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Re: [exs] could a 'user' of EXS24 and Akai S5000/S6000 advice on decision?

2001-12-13 by resomania

David,
thanks for the feedback.  any possibility of anyone sending me 
some screen shots of the EXS24's primary windows?

Paul


--- In exs-users@y..., David Tobin <wowandflutter@t...> wrote:
> > David,
> > could you expand on the pros and cons of the S6000 versus 
the
> > EXS24?  with respect to creating keygroups or zones, setting 
up
> > patches, assigning outputs to individual sounds, etc.  any
> > feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Paul, here is my reasoning:
> 
> IMHO, creating zones and keygroups is a big pain in whichever 
sampler you do
> it in, but I don't personally find it any easier or harder on either
> machine.
> 
> Moving rootnotes of zones and the placement of the zone is 
easier in the
> S6000, but if you learn to use the key commands properly for 
the EXS, it is
> no major hassle.
> 
> The output assignment is a big EXS drawback for some, but 
this will be
> addressed within a couple of months so I don't see this as a 
sticking point,
> particularly as I have just managed to do an enormous full 
orchestral
> arrangement using solely EXS24's and just keep using extra 
ones when I want
> extra mixing flexibility, although this does depend on the speed 
of your
> computer.
> 
> The biggest advantages to the EXS are these:
> 
> 1: Once discs are imported, the loading and saving of sounds 
is relatively
> immediate.
> 
> I have often taken 7 or 8 minutes to load a full songs worth of 
samples into
> my S6000 and this became a big deal.
> 
> 2. Backing up samples.  Although with Aksys you can get 
samples to the
> computer, it is a real pain and It has been really refreshing to 
just save
> everything to my data dat system directly.
> 
> 3. Use of VST or TDM plug-ins directly on the samples.
> 
> You can use effects much more easily with the EXS and by 
adding FX at the
> output end (if you have enough room) you can use TDM FX if 
you are running
> that system - As I am.
> 
> 4.  Sample finding.
> 
> In the Akai, there is no real way to create a large sample 
database and use
> a find function, but this is integral In the EXS and I use it on a 
daily
> basis.
> 
> 5. Sample editing.
> 
> It is just so much easier to edit samples in a DAW compared 
to inside the
> sampler - You can bounce FX to the samples if necessary and 
generally it
> allows more flexibility. This is also possible with the S6000, 
but requires
> Aksys, which means having a couple of programs open and 
switching, and just
> never really felt comfortable for me.
> 
> There are gripes with both systems - I really want to be able to 
timestretch
> a whole program and it's associated samples, which neither 
system will do;
> The EXS has limited outputs for the moment, but the Akai has 
terrible FX.
> All in all, the main thing for me is how it feels to use and all I 
can say
> is I have both systems in front of me, and for the work that I do I 
never
> use the S6000 at the moment unless I have such a huge 
arrangement that I
> need massive amounts of sampling.
> 
> Hope all this helps
> 
> 
> David T

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