EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

>> On 20.11.2005, at 23:25, Don Newmeyer wrote:
>> I think the problem is not within the sampler, but rather how you
>> use the
>> instruments in the mix. If two instruments are playing exactly the
>> same
>> audio files,...
> 

Peter wrote:
> No problem if each single instrument has it's own sample, which can
> be achieved with ExsManager if you use the "expand" option. Then you
> get a complete set of samples for each instrument. You need much more
> RAM and disc space of course.
> 

That's what I said: the problem is not with EXS but how you use the
instruments in a mix.


>> I noticed this problem using two patches from the Garritan Orchestral
>> Strings, for example. If I had two tracks in the Arrange page with
>> identical
>> sequences, one with an All Violins legato patch and the other with
>> the first
>> violin legato...
> 
> I don't remember an "all violins" setting right now but if you used
> all violins at once, let's say violin 1+2+3 and added violin #2 a
> second time that is the situation which the manual describes as "must
> not". The ensemble settings are for that. I find their sound a bit
> strange but since people make so wonderful tracks with GPO it must be
> a matter of usage.

My example was from the Garritan Orchestral Strings (GOS) library, not GPO.
The "All Violins" patch really includes the samples from both the first and
second violin sections.

I've never really understood how they get the ensemble building approach in
GPO to work (and it seems to, at least in the examples they give), because
in my experience mixing multiple tracks of solo instruments does not give
the same sound as a sampled orchestral section. Perhaps the only way to do
it properly would be to set up all the chairs and have the players sit at
different chairs for each recording while leaving the mics fixed. I don't
think close miking each take from the same distance would give a realistic
section sound. 

Don