EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi Roman and all

This is a most interesting thread and kept on a very civilized level. 

--- In exs-users@y..., roman pirie <romanp@x> wrote:
> Why don't samplers loaded with cdroms sound any good?
Here is an attempt to answer this question. It sounds to me as if too 
many sample CDROM programmers are occupied with comparing the samples 
to the original recordings they have spent huge amounts of effort 
recording. Therefore playability isn't their top priority. Whereas 
the synth module programmers don't care how true their presets are to 
any given sound source. They go for something that plays darned well, 
at least the good ones. Furthermore they have one or several digital 
effects that become part of each preset whereas you receive the 
sample CDROM's as pure as they can get and therefore you have to 
spent time and effort adding the effect dimension yourself. Doesn't 
this make just a bit sense?

On a different note sample CDROMs come in many flavours. The ones you 
critisize are just one kind, the ones that emulate a real instrument 
(let's call an analog synth that as well, okay?). What about Eric 
Persings weird rhythmic soundscapes and his Groove Control? What 
about loop CDROMs and construction kits? 

To conclude I tend to agree with you that sample CDROMs that attempt 
to sound like a "real" instrument are often unrewarding when played 
from a keyboard and the above is my feeble attempt to try and explain 
why that could be. When that is said I have experience several sample 
CDROMs of real instruments that I have enjoyed playing better than 
the comparable presets in my JV1010 and my Ensoniq MR61. 

Examples: Several CDROMs with recorded drumkits one of which is 
Groove Masters' played my Danish drummer Mads Michelsen. Groove 
Masters' bass guitar CDROM played by Danish bass player Jon Bruland. 
The Prosamples Steinway Grand Piano 128MB or 256MB definitely sounds 
and plays better than any of the pianos in my synth modules. And 
finally Xtreme Analog is simply amazing as an analogish synth library.

Kind regards,

Soren Riis-Vestergaard