10:14 Uhr +1000 25.08.2005, Paul Najar wrote:
>> I can't hear a difference between the two patterns. Tell me what you
>> think? <http://www.jaminajar.com/EXS/exs_hat_test.mp3>
>
> I have the feeling that first of all the HiHat sound you're using is
> completely different and you're setting the ear up to expect exactly
> what is there. A pattern going:
>
> open eighth - closed eighth

This could be a clue. The pattern I played is all the same note number 
- the open hat playing eighth notes at varying velocities.

> with the open HiHat not sounding quite as long. If you had programmed
> a couple of quarter notes in there like in Saschas example it would
> become much more apparent because then we could hear the complete
> open HiHat sound and know when it doesn't complete it's playtime.

OK. I'll do the same test but put some quarter notes in the pattern.

> Your example does indeed not exhibit what Saschas example showed and
> I agree, you managed to get a workaround by setting up the pattern
> differently.

Are you saying that the pattern is different or the way I've set up the 
mono and poly hat groups? If it's the latter then this is what my hunch 
(unproven) has had me wondering all along - that the voice handling of 
a EXS mono group within one instrument is different to the voice 
handling setting the whole EXS voice number to 1.

> But that is not the point. Logic shouldn't dictate the way we have to
> program music. And that is the problem we're talking about.

I don't dispute what you guys are saying, I'm having difficulty 
duplicating your behaviour.

> But it doesn't sound like a "real" played HiHat pattern would sound
> whereas Saschas does sound more like that. And that is the reason why
> the EXS does in fact need improvement here.
>
> I'm going to again write a request on the godforsaken feedback page
> that no one knows if it's actually going to be read.

Give us 15 minutes to put up that other example.

> PS: I hate talking about music. It's so much more complicated then
> let's say talking about sports. :-)

So true! Email makes this kind of conversation harder...


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Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com