EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

> Fernando Vicente wrote:
>> Say you bought a loops CD Rom like Spectrasonics' new Backbeat.  According
>> to how you see it, you could take one of the loops on it, put it on a
> loops
>> CD Rom that you create (actually more like compile rather than create) and
>> sell that.  Definitely illegal.
> 
> I don't think that's what he meant.
> I guess if I buy a CD it's perfectly OK to sell it - of course assuming I
> don't use the CDs content. As that (not using the CDs content at all) is
> pretty much unlikely, especially in these days where people are using
> softsamplers and large HDs, I'd expect nobody to kill all the samples from
> the HD before selling the CD - so yes, there may arise problems in any case.
> 
>> This past summer I bought the Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Strings library from
>> Ilio.  A lot of programming went into it but, never mind the programming -
>> think about just the recording of the samples.  They had to hire a string
>> orchestra (some samples involve 24 violins!) and all of the musicians, not
>> to mention the orchestra hall to record it in, the engineers to do the
>> recording, etc.  I'm sure that it cost them thousands of dollars per day
>> just to record the samples.  At a price of $999, you're getting a deal.
> My
>> opinion is just like if you want a Lexicon 960 or an Avalon mastering
>> compressor - if you can't afford it, you don't need it.
> 
> Very good point!
> 
> But unfortunately there's the opposite as well.
> I have a bunch of "Ueberschall" CDs that I didn't have to pay for (jfyi,
> they are legit CDs though and they are really *mine*) and, to say the least,
> the content is rather lousy. I might eventually find myself using one loop
> or two in years. I even know some drummer being involved in some CD
> recordings for them, and I must say, the amount of work they invested is in
> no way related to the amount of money they try to charge for the CDs.
> Unfortunately this is true for many "standard" loop CDs, people are just
> putting *something* together.
> And then, while you can preview a sample CD in good shops, there's no such
> options when buying things online. A good example might be the Neil Conti CD
> from Emagicsamples.com. While the RA demofiles you can listen to certainly
> aren't bad, overall the CD offers rather low content. Good grooves but not
> exactly much variations.
> Unfortunately the same is also true for some instruments CDs.
> Recently I have been looking for some horns CD and I've been listening to
> "Psychic Horns" at a friends studio. What a dissapointment. All over the CD
> there's not a single patch you could use for a bit longer sustained chord
> (how lame is that?). What you get a lot is licks and stuff like that -
> pretty much unusable if you are into arranging your own stuff. Their demo
> (which I listened to as well) however sounded pretty impressive, but well,
> they were using licks rather than individual sounds all the time (so
> changing tonalities is no option at all). I'd almost call that cheating the
> consumer.
> 
> I do agree however that sampling an orchestra really is some incredibly huge
> work and that those CDs (if done properly) are well worth their money (still
> cheaper than hiring even a string quartet for one single session).
> 
> After all, in the future I will try to basically only do my own samples. I
> hope that in the next half year I will for example have some time to sample
> some real horns in a proper studio. If I will ever succeed in doing so I
> will upload the EXS patches somewhere to make them available for everybody.
> Free of charge of course (but hey, don't take my word on that, I may not
> find the time and/or I may get greedy all of a sudden :-).


Hey Sascha,

Maybe we could have a group purchase of a studio and a set of horn players,
and share all the sounds together via rocket!!!!!!!!


David Tobin

Wow and Flutter music - Arranging, technology, general wellbeing.....