EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

At 03:32 PM 7/14/01 +0000, you wrote (edited):

>converting many of my roland libraries to EXS format. I just tried a Hans 
>Zimmer guitars vol 1 disc.  conversion process itself went fine.  I now 
>have the converted one right up against the S760.  The listening 
>comparison is horrible.  The converted file is considerably more dull and 
>flat sounding, while the original is much more open sounding (i'm 
>monitoring the EXS digitally into a Mackie D8B via an 888, the S760 is 
>going analog into the D8B).

I can vouch for the samples - they are basically correct. They didn't sound 
remarkably different here.

>Also i'm noticing an audible click at the beginning of each keystroke 
>right at the top of the sound starting - almost like a non-zero cross 
>point butt splice sound.

The EXS (and other software samplers) are much better responders to 
wavedata than the old Roland, so non-zero errant data will be heard on the 
EXS and not heard on the Roland. The solution is to put a small envelope at 
the beginning of every sample, but I know the translation engineers are 
somewhat reluctant to put that on because then percussive sounds suffer, or 
at the very least lose the opportunity to be that much "poppier".

>The sustain and decay times are different too.  The
>original S760 sample decays out while holding the keys down.  the EXS
>version just continuously loops without decaying.  I thought [it] was 
>supposed to translate all parameters?

It's difficult to translate to the EXS because the cool parameters are on 
the global level, not the Zones or Groups. (Shoot, why isn't that on the 
poll? Or was it?) So a program has to average these things, and as far as I 
know, none do.

>the latency when playing notes from these converted files are also
>much greater than with the supplied samples or imported AKAI samples
>direct into the EXS.

Can't explain that one.

>HELP.  Am i missing a setting or something?  I'm a newbie to al of
>this sample library conversion stuff.  I didn't

It's not "near-perfect" (yet).

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User