EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

At 10:32 AM 8/31/01 -0400, you wrote:

>ADSR in the EXS24 is global. There is no per-sample ADSR, a major downer,
>indeed. You'll have to edit your sample in an editor and reimport them, or
>go back to your AKAI. There are definite tradeoffs with this technology.

This is correct, sort of - in the Groups, there is a "override" for the 
amplitude ADSR, which offers bipolar (positive and negative) adjustments to 
the envelope segments. Put a group on every zone and you have zone level 
amplitude envelopes.

>I wonder if Halion does ADSR per-sample...

Don't want to be gleeful about HALion here, but it definitely does, with 
8-stage envelopes, where you can specify how many stages the envelope is to 
have for ease of use.

HALion has raised the bar, and I would fully expect Emagic to respond.

Regarding the original question:

>I've used akai samplers for years and the amp envelope is ADSR with values
>0-99 it is childsplay to use. And I always like to sharpen drum samples with
>decay etc.
>I can't work out how to set individual decays with the exs. The 50% up and
>down thing doesn't seem to be able to set an individual group to zero
>sustain and changeable decay.

Are you referring to the group adjustment or the global parameters? As you 
can see, if you have the Sustain in the globals to 100%, you can adjust it 
down 50%, thus you can't jam it down to 0unless you change the globals to 
50%. If you think this is counter-intuitive, I'd agree completely.

>I also don't like the ms decay setting. It starts from zero decay and then
>opens up sloowly. All I want is a simple akai style decay that starts from
>fully open. Starting from zero decay makes no sense to me.
>Am I just using it wrong?

Yeah, in between the lines I sense you are just looking at the Group 
screen, which is an adjustment of the globals. Look at the spaceship, which 
has most of the globals on it. If you want to see all the globals, look at 
the blue editor.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User