EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Alvaro, you very well may see people all over the world doing all sorts of
things, however if any of those things are not legal, I would encourage you to
better inform yourself and not take part in it.  The trading of samples CD's
not being legal is no new news.  This has been the case for a very long time.
But more important than that is the inherent respect due to those who spend
endless hours creating the very sounds that make up what is the bulk of music
today.  Many composers and producers would be rendered literally mute were it
not for indispensable artists like Eric Persing who toil for months on end to
bring us the most realistic and cutting edge sounds in a small package for much
less money and time that it would take us to do it ourselves.

Another thing to consider when trading discs is the sheer cost of developing
the library, especially if it is an acoustic library such as a choir or
orchestra set.  The developer must hire an orchestra, place the players in a
rented hall, hire an engineer and rent the equipment to capture the
performance, then hire programmers to port the finished samples to the many
available formats.  This requires money.  Money that the developer will not
recoup if people trade the library "all over the world" as you put it.

To this end, I am happy to purchase the libraries I use to support brilliant
people in the field like Eric Persing who have given us the most imaginative
and inspiring palettes.  I suggest you do the same.  Now I'm going to open my
Quantum Leap Voices of the Apocalypse set that just showed up.  Which I
bought.  Not traded.

Just a thought...

Kaveh Cohen
Supporter of Sample Developers and Spectrasonics Disciple

Alvaro Villalobos wrote:

> Hello Spectrasonics!
>
> Ok then I know!!
>
> I was sure I could buy a Sample CD and sell it if I wanted I didn\ufffdt know I
> had to die with the Sample Cd in my grave!
>
> So what happens if let\ufffds say I bought a CD and want to sell it I can\ufffdt do
> this either??
>
> Or if the worst thing happens for example It gets stolen or I die and
> someone keeps the Sample CD will someone sue my mum and dad????
>
> It seems like you third part developers have big problems then because I\ufffdve
> seen people all over the world trading CD\ufffds and what about all the Mp 3\ufffds
> with samples from Sample Cd\ufffds wich are trade with all the different look a
> like Napster programs aren\ufffdt all those people about 100 million people
> trading sounds and samples illegally??
>
> Sometimes it gets very difficult to know If it\ufffds legal or not at least
> people in the west with internet are not always following the rules and if
> those 100 millions are doing soemthing illegal why aren\ufffdt there people suing
> them are they to many to handle???
>
> Well Spectrasonics please send me a link with laws because it seems a hell
> of a lot easier to get hold of Cd\ufffds than knowing the law!
>
> Merry Xmas,
>
> Alvaro.
>
> >From: PersingEP@...
> >Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> >To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [exs] EXS 24 sample Cd\ufffds for swop!
> >Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:31:33 EST
> >
> >Hi Alvaro,
> >
> >We are a third party developer and you need to know that this is definitely
> >against the law to swap or resell sample libraries. Basically it works this
> >way:
> >
> >The purchase price of a sample library is a single user license to use the
> >samples to use in their music. The license allows the customer to use the
> >samples (our recordings) in their musical recordings. Anyone who hasn't
> >purchased the disc, doesn't have a license to use the sounds and is then
> >using the samples illegally. This risks legal action being taken against
> >both
> >them and their clients....not a good thing at all.
> >
> >The confusion for most people arises because people don't quite grasp that
> >what you are purchasing isn't the phisical disc, as much as the legal right
> >to use the samples.
> >
> >If you would like to research this issue more, I would encourage you to
> >read
> >the Sound Recording Copyright Act, which is much more "black and white"
> >than
> >most people realize.
> >
> >Hope that helps clarify the issue, and why what you are suggesting could
> >get
> >you and anyone else involved in this into a lot of trouble....it's best all
> >the way around to avoid this.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Eric Persing
> >Creative Director
> >Spectrasonics
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 12/18/01 2:05:51 AM, logicuser2001@... writes:
> >
> > >I\ufffdm not to sure I\ufffdve already email you but why do you care??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Not any third part developers have contacted me and you seem more
> >concerned
> > >
> > >
> > >than them how come??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Anyway whatever I buy I can trade so there is nothing illegal about
> > >
> > >exchanging something I bought if there is a law saying this is illegal
> > >just
> > >
> > >let me know!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Merry Xmas,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Alvaro.
>
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